DCS shared weapons between modules

[104th_Crunch]

How will missiles, and other weapons work in different DCS modules. For example, if a F16 and a F18 are created by 2 different third party companies, and they both use the AIM-120C, will they both share the same simulation model of that missile?

 

Also, we know that a2a missile modelling in FC2 is not at the same level of detail as DCS AFM for aircraft. How is it third party devs will release aircraft with a2a missiles? Will they just use the current level of missile modelling in FC2?

 

Thanks for any insight.

[PeterP]

IHMO. Third-party developers should develop planes/modules ... short: vehicles. I don't care if it is flying or not... - ED/TFC should develop the world+planes and everything ...

- this also includes the weapons that are used in this world -

Further: and I think that ED is aware of this and will sure have a sharp eye at this things when you need to set new "standards" about missiles and projectiles .

Edited June 21, 2012 by PeterP
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[Nate--IRL--]

How will missiles, and other weapons work in different DCS modules. For example, if a F16 and a F18 are created by 2 different third party companies, and they both use the AIM-120C, will they both share the same simulation model of that missile?

 

Also, we know that a2a missile modelling in FC2 is not at the same level of detail as DCS AFM for aircraft. How is it third party devs will release aircraft with a2a missiles? Will they just use the current level of missile modelling in FC2?

 

Thanks for any insight.

 

Weapons will be handled by DCS:-World, any module will use what DCS:-World has.

 

EDIT:- That is not to say the weapons in DCS world will not be expanded. But they will use the DCS world modelling.

 

Nate

[luza]

good question.

 

And a fine answer ;)

[104th_Crunch]

Thanks Nate!

 

Now, I guess A2A weapon modelling in 3rd party modules will be as it is currently in FC2? I understand if this is a WIP and you can't really give more info on this.

 

So looking forward to all the DCS goodness in the works!

[joey45]

But when weapons that are not in the DCS: World what would happen then..?

[Nate--IRL--]

But when weapons that are not in the DCS: World what would happen then..?

 

They are either put in or left out.

 

Nate

[Nate--IRL--]

Thanks Nate!

 

Now, I guess A2A weapon modelling in 3rd party modules will be as it is currently in FC2? I understand if this is a WIP and you can't really give more info on this.

 

So looking forward to all the DCS goodness in the works!

 

It will be as it currently is in DCS.

 

Nate

[Grimes]

I would think if an aircraft can't change a weapon setting, then the setting will remain to default. Think of the CBU-87, an A-10C can change the weapon profile because it has the avionics to do so, other aircraft might lack this capability, so the CBU-87 would be locked into its default value.

[PeterP]

But when weapons that are not in the DCS: World what would happen then..?

uneducated guess:

The third-party developer will have a talk with ED/TFC about this.

 

edit:

maybe via e-mail or skype ... (... a phone-call is also an option...)

or even in a office or later at the bar...who knows ?!

 

But one thing is sure : There will be a communication. - otherwise it will make no sense.:)

Edited June 21, 2012 by PeterP

[Nate--IRL--]

I would think if an aircraft can't change a weapon setting, then the setting will remain to default. Think of the CBU-87, an A-10C can change the weapon profile because it has the avionics to do so, other aircraft might lack this capability, so the CBU-87 would be locked into its default value.

 

That's a good point I hadn't considered that. It would probably be set in a LUA somewhere instead of in the cockpit.

 

Nate

[sobek]

Well, the thing is that setting these parameters from the pit like it is done now is unrealistic (at least for HOF and RPM IIRC, the 97 ofcourse is a different beast altogether). Hopefully they will be set in the loadout menu one day.

[Grimes]

Someone in the know could probably correct me, but wouldn't the HOF and RPM on a CBU-87 be set on the ground to whatever might work best for the situation at hand if the pilot can't change it mid-air?

[joey45]

Flight planner maybe...

 

That's a good point I hadn't considered that. It would probably be set in a LUA somewhere instead of in the cockpit.

 

Nate

[Nate--IRL--]

Flight planner maybe...

 

That would make more sense.

 

Nate

[PeterP]

yes

A flight-planer for such things , that is integrated in your mission-planner

[Tailgate]

That is a cool concept, that all 3rd party air frames will share a global weapons library in DCSW.

[71st_Mastiff]

Weapons will be handled by DCS:-World, any module will use what DCS:-World has.

 

EDIT:- That is not to say the weapons in DCS world will not be expanded. But they will use the DCS world modelling.

 

Nate

 

thats exceptional good news NATO weapons. :thumbup:

 

So is the old iron bombs such as i.e MK82 LDGP's.

[Eihort]

I'd imagine if there's some weapon not in DCS:W that a 3rd party developer needs, there would be some sort of certification process ED would do to make sure it's up to snuff then stick it in a patch or something.

[Snoopy]

Someone in the know could probably correct me, but wouldn't the HOF and RPM on a CBU-87 be set on the ground to whatever might work best for the situation at hand if the pilot can't change it mid-air?

 

You're correct, that's set on the ground prior to takeoff. The pilot is then "stuck" with whatever setting was made before departing.

[Weltensegler]

uneducated guess:

The third-party developer will have a talk with ED/TFC about this.

 

edit:

maybe via e-mail or skype ... (... a phone-call is also an option...)

or even in a office or later at the bar...who knows ?!

 

But one thing is sure : There will be a communication. - otherwise it will make no sense.:)

 

Haha :) some beer at the soccer game? (oh no your post is older than the game, hehe)

 

Yeah I heard that a 3rd party developer AviaTex is talking to ED about 3 types of nuclear warheads.

Not sure if on the phone or if one of them took a bike over though.

Edited June 23, 2012 by Weltensegler

[PeterP]

no - no beer ;)

 

This is just what you would call a "Idiot-proof" reply (in some circles) on a question like this:

But when weapons that are not in the DCS: World what would happen then..?

 

It's not the question...

It's always the answer that makes the question sound dump.

:)

Edited June 23, 2012 by PeterP

[Weltensegler]

:) I know... got ya.

 

And btw to all people that actually thought about if the communication happens in an office or in a bar...I made that nuclear thingy thing up! :)