A-10C vs P-51D

Ramstein · July 20, 2012

A-10C vs P-51D, in a dogfight. I found the P-51D wins. It is faster, the A-10C has only one advantage, if the A-10C can find and lock the P-51D with the a-a rockets, and that is not easy to do....

I kept looking to find ways the A-10C would win, and the P-51D has many more advantages, and is much faster...

Try it ! - of course I flew the A-10C vs P-51D AI.

See how the fight comes out..

:joystick:

Razor5-1 · July 20, 2012

The P-51 was always going to win! :) . It may be a WW2 fighter but in it's day it was an air superiority fighter and the pinnacle of allied fighter design for a period!

A dogfighter versus a mud mover is only ending one way! Boom and Zoom leaves little for the A-10

But a lick of the GAU-8 and it's lights out.

Angbor · July 20, 2012

A friend and I decided to test this out for ourselves, he in the P-51 and myself in the A-10. And I can say that AIM-9s are a little overpowered for this kind of fight. But those aside I found myself being able to hold my own and get a few gun kills on him. The most awesome of which was both of us going head on, guns blazing and passed each other with feet to spare. I managed to disassemble his wing without taking any hits. It was funny because in his mirror he saw what looked like me getting hit, so over voice chat he gloated a little then realized he was missing a wing and a "oh nooooo" followed :lol:

He's still a little new to the airframe, so perhaps with more experience he'd school me. But even then I'll still have my missiles :)

WildBillKelsoe · July 20, 2012

no comparison, no comment :smartass:

Yo-Yo · July 20, 2012

A-10 has advantages in top speed and in climb at low altitudes. Disadvantages in turn radius.

Maybe experienced guns-only fighter can use it properly... I do not know.

P-51 has a winning tactics to avoid suicidal head-on attacks but a problem is that while looping P-51 is chasing A-10 at inner circle and the steady distance is not less than 0.4 nm (700 m) that is a little bit more than necessary to concentrate fire (the best range is 300-400 m) and high speed of the target requires under-the-cowling fire.

At high altitude (near critical altitude for high-gear blower) P-51 has advantages in climb almost equal-top speed and the same advantage in turn radius. A-10 has no chances.

BlueRidgeDx · July 20, 2012

Always looking at the science, and never the art...

Corrigan · July 20, 2012

For some of us, science is art. ;)

JCamel · July 20, 2012

It had a very good engine. Probably the greatest engine in history. Certainly the engine we owe the most to.

Ramstein · July 20, 2012

It had a very good engine. Probably the greatest engine in history. Certainly the engine we owe the most to.

just about all water cooled engines in war, are 'Glass Jaw' engines.. one Golden BB, and the plane is worthless.... :cry:

As long as you don't take a bullet in the cooling system... but when you do they really, really suck... take a bullet in an air cooled double wasp and you are probably going home in one piece..:pilotfly:

JCamel · July 20, 2012

just about all water cooled engines in war, are 'Glass Jaw' engines.. one Golden BB, and the plane is worthless.... :cry:

Hang him.

Tailgate · July 20, 2012

Be sure you give that AI P-51 max weight to alleviate the Super-AI bug.

Angbor · July 20, 2012

There is defiantly an art to air to air engagements. So far everyone is talking the science of the fight after the merge. But planes don't magically just show up right next to each other on equal ground. Let's not forget that the A-10 has both sidewinders and mavericks which impose a serious up hill climb for a P-51 to handle before he can merge and start the dogfight.

I played with a my friend a second time but this time had mavericks loaded up and they are a serious game changer. Popping one of those off at 4 - 7 kms either meant that I ended the fight before it began or started with a major altitude advantage and/or he was defensive with me on his tail. Not to mention shooting a sidewinder at first chance is a good way to get him to break early allowing you to follow on the offensive, if it doesn't just take em out. ;)

Of course, he still did manage to kill me a couple times. But he really had to work for it and I usually did something retarded, losing my advantage, causing it to happen.