tintifaxl Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 Some time ago Yo-Yo asked about flight/performance data for German planes and that they were difficult to come by. Has ED decided on if and what adversary plane will be included at release? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
Echo38 Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 If there is one, I'd wager that it'd be an Me-109. However, I don't recall anyone from Eagle Dynamics saying that there will be an A.I. enemy fighter included.
tintifaxl Posted September 19, 2012 Author Posted September 19, 2012 No, but Yo-Yo asked about data. Why would he do that, if not to provide an airtarget for the P-51? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
Double_D Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 If there is one, I'd wager that it'd be an Me-109. However, I don't recall anyone from Eagle Dynamics saying that there will be an A.I. enemy fighter included. I think there is something in the works..but mums the word..still its a blast flying the P-51D Mustang...:thumbup: [TABLE][/url][sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic89949_15.gif[/sIGPIC][/Table] Recruiting for Aerobatic Team/Fighter Group... My Youtube channel
VIMANAMAN Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 if memory serves me correctly in the simHQ interview with Wags there was the same Q. The answer was something along the lines of - we'll have to wait and see - like i said if memory serves... As wolf says that seems to be a good indication that 'something's in the works...' It's gotta be either a mid to late 109 or a 190 I guess. That would be sooooooo cool!
tintifaxl Posted September 21, 2012 Author Posted September 21, 2012 So I guess ED can't even tell if they have decided on anything. ;-) Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
Echo38 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 There was an Me-109 model on the ground in one of the dev videos, when the P-51 was taxiing. Doesn't equal a promise, but they're definitely thinking about it.
Simas Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 Seriously, a Bf 109 (even if it's late model) matched against P-51D? :) How about Fw 190 or even Me 262..
Echo38 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 What's wrong with the Me-109G vs. P-51D matchup?
Simas Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) What's wrong with the Me-109G vs. P-51D matchup? The missing 5 years of aviation progress. Edited September 21, 2012 by Simas
Echo38 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) As I understand it, if we're using factory performance, the 109 out-does the P-51 in some areas and the P-51 out-does the 109 in other areas. The actual one-sided-ness in the conflict came from a discrepancy in the quality of fuel, the state of maintenance, and so on. (And many P-51s were shot down by 109s, even so.) But, should we ever get DCS: ME 109G, it will doubtless be to factory standards and not simulated wartime conditions; that is, it surely wouldn't be modelled as being poorly-maintained and having sub-average fuel. Thus, in-sim, the two should be a fairly even match, overall. I would expect a "fresh" 109G to win more at lower altitudes and the P-51 to win more at higher altitudes; however, it has been nearly ten years since I did any serious research on Second World War fighters, so that assessment could be inaccurate. Edited September 21, 2012 by Echo38
nick10 Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 The missing 5 years of aviation progress. BF-109G was a very good aircraft. And the BF-109K was to be feared apparently. It was a lack of experienced pilots that saw the luftwaffe regularly flogged by the P-51D. But agree. Would like to see the FW-190D as the adversary. Or maybe a late model WW2 Japanese aircraft - given we seem to have the long range version of the P-51D that flew missions over Japan in 1945.
leafer Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 What's wrong with the Me-109G vs. P-51D matchup? In my opinion, not a thing. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
VIMANAMAN Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 My understanding is that IF there is an adversary for the pony, then it will be an unflyable AI only adversary. I mean I hope I'm wrong but that's all I've dared to hope for so far. My fav would be a 190 of some description but we'll see.
Echo38 Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Well, I wouldn't expect them to give us a full-blown Me-109 sim for free ...
TwoLate Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 Yes a 109 AI would be a nice bone thrown to us. It would make dogfighting a little more fun. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tintifaxl Posted September 23, 2012 Author Posted September 23, 2012 (edited) I do hope they give us a friendly bomber to protect and an enemy fighter and bomber to shoot down. And I wish ED would talk about it. I back 3 Kickstarter gaming projects by known companies and get swamped by dev notes and blogs about progress and planned features. I do understand there were issues in the past with community reactions to announcements, so I guess ED is twice shy. Edited September 23, 2012 by tintifaxl Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
OB1 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Just remembered when I fist saw this thread, took me a while rummaging through my stuff but I have in my possession extensive documentation of the following Fw 190 A-8 Bremen Fw 190 D-9 Bremen Ta 152 H Bau The documentation consists of hi resolution scans of the original factory manuals, construction drawings, engineering manuals and drawings.. Total of 2GB worth of docs. Pretty much everything you need to know to make your own A8 and D9 but only limited documentation on the Ta.. Sooo If they want my stash they can pm me...
Prophet Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Just remembered when I fist saw this thread, took me a while rummaging through my stuff but I have in my possession extensive documentation of the following Fw 190 A-8 Bremen Fw 190 D-9 Bremen Ta 152 H Bau The documentation consists of hi resolution scans of the original factory manuals, construction drawings, engineering manuals and drawings.. Total of 2GB worth of docs. Pretty much everything you need to know to make your own A8 and D9 but only limited documentation on the Ta.. Sooo If they want my stash they can pm me... Having an adversary might make the P51-D more attractive to me. As of now, meh.
RIPTIDE Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Having an adversary might make the P51-D more attractive to me. As of now, meh. We do have one. It's called the MiG-29. :thumbup: :megalol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Echo38 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 Sooo If they want my stash they can pm me... I think it's likely that they might not see your post, so you might want to instead P.M. Yo-Yo to offer it. Say, how did you come by such a trove?
OB1 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I think it's likely that they might not see your post, so you might want to instead P.M. Yo-Yo to offer it. Say, how did you come by such a trove? Many years ago I bought them in the pipe dream that I would reconstruct an accurate RC model... What can I say, I got busy... Anyhow these digital docs are marked with a copyright instruction, no digital distribution or resale is allowed so to cover my ass from the original distributors I would have to gift it to ED and lose it. :( or would I ? hmmm digital copies are soo flakey these days :D
Echo38 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Bought them from where? I'd like to know where one can get such things these days.
cichlidfan Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Bought them from where? I'd like to know where one can get such things these days. Possibly from some elderly gentleman, with an odd accent, in Argentina!! :D ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
OB1 Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Bought them from where? I'd like to know where one can get such things these days. It was a long time ago, had a bit of a look but where ever I got them from doesn't seem to exist anymore.... Starting to think these were a real bargain. Think I paid ~250 for them. Well anyway lets see if its any good to ED....
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