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No R-77 (AA-12) I was hoping to finally see one since they are flying combat missions. I guess not a big air thread.

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Thanks for that video, at mwd2! :)

 

That leads to another question - I noticed that some of the Russian runways have a big circle painted on them. Does that have anything to do with the drogue chute? Either releasing them when landing, or dropping them when taxiing?

 

Many runways have some of those ( it depends of what you are looking at). Some are Helicopter climb points others simply help with navigation (showing north or magnetic north), so pilots can adjust or check their equipment.

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Thanks for the info, @mvsgas!

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How'd they target ISIS with A-A missiles? :huh: Already wondered when I saw it on TV.

Does anyone knows why they're flying double seaters, is it the Su-27UB, I thought it was only for training pilots.

 

btw: Swiss Air Force does has the same chute procedure with their F-5E Tiger II aircraft, they drop it at the end of the runway and ground crew picks it up by car

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They look like SU-30MK

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Su-30SM.

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How'd they target ISIS with A-A missiles? :huh:

 

For self defense. Same reason why western jets have AA-equipment as well. You cannot be sure who you'll meet up in the air. Better than pants down with guns only...

 

But: Let's hope that the missionplanners take *very much* care that the areas of operations of each participating nation do not overlap...

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No R-77 (AA-12) I was hoping to finally see one since they are flying combat missions. I guess not a big air thread.

There is no reason for them to fly with R-77 because it isn't, and never was, operational with Russian Airforce. They will be getting a lot of R-77-1 (RVV-SD) from next year though.

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Lucky i guess. MANPADs are very dangerous, but their warheads are very small. Depends on where it hits, it may looked like an engine hit, but it wasn't devastating enough to cause a major failure (aka lucky). Though, i'm not too sure on the FN-6 specifications. That could be a factor too.

 

The helicopter does not survive. There is a longer clip that shows the results.

The chopper flies around in "lazy" descending circles, I'm assuming the crew was seeking a landing/crash site. Eventually it does a very hard landing and is consumed by post crash fire.

I can only hope the crew made it out.

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There is no reason for them to fly with R-77 because it isn't, and never was, operational with Russian Airforce. They will be getting a lot of R-77-1 (RVV-SD) from next year though.

 

Yes they have R-77 as well R-27EA. The R-27EA is better in medium range performance. You never gone know when they really carry this version, is the same body frame.

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Let's hope that the missionplanners take *very much* care that the areas of operations of each participating nation do not overlap...

 

Despite all the nagging all over the media, Russia, the US and all regional players are actually in close cooperation in terms of accident prevention, and there are open channels between most of them so that everyone knows what other planes are up to.

 

Syria is a relatively small country, and now that Iraq and Russia have agreed to strike targets on Iraq's side of the border to prevent both supply flow into Syria and troops from fleeing into Iraq, they will overlap even more.

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Many runways have some of those ( it depends of what you are looking at). Some are Helicopter climb points others simply help with navigation (showing north or magnetic north), so pilots can adjust or check their equipment.

 

Btw - didn't find the video that I was referring to, however, I found one in DCS (Mozdok); see screenshot attached. There doesn't seem to be any nav references associated with that, so it might be a helo climb point as you suggested.

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Btw - didn't find the video that I was referring to, however, I found one in DCS (Mozdok); see screenshot attached. There doesn't seem to be any nav references associated with that, so it might be a helo climb point as you suggested.

Mozdok appears to be a helicopter base (when looking at in in Google maps).

Coincidentally, for western side:

http://www.faa.gov/airports/resources/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.current/documentNumber/150_5340-1

 

Looking for something similar for other countries.

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Yes they have R-77 as well R-27EA. The R-27EA is better in medium range performance. You never gone know when they really carry this version, is the same body frame.

I don't think you read what i said; they don't have R-77 and it never was operational with RuAF. Proving otherwise would be easy; show me an operational RuAF plane with R-77. Good luck. I have 35 000+ pictures of RuAF and not a single one of an operational RuAF plane with R-77. At most there are shots of Su-35S with R-77-1 (most likely mock ups) and that is;

 

1; For testing, so doesnt count.

2; R-77-1 =/= R-77

 

I don't know about R-27EA, but i dont think that is operational either. I could very well be wrong here.

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I don't think you read what i said; they don't have R-77 and it never was operational with RuAF. Proving otherwise would be easy; show me an operational RuAF plane with R-77. Good luck. I have 35 000+ pictures of RuAF and not a single one of an operational RuAF plane with R-77. At most there are shots of Su-35S with R-77-1 (most likely mock ups) and that is;

 

1; For testing, so doesnt count.

2; R-77-1 =/= R-77

 

I don't know about R-27EA, but i dont think that is operational either. I could very well be wrong here.

 

What you said before is almost the same what you wrote here. I said you again, you never gone see the R-77 in operational deployment because the R-27 is better in medium range performance. They don't need the R-77, they have the R-27A and the R-27EA covering medium/long range.

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Source for operational R-27A/EA?

 

And please dont mention Carlo Kopp or Wikipedia.

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This discussion has been going around since I first remember logging in here and nobody ever settled for an answer :D I don't think that is happening today either.

 

Anyhow, some video content:

 

Syrian Army soldier films Russian Mi-24P doing CAS extremely low

 

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Syrian Army soldier films Russian Mi-24P doing CAS extremely low

 

WT*, you can see the Mi-24 attacking while take an ice cream :doh:

 

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Interesting how they have painted over the Russian Star. :)

 

I am also curious as to why they have the 2-seat Su-3x (not sure what variant that is) over there? Do they train over there as well, or do they fly combat missions, too?

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I am also curious as to why they have the 2-seat Su-3x (not sure what variant that is) over there? Do they train over there as well, or do they fly combat missions, too?

 

Su-30SM is a Russian variant of the Su-30MKI sold to India and it's most certainly not a trainer, but a fully fledged multi-role fighter.

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Su-30SM is a Russian variant of the Su-30MKI sold to India and it's most certainly not a trainer, but a fully fledged multi-role fighter.

 

Interesting! Thanks for the info! :)

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