danilop Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 @danilop - yes, that's the main motivator behind doing Russian gauges, being there are no available ones out there. The price, in my mind, 50-60$ per gauge is acceptable, 30-40$ would be reasonable, and sub 30$ gauges are my goal, even less with DIY kits. It is within reach now. Mig-21bis is the aircraft of my country's air force .I do believe there are still a couple left in flying condition after 2 collided and crashed last year (Yep, you can't touch us). So I'll definitely include gauges for it. .... If you keep it sub $30 you'll get a lot of customers! DIY kits would be great. I'm looking forward to it! P.S. Sve najbolje u Novoj Godini! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthro Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'd buy a DIY kit in a heart beat [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic86362_2.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'd buy a DIY kit in a heart beat + 1 Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 If you keep it sub $30 you'll get a lot of customers! DIY kits would be great. I'm looking forward to it! P.S. Sve najbolje u Novoj Godini! $30 per instrument kit, I would definitely buy a bunch of them. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubi Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 +1 for A-10 Stuff too! Would be in for those Kit´s. My Pit so far: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=101455 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sub $30, damn that's a low price, IF you could pull this off, I can promise you, you'll see quite a few. I myself would certainly be grabbing everything you could offer. Fingers crossed you can do it. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthro Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 yeah esp. the the ADI and the HSI. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic86362_2.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalnwood Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 pretty sure that would not include a more complex gauge like the ADI or HSI for $30, more like just the simpler engine gauge, single, maybe two pointer gauges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegykc Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Things are coming together! We have a candidate programmer for an interface program with a teensy board. The plan is to cut the costs of production down to a limit where it requires compromise in quality and/or realistic looks. Than I stop. That limit is somewhere around 30$ per single pointer gauge. Less when I leave out some of the details like illumination, for those with a really tight budget. Not every gauge needs to have its own interface, a limitless stepper motor or be injection molded or CNC'ed out of metal. Its all overkill in my mind, and keeps it out of reach for the most of us, in the price department. Of course, high end stuff 100% mil spec replicas can be designed too, if there is enough interest. Right now I want to make something for everyone to be able to enjoy. And this is not limited to DCS or combat sims only. ADI has 11 motors driving 11 different moving parts, so its like 11 gauges in one. Similar for HSI. The most important thing, it can be done. My rough estimate would be 80-120$ per a complex instrument like that. I have also teamed up with a member who has a 3D printer, and we are working hard and plenty on making all (and I mean all) the sticks, throttles and collectives (including force trim and ffb) in the current and coming DCS lineup. The idea being that for the price of the warthog, one could buy a base and 5-6 different sets of sticks and throttles. The machine should also help a lot with instrument building. Due to these recent developments I might have to hold off making this panel, for a few weeks at least. All in the goal of making it even simpler, cheaper, better. Plenty of big surprises coming in the next weeks and months! www.replikagear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MA_Goblin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I would get it for such a price +1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] _____________Semper paratus, In hoc signo vinces________________ PC: Intel i7-8700K (4.9 GHz), Aorus Ultra Gaming Z370 MB, Gigabyte RTX 3080, 32 GB DDR3 (3,2 GHz), Samsung EVO 860 M.2 500 GB SSD + Samsung 960 M.2 250 GB SSD Gaming: Virpil T-50 CM2, TM WH Throttle, Crosswind pedals, HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Demon- Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Count me in...unfortunately I cant be of any help except as a customer. Cheers Demon [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Founder of the -=VDS=- http://www.virtual-dragon-squadron.de:pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomDK Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Count me in...unfortunately I cant be of any help except as a customer. Cheers Demon Same to me ... electronics is not my baby :cry: My old, sold, pit: http://bilder.einzelart.de/thumbnails.php?album=74&page=3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Prices still sound bloody good to me. Can't wait for the surprises, :) Fantastic work. Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 17, 2013 ED Team Share Posted January 17, 2013 Looks interesting, I would be in as well :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthro Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I imagine a few solenoids and servos for both the HSI and ADI each also developing them poses a significant investment of man hours and cash. Would really like to grab them in a DIY kit too. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic86362_2.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brydling Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Nice work! This looks promising. Digital-to-Synchro converter for interfacing real aircraft instruments - Thread Check out my High Input Count Joystick Controller for cockpit builders, with support for 248 switches, 2 POV hats and 13 analog axes. Over 60 units sold. - B256A13 www.novelair.com - The world's most realistic flight simulators of the J35J Draken and the AJS37 Viggen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have also teamed up with a member who has a 3D printer, and we are working hard and plenty on making all (and I mean all) the sticks, throttles and collectives (including force trim and ffb) in the current and coming DCS lineup. The idea being that for the price of the warthog, one could buy a base and 5-6 different sets of sticks and throttles.Many very big companies, such as Microsoft, Saitek and Logitech, gave up on Forced Feedback sticks. I don't know what you have in mind, but FFB is not easy to do. Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Burns Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I thought most modernish jets were fly by wire so no force feedback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrgud Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Congratulations on great idea hegykc! The A10 engine gauges looks realy great! There's always work for inventive people. I'm really looking forward to MiG-21 gauges and even more so for stick. I know that maybe is too early, but do you plan to make just a shell for sticks, or complete wired sticks? It would be reasonable to choose 5-pin mini DIN connectors and gain compatibility with TM Warthog base. In that way, you would have a super quality versatile product, and customers who are willing to pay for it. Why didn't you open a new thread on our lockonhr.com forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegykc Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 So, to everyone wondering what happened to my project. I found out that self made 3D resin printers are just now becoming a reality. Machines that would and still do cost hundreds of thousands, you can now make for a 1.000 bucks or so, provided that you have a substantial degree o knowledge on how these things work. Hardware, electronics and firmware programming. After months of research and learning, I am starting to build my own machine. This has overtaken the priority over acrylic sheet designed instruments, because when I finish building this tool, only the imagination is the limit to what can be built. And not only prototypes but functional parts and in quantities and 100% authenticity. So bare with me, still some months of work left to do, but when it's done we can have truly great sim products that an average simmer can afford. 1 www.replikagear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derelor Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Thanks for the heads up. I will follow this thread closely. 1338 - beyond leet ED Forum rules EN|DE|RU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalnwood Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Good luck, you will be doing amazingly well if you can make quality panels with a 3d printer for $1k. I will keep an eye out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Just currious about what your deffinition of "100% authenticity" would be when several of the A-10C indicators spec are not available on every spec. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hegykc Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Ok, so 100% authenticity on 90% of the cockpit for A-10. Who cares, for the first time in simpit history, one can build a machine that can do shapes and parts that were a pipe dream just monts ago... I don't see people complaining about their thrustmaster warthogs not being within 1% of milspec dimensions. Pictures and other milspecs for reference will do. www.replikagear.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Hum some one needs a cookie https://www.shapeways.com/shops/a-10c-warthog-supplies https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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