Revelation Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 TBH, ED is heavily resposible for this. In most of the missions you're tasked with fighting hordes of enemies, and don't you dare to leave one tank undestroyed - mission incomplete. ED mission designe took a nose-dive after BS1. I disagree. In all the missions/campaigns I have flown by ED I would always get mission success before all enemies were destroyed. If you're talking about user created missions, that's a different story all together. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
Wrecking Crew Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 I killed a TOR last w/e but it took four D Mavs in two passes. Darn SA-15 shot down the first three. WC Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site.
sonic Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Something's really off Try the CA multiplayer missions named "MP-US Company Day Advance - Kislovodsk.miz" This is just insane... Default missions are unplayable.MP-US sonic Company Day Advance - Kislovodsk.miz [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sonic Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 Herewith the vid of the engagement against a SA-15: 100% kill-rate with Mav if employed right - eMCEI-FhSUc All good and well as long as there is only one Sa-15 in the OPFOR two or more in unknow position (not in the middle of the big cross) and the mission is unplayable. Gameplay is currently broken by a stealth patch [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Revelation Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 And NOW some of you may come to realize how important stealth capabilities will be in the future. But seriously, if you adjust your tactics you can take them out. Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
sonic Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 But seriously, if you adjust your tactics you can take them out. Problem is not if they can be taken out or not. Problem is how all of a sudden sa-15 and sa-19 become omnipotent? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Revelation Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 Problem is not if they can be taken out or not. Problem is how all of a sudden sa-15 and sa-19 become omnipotent? Do tell why you think that is a problem.... Can ED decide to improve on the functionality of DCS World assets as they determine to make them more realistic in their function and operation? Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT
159th_Viper Posted July 2, 2013 Posted July 2, 2013 (edited) Problem is how all of a sudden sa-15 and sa-19 become omnipotent? I'll say it again: SA-19's have been fixed. They do not have the ability to shoot down Mavs. If not already rectified in latest version then Please be Calm and await the Patch. SA-15's are SUPPOSED TO shoot down slow and lumbering porpoises (read Mavericks). This is normal: It's their job - there is nothing omnipotent about it. ....or more in unknow position (not in the middle of the big cross) and the mission is unplayable...... So the SAM operator must wave a red flag at you to make sure you know where he is before he engages? SAM systems should always be in an unknown location - they are a sitting duck at the best of times. In any event, as things are at the moment, you ALWAYS know where the SAM is. Just have a look at your RWR and find him. Edited July 2, 2013 by 159th_Viper Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sonic Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Do tell why you think that is a problem.... Because it is breaking gameplay of existing missions without warning. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Grimes Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Just to clarify some things. Every radar in game has different capabilities to detect assorted objects. It is not purely a question if a Tunguska can engage incoming missiles, its a question of how powerful the SA-19s radar is and the RCS of the incoming missile. Because it is breaking gameplay of existing missions without warning. Pretty much any change that is either accidental or on purpose to AI will effect existing missions. Whether that change is described as "breaking" is up to the mission builder. As stuff gets added or changed it is virtually impossible to ensure any behavior will remain the same. In this instance I do believe there were changes somewhere down the line which caused the Tunguska to start engaging more missiles. Also the bug related to SEAD missiles missing kinda intensified the issue. I can't wait until full-featured IADS are in place and witness the whining on the forums. Yep, they can be pretty menacing if you aren't paying attention. :music_whistling: The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
ENO Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Everyone captures this sim in their own way- People will whine just as loud if the SAMs stay the way they are or go back to the way they were. "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
Exorcet Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Yep, they can be pretty menacing if you aren't paying attention. :music_whistling: I cannot wait. I'd pay for the development of a realistic SAM module even if I never buy it. Though I can understand frustration with broken missions. Perhaps it could made easier to switch to older versions of the sim? Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
ENO Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I'm a little surprised that guy with the SAM simulator hasn't been more involved here for certain modules. Now THAT would be interesting to see! "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art
xracer Posted July 27, 2013 Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) Are we heading towards a sim that have eastern units upgraded to todays theoretical capacity, and western units at useless standard? You might just as well close the shop, and go home. No point in a DCS F-18 that can fly all day sending hundreds of missiles, that won't hit anything, exept defenseless trucks. From what I can read here, nobody seem to understand how useless this sim is becoming. Exept for spoiled russian kids, they just love this :) Ok that part i do think i understand the consequences of...What the...are we getting into a WW2 against Star Wars situation here in the sim? It's supposed to be playable too for non military experts isn't it? I guess thats also the reason why some of the russian missiles now reach outerspace too...hehe...Anyway i think i know exactly where to change stuff to make the missilefights more playable if needed... Edited July 27, 2013 by xracer System spec: Intel Core i7 920@4.2Ghz (stable, 65degC fully loaded), EVGA GTX-780, Asus P6T Deluxe V2 v.5.04 BIOS, Saitek X52, 1TB/500GB WD HD for system/storage. Kingston SSD 120 GB for DCS, 250GB Samsung 840 SSD for the rest. 16GB Kingston KHX1600C9D3 Memory, 9 GB Pagefile, EK HFX-240 Watercooling, Corsair HX-1000 PSU. HAF-932 Tower, TrackIR-5, Win64Ult [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VFA41_Lion Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Are we heading towards a sim that have eastern units upgraded to todays theoretical capacity, and western units at useless standard? You might just as well close the shop, and go home. No point in a DCS F-18 that can fly all day sending hundreds of missiles, that won't hit anything, exept defenseless trucks. From what I can read here, nobody seem to understand how useless this sim is becoming. Exept for spoiled russian kids, they just love this :) SA-19 has a radar that radiates. F-18 carries a high speed anti-radiation missile. Hmmmmm....
RagnarDa Posted July 28, 2013 Posted July 28, 2013 Yep, they can be pretty menacing if you aren't paying attention. :music_whistling: Wait what? Are you nearing release? DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
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