Is it realy done?

[Tailstrike]

My comments on the Belsimtek Huey!

 

1.) The main rotor head is not right detailed in my opinion.

From left to right i'll give comments based on the 2 pictures:

 

* There are spaces between bladeholders and blades . Blades are to thin at the root.

(two horizontal arrows)

*There should be space between bladeroot and end of the hubaxis in the bladeholder.

(left vertical arrow)

*Also there are spacers/gaps between the hub and the two blade holders on the axe.

(vertical arrows at the center)

*The corner of the root of the trailingedge of the blade is also not right done,

again spacing between edge and holder, blade should be thicker at the edge to fit the clamp of the rod. By the way, one is comming loose of the blade! (red circle)

 

 

 

2.) Tail gearbox and main gearbox are not detailed. However tailhub is good!

 

 

3.) The main rotorshaft is tilted backwards:

The fuselage nose should rise litle bit more and the main rotorshaft should come more forward until it is right-angled on the skids/ground and not on the doorsliderrails (yellow lines).

 



 

Also the skids are cast in concrete! O, and please let us choose to a straight exaust-pipe?

Probably used pictures from the media like this! Wich are not always done right.

 





4.)Also the huey hangs at the hub not dangle somewhere in between.

This (Huey) goes everywhere.

The rotor-system is not a semi-rigid or a rigid rotor system like the KA-50.

It has a seesaw rotor. It means it can not transmit torque to the main shaft!





So, is it worth $ 50,- bucks, i leave that on to you. :smartass:

If you ask me i say my 2 cents on this is enough for now. Come on!

I'll think for paying 50 bucks ED/ DCS can do it much better.

Couple hours on internet gives enough information to design a model realistic.

There are plenty reallife Huey pilots that can improve the flightmodel realistic

and not say ohh. this is good, this is awesome wow, yeh...... ok!

I have not the feeling that this is a licenced Bell Textron 205 UH :D

But it is BETA we shall see what comes.

Till now well done BELSIMTEK :thumbup:

 

-Tailstrike-

[joey45]

It's in beta.:smartass:

[molleh]

Ahh yes, nothing like some good old fashioned rivet counting. :)

[Tailstrike]

@joey45

No it is. It's for sale

 

It's in beta.:smartass:

 

Robinson R22 B is! :megalol:

 

-Tailstrike-

[Robert1983NL]

LMAO. Is this guy for real??!!

[Robert1983NL]

This thread just proves that the Huey by Belsimtek is just about perfect, actually.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Just fix the sensitivity to settling with power and we're good :) )

[Napa]

@joey45

No it is. It's for sale

 

 

 

Robinson R22 B is! :megalol:

 

-Tailstrike-

 

It's for pre-ordering and as a bonus you get access to the beta.

[ericoh]

Okay, everyone i know would say you totaly overdo it. To be honest. I find this awesome lol! Now i would not hit on Belsimtek for that but i love the attention to detail some people in this community have!

[Tailstrike]

Okay, everyone i know would say you totaly overdo it. To be honest. I find this awesome lol! Now i would not hit on Belsimtek for that but i love the attention to detail some people in this community have!

I don't hit. Belsimtek say that they have a super realistic kind of chopper licenced by Bell.

First I discovered the backward cranked mainshaft. When i looked closer i discovered more and more, besides of the FM :pilotfly:

I just showed them so they can improve these things. What is wrong about that? They ask 50 bucks for this not me.

I've got no hard feelings about this.

 

@ Innerloop

Thank you!

 

@ Belsimtek and DCS

Thank you to for this Simulator!

[ericoh]

I did not say it is wrong at all, infact i agree with you, hitting might be strong word lol

[tusler]

Wow, no kidden, I've been so busy having fun flying I didn't even notice:joystick:

[skouras]

I don't hit. Belsimtek say that they have a super realistic kind of chopper licenced by Bell.

First I discovered the backward cranked mainshaft. When i looked closer i discovered more and more, besides of the FM :pilotfly:

I just showed them so they can improve these things. What is wrong about that? They ask 50 bucks for this not me.

I've got no hard feelings about this.

 

@ Innerloop

Thank you!

 

@ Belsimtek and DCS

Thank you to for this Simulator!

 

in my opinion is good to have people helping around here and notice things

thanks buddy

[AlphaOneSix]

There are a few things in the original post that are not correct, so I'd take the rest of it with a grain of salt.

[Tailstrike]

@ ericoh

Yeh, it's ok lol :lol:

 

First post is sick, but i had to post it. DCS is a good sim and has a high quality standards.

I came to these conclusions suddenly. I don't count rivets. But compare

to this there are options for improvements.

I know there are limits to a number of polygons and stuff like that.

But a Huey is not that difficult like a KA-50 or something like that.

I studied helicopters since i was 14 years old alot of years ago.

I know it is hard. I know how they work.

 

Thanks for the replys gentlemen

 

@ Tusler

Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff !

LOL :thumbup: :megalol: !!!! funny!!!

 

thanks Skouras

 

-Tailstrike-

[Tailstrike]

There are a few things in the original post that are not correct, so I'd take the rest of it with a grain of salt.

 

 

 

@AlphaOneSix

 

Like what?

Do you fly helicopters in RL?

 

-TS-

Edited May 13, 2013 by Tailstrike
forgot second question!

[Ali Fish]

well its all about how much emotion is put into certain feedback. I am trully the worst for it myself.

[AlphaOneSix]

There are a few things in the original post that are not correct, so I'd take the rest of it with a grain of salt.

 

 

@AlphaOneSix

 

Like what?

Do you fly helikopters in RL?

 

-TS-

 

I am not a rated helicopter pilot. I am a pilot, and I have flown helicopters. Not sure how that's particularly relevant. I'm also an A&P with 13 years of helicopter experience, if that helps.

 

The definition of a semi-rigid rotor system is a teetering or seesaw rotor system. The two-bladed Huey does have a semi-rigid rotor, is what I was getting at.

 

Also, during autorotation, the rotor head most certainly does transmit torque to the gearbox, unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say about transmitting torque.

 

Actually, other than that, every single thing in your post could be perfectly correct. I have spent the last couple of weeks working on a 412, however...which obviously has a very different rotor system.

[HuggyBear]

Lots of things in your original post were certainly correct Your style of posting in questioning the value of the product however, was certain to raise objection.

 

Why not post these findings in the bug thread?

 

The flight model is constantly being improved, this has been discussed in several threads already.

 

As for asking whether an SME is a pilot...

 

I'd rate the opinion of a Flight Engineer (apologies if I used the wrong term A16) over that of a pilot when discussing a rotor head (although Maintenance Pilots can be quite knowledgeable, but that's only because we hang around the Flight Engineers and ask lots of questions :) ).

 

- Bear

[todd022]

OP had a busy weekend, I see...:noexpression:

[hansangb]

I guess if that's all there is to nitpick, they got it pretty right. But having flown most of the flight sims out there (Gunship, F19, Knights of the sky, Falcon - all versions, Flight of the Intruder, LOMAC, JANEs etc.etc.etc) I like this the most. It's AWESOME. Just the right amount of "hardness" and "fun factor" Awesome job.

[AlphaOneSix]

Flight Engineer (apologies if I used the wrong term A16)

 

Being called an FE doesn't offend me as much as being called a door gunner, but both of those fit my job description, as well as crew chief, loadmaster, mechanic, and especially...cat herder.

 

I've been flying/working on Mi-17s for the last 6 years, and most of my helo stick time is in Mi-17s, so I'm definitely looking forward to that module (Mi-8MTV-2).

[Sundowner.pl]

I guess if that's all there is to nitpick, they got it pretty right.

Unfortunately it is not, but since we don't know what is exactly worked on, and what bugs are known, and unknown, input from customers like us is rather meaningless. Belsimtek have pretty big testing team, I'm leaving up to them finding errors and bugs in this module... unless there is something I'm certain they would miss - like emergency gov. on the ground not spooling engine all the way, or DC voltmeter not reading the battery voltage with the battery switch in OFF position.

[Robert1983NL]

Bottom line, this Huey is awesome and most probably the best helisim available for the PC. Tailstrike, I don't know your background and where you get your knowledge from, or even what you're trying to prove. Your findings are so minimalistic, it proves that the Belsimtek is great.

[ericoh]

Let belsimtek look at it and decide if they wanna do something bout it or not. but realy.... some here are biased like hell.... Man let people nitpick if they like. you think men made it to space cause they said "ahh **** it its fine like that". i doubt...

[Vlerkies]

It's in beta.:smartass:

 

 

Yeah. I agree, heaven forbid Tailstrike actually gets inside and finds out the gunners don't fire when ordered to, the co-pilot has his hands on the controls at all times, amongst other 'beta' things.