alexej21 Posted May 31, 2013 Share Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Hello Guys, After some periods of time in MP a big number of dummy contacts appear (or dead contats stay) on DataLink (Su27 and Mig29) screen. You can't recognize which threat is a real and which is only a ghost contact. This problem affects every Client in the game. Please fix this. Thank you, Edited July 17, 2013 by alexej21 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] .....Vladimir, let's go to Sukhoi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexej21 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 BUMP. Any info about this annoying bug ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] .....Vladimir, let's go to Sukhoi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Bump of the bump. It is a very irritating bug. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dooom Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Bumparumpadoo! Very annoying. ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogey Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Same problem, bump di bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaliG Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 bump tookootookoo bump clits clits... no change after 1.2.5 :helpsmilie: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] TaliG - 373vFS “Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Falcon Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Occurs on SU-33 as well. And as said, very annoying. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teknetinium Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Very irritating as the rest of the bugs. Default data-link in su-27 would reasonable to compensate defult TWS-mode which doesn't help you at all with situation awareness compere to FC2. 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grigs Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 And the mission planer failed..again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkspade Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Someone I fly with that flies Russian birds happened to mention that you just have to pay attention to which ones are actually moving on the datalink as the 'ghost' ones are stationary. http://104thphoenix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Perhaps you could create a short TRK (simplified MP mission) and a report to the ED-testers, so it's easier for them to get it reported correctly. :) The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexej21 Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share Posted July 24, 2013 Yes,that is the only way,but it is very difficult because normally contacts move only when awacs send update. You could wait long time for an update. Sometimes we had more than 30dummy contacts on dl... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] .....Vladimir, let's go to Sukhoi....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaliG Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Someone I fly with that flies Russian birds happened to mention that you just have to pay attention to which ones are actually moving on the datalink as the 'ghost' ones are stationary. If you fly in a server that does not reload after a couple of hours..then your MFD is full of un-existant friends and enemies...and when you really need it..eg when you are defensive, loosing track and need this tool too reacquire your target (experienced LOMAC pilots turn off their ECM when getting defensive and closer to the enemy) then this tool becomes, not only useless, but also destructive...if you understand what I mean.. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] TaliG - 373vFS “Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Falcon Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Perhaps you could create a short TRK (simplified MP mission) and a report to the ED-testers, so it's easier for them to get it reported correctly. :) That's the problem panzer, this bug shows itself over time. Possibly related whit aircraft being shot down not being removed from data link. So creating a track in a simple mission probably works, but it would by no means be short. (and hence, prone to errors due to network latency and other shenanigans related to trackfiles.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] The keeper of all mathematical knowledge and the oracle of flight modeling.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exorcet Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 That's the problem panzer, this bug shows itself over time. Possibly related whit aircraft being shot down not being removed from data link. So creating a track in a simple mission probably works, but it would by no means be short. (and hence, prone to errors due to network latency and other shenanigans related to trackfiles.) Actually I'm pretty sure I've got a Flanker mission where you see this near instantly. Scramble to intercept F/A-18's attacking SAM's. The SAM's fire back, the missiles show up on the datalink, and then never go away. At least if I remember correctly. I can't access it now though. I might double check it and post in the future. The bug is pretty crippling for the Flanker. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 25, 2013 ED Team Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Hello Guys, After some periods of time in MP a big number of dummy contacts appear (or dead contats stay) on DataLink (Su27 and Mig29) screen. You can't recognize which threat is a real and which is only a ghost contact. This problem affects every Client in the game. Please fix this. Thank you, Please provide a track using 1.2.5. We cannot reproduce this. Edited July 25, 2013 by Wags Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepin1234 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) this bug is old one. I remember the first FC3 versions already with this bug. But... yes, a track maybe can help after all these months... Edited July 25, 2013 by pepin1234 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karambiatos Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 i have a track showing the problem that lasts for the entire time while im on the server, but the track is too big to upload to the forum so here it is https://www.dropbox.com/s/dkjuth7pqr8ld6c/client-20130725-220901.trk track start in game time 09:57 Su-27 game play and problem can clearly be seen on the TAD after 10:43:56 A 1000 flights, a 1000 crashes, perfect record. =&arrFilter_pf[gameversion]=&arrFilter_pf[filelang]=&arrFilter_pf[aircraft]=&arrFilter_DATE_CREATE_1_DAYS_TO_BACK=&sort_by_order=TIMESTAMP_X_DESC"] Check out my random mods and things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 25, 2013 ED Team Share Posted July 25, 2013 No units in track play back using 1.2.5. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaliG Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 No units in track play back using 1.2.5. I played the .trk and the dummy contacts can be clearly seen from 10:54:33 until 10:58:51. Please check again from 10:54 until 10:58. I used 1.2.5 for playback [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] TaliG - 373vFS “Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) I'll check also on my end... EDIT: downloaded the track but it won't run on my end, it won't un-pause and when I press ESC game crashes Edited July 26, 2013 by Kuky No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) Checking. Not crashed here. Yepp, got them. Edited July 26, 2013 by Panzertard edit: wrong clip The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 alright, got it to run... had to speed up till Su-27 came in... and yes, from all those contacts on datalink some do look like not refreshing their position and heading for long time... some do but some don't so it is likely this bug is still there (was also sometimes occurring in FC2) No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaliG Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 alright, got it to run... had to speed up till Su-27 came in... and yes, from all those contacts on datalink some do look like not refreshing their position and heading for long time... some do but some don't so it is likely this bug is still there (was also sometimes occurring in FC2) Thanks for duble check, I would like to ad that the dummies are clearly shown at 10:54 until 10:58 and you need to forward a LOT, and in this track you can see only 10-12 dumies only... I was on 51st server and most of the times that the awacs was enabled, afte 4 hours of ''bussy'' server the TAD was FULL of dumies, it was beter to not look at it at all..at least 60-70 dumies overlaping eachother... as said the effect needs time to build up, and in a busy server like 51st that runs 20-30 people for 4 hours, this is the place that you are going to have trouble... Thanks again for taking the time to check this track, ( I had lanch and coffe untill I get to 10:54 to see the bug) :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] TaliG - 373vFS “Do not repeat the tactics which have gained you one victory, but let your methods be regulated by the infinite variety of circumstances.” Sun Tzu, The Art of War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 well from what I saw there was maybe around 20 datalink contacts (most certainly not 60-70) but also I wonder how do you see contacts 180Km away using EOS ????? No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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