Waiting for first discount on DCS: Mi-8MTV2

[TaliG]

I bought a AMD HD7950 on launch day for $479, then AMD dropped it a month later to $399, and they are about $270 now.... lol

 

True. AMD doesn't sell only HD7950s they sell 100ds of other stuff (not only graphics cards)

On the contrary, BST is selling only 2 products, and both of them in a beta state. Not only that, but also their products are refared to people, people like me, simu-holics :D , low number buyers all in all..

So for me their marketing approach is wrong, except if they are dyeing...or there is one more approach. Milk the cow until its dead or you die yourself.

I dnt know if this sounds correct in english, im greek, but I hope you get the meaning.

I also hope that none of the above are true, and I need a doctor :huh:

Edited September 19, 2013 by TaliG

[Flagrum]

I love these threads, theres this sense of (i dont know the word for it), that if i payed for something, no one else should pay less for it.

 

So what would have happened if it was 14 months later, but you bought it a day before the product went on sale would you still winge about it?

 

Who would have bought it on day one if they would have put a label on it, saying "Buy now for 50 or in a few days for less than half the price!" ... who would have bought it back then? A few, sure, but I bet not as much as it was now in reality.

 

Then, same scenario, now the label says "buy now for 50 or in a year for less than half the price". Would the sales figgures been different then? I BET.

 

I bought it on day one - but I don't complain now. But such sales actually do seem a bit odd to me as well. In my world, they give a message to their customers that way: "Thanks if you want to support us to finish the product and to continue to produce more excellent stuff, but no thanks, actually we don't really need/want your money. That's why we dilapidate our brand new products."

[ff4life4]

Your comparison of the situation is moot.

A. The iPhone wasnt in Beta.

B. The Price reduction was a permanent change, not a Limited Time Sale and was a Result of Poor Sales.

 

No offense, but I fail to see your points.

 

A. The fact that the product is in beta is worse than if it was a full release. Look at Arma 3, early adopters got a discount, that kept everyone happy.

 

B. It doesn't matter if it was the result of good or poor sales. Customers felt as if they got ripped off. And in this case whether it was a permanent change or a limited time offer doesn't change the point again. Many of the initial Mi-8 and Huey customers feel like fools. It doesn't matter what the circumstance is. A business should look to keeping customers, especially early adopters, happy.

[Save]

There is no question, they are capable of determining when their products go on sale and if its good for their business. If it helps keep the lights on and the sim flowing, what is to question?

 

The question is to warning them... To show ED that some of us (not all) are "offense" and will learn for next time (It's the best place to do it because it's their forum)

They have to take it into account because the worst what can happen for each of us is that they don't take care enough to their Customer.

 

But I continue to think that use sale like they do on too news modules IN BETA can become in more long time a big enemy... It's just my little opinion that everyone have the right to not share.

Edited September 19, 2013 by Save

[SkateZilla]

A Sale's Purpose, is to Generate Interest and Sales for a Limited time from users that normally wouldn't consider the product. After which the normal price is re-instated.

[MetaBaron]

Hi there, after receiving the nice email from ED informing me about the autumn sale I was quite happy ...that is until I got later by the ED forums and find out about all these people whining about them been ripped off because they supported the project first time paying full price and have more "value" than customers who are paying less now !!?

Some even say that it will bring new people on the forum with noob questions... As if they were not beginners and noobs themselves at some point !!

 

Really wt. is going on with you people ?

 

I'm "supporting" DCS since BS1 and got A10C beta right away when available(with TM Warthog at full price also) and got all modules except P51D.

Now I'm very happy to have paid 20$ for the Huey and will get the MI8 within next days for another 20$.

I would not have bought these modules as I'm not really interested in these helicopters - I'm waiting eagerly for the Hind, Apache and Harrier if possible, that I will for sure buy right away even when they are still in beta.

That's my personnal choice ...otherwise I wait a year or two and get a game for 5€ on any summer sale on steam or at the corner's shop !!

I'm really not looking forward to fly in multi with guys having such a narrow mentality.

 

Regards

[SkateZilla]

No offense, but I fail to see your points.

 

A. The fact that the product is in beta is worse than if it was a full release. Look at Arma 3, early adopters got a discount, that kept everyone happy.

 

B. It doesn't matter if it was the result of good or poor sales. Customers felt as if they got ripped off. And in this case whether it was a permanent change or a limited time offer doesn't change the point again. Many of the initial Mi-8 and Huey customers feel like fools. It doesn't matter what the circumstance is. A business should look to keeping customers, especially early adopters, happy.

 

VERY Early Adopters got a discount, The Arma3 Deal wasnt for a "Beta",. it was for an ALPHA, there's a huge difference. once it went Beta the price went up, and once it went gold/released the price went up more, and it's still unfinished.

 

And My Schedule Shows ArmA III being on a Steam sale very soon..

Edited September 19, 2013 by SkateZilla

[sobek]

Guys, think a little harder about your language, forum rules are in effect. You have been warned.

[Fishbreath]

I fail to see your point. What if you bought a car for $25,000. Right after that another guy bought the same exact car and paid only $20,000. Would you feel ripped off?

 

This already happens all the time.

 

On your other post on trust: that's immaterial. Either you thought it was worth $50 or you didn't. If you didn't think it was worth $50, you shouldn't have paid $50, and insisting that everyone else who didn't think it was worth $50 should also have to pay $50 is silly.

[Scooternutz]

I paid full price for the MI-8 and now it will be on sale for $19.99. I have zero problems with that. I encourage everybody to get this module! The more pilots that buy, the better.

[johno1066]

Actually, just seen the WW2 Europe project video so yes, while annoying to see a product discounted, if it keeps simulations alive, then i'll take this one on the chin.

Edited September 19, 2013 by johno1066

[Fishbreath]

I paid full price for the MI-8 and now it will be on sale for $19.99. I have zero problems with that. I encourage everybody to get this module! The more pilots that buy, the better.

 

It's on my list, but I need to learn the Huey first, and I'd like some fast movers, so it's Flaming Cliffs 3 for me next. :P

[ff4life4]

VERY Early Adopters got a discount, The Arma3 Deal wasnt for a "Beta",. it was for an ALPHA, there's a huge difference. once it went Beta the price went up, and once it went gold/released the price went up more, and it's still unfinished.

 

Still my point stands. The price went up from Beta to Final release.

[Emmer]

So here I get a email of nearly every mod is now on sale!

 

I have paid full price for every mod!! Okay I can say I support the ED but damn I feel like I just got raped..

 

I guess from this point forward I will refuse to support at full price for any other future mods.......

 

Not going to get burned again...:mad:

 

One of the reasons i don't fly vitual anymore..............:mad:

[slowhand]

LOL, this was not the 1st time DCS has had a sale:megalol: and won't be the last I hope:music_whistling:

[TaliG]

A Sale's Purpose, is to Generate Interest and Sales for a Limited time from users that normally wouldn't consider the product. After which the normal price is re-instated.

 

ALSO, If it is not done in a correct manner, like its done now, it will generate negative feedback on the buyers.

[ARM505]

I doubt this is a BST stunt to be honest (ie it probably wasn't entirely up to them, who knows) - but I do now know to give ANY DCS product a couple of weeks/months to 'mellow' before buying now.

 

a) more patches to get the day one release up to spec

b) more likely to get a special

 

Sorry guys, I'm not whining at all (price them how you like, and more customers means more players!) but I have learned a lesson from this, you'd have to be an idiot not to.

[Rotorhead]

Seriously, guys, get over it.

 

You bought Mi-8 for full price, so you probably wanted it enough to pay 50 bucks. You probably thought that $50 is a fair price for such high quality product if you didn't mind to pay it. You probably wanted it pretty bad, if you bought it that early. And you probably had money for it, if you could afford to spend it, right?

 

If the above paragraph was false, you'd wait for sale. Just like people do when they see a product they want "not that much", or can't afford it. I paid the full price too, and I don't feel robbed. Yes, its a bit unfortunate, but not that bad as you make it. So please don be over-dramatic.

 

 

Although I must admit that such a HUGE sale on product that is out only for 2 weeks (let alone in Beta) is strange marketing policy. I'd expect no more than 10 to 15% on a brand new product.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

As I posted before in MI-8 forum. I am extremely pissed that they pulled this stunt again. You can say all you want about my complaining, but this is ridiculous. We have worked hard for our money. For a product to get a 60% reduction in price in 2 WEEKS in BETA stage, I cannot comprehend this.

 

I have learned my lesson. I will NEVER but a BST product at full price again. This is a slap in the face.

 

From the words of Michael Scott

 

To all of those who waited, I am very happy for you. For the rest of us who paid full price, and respect our money, we are extremely upset.

 

Oh good grief. These sales shouldn't be a surprise anymore.

 

Were the modules not worth the price you paid? If not, why'd you buy a second one? And if you're so insistent you never wanted to pay full price, why didn't you wait to buy the Mi8 on sale?

[ff4life4]

ALSO, If it is not done in a correct manner, like its done now, it will generate negative feedback on the buyers.

 

That is all my point is. A forum is going to be full of opinions. All I have been are my opinions and feelings. MANY customers are extremely upset with the decisions on sales that they have made. MANY will not make the same mistake again. That is my only point.

 

I'm not trying to say who is right and who is wrong. Only how I feel.

 

A forum is a place for fact and opinion.

Edited September 19, 2013 by ff4life4

[johno1066]

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Edited September 19, 2013 by johno1066

[Lib]

I buy holloween candy the day after holloween on sale.....

 

And (like me) you probably buy a huge bouquet of flowers the day after Valentine ! :megalol:

[SkateZilla]

Still my point stands. The price went up from Beta to Final release.

 

And it will go down soon, in less than 3 weeks after launch.....

Just as Steam Always does with Flash Sales... To Keep sales and Interest on new Items up.

 

I understand your opinions and points of view... But in the grand scheme of things, Sales always generate revenue and interest.

 

when certain modules were left off the sale (because it wasnt on steam), people went nuts... and ED announced a ED Shop sale soon, to cover that module.

Edited September 19, 2013 by SkateZilla

[ff4life4]

And it will go down soon, in less than 3 weeks after launch.....

Just as Steam Always does with Flash Sales... To Keep sales and Interest on new Items up.

 

And we shall see. But I highly doubt it will be in 2 weeks and more than half off

[Save]

A Sale's Purpose, is to Generate Interest and Sales for a Limited time from users that normally wouldn't consider the product. After which the normal price is re-instated.

 

I 100% agree with you on this ... The problem is that Sale is so often and on so new release that it's become "unlogic" to pay normal price even for some of us, who are Fanboy and interest customer.