LexiconG2 Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 So I am using steam for DCS world because I have a massive amount of games on that platform. I have all the current mods for DCS world. I can't use my MI-8 key yet. Which I don't understand why it's so hard to add these to the SQL database that steam uses... So in the future am I better off just using the installed MSI for DCS world? I ask this because add-ons like the MIG-21 I will want to have and I don't want to have to deal with buying addons and not being able to use them in the future until they get around to adding the keys. CJ Kinsey Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
Eddie Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Third party modules may never be on Steam. Although it may be possible to install them into a Steam DCS install It is up to each third party team how they sell and distribute their products. Not ED.
cichlidfan Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Your best bet, from an availability and convenience standpoint, is always going to be outside of Steam. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
SkateZilla Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) ED Sends Steam a Valid/Active Key Dump every month. Steams Database is not automatically updated with new keys whenever a License is bought from another distribution method (ED, Game Fly, etc). Once you Buy a License, the Key is a Active, Valid License for Starforce Activation. In order for the user to Activate an External License on Steam, Steam needs to merge it with their Database, It's not just for activation, they have to merge the database, so the Steam Server Recognizes your code, and knows what DLC to Link it to and download. Modules from ED Partners will be integrated into DCSW and Updates will be sent out through DCSW Updates to both DCSW Standalone and Steam. Modules from 3rd Party Developers will use their own DRM, and Update Distribution System. I've had no issues with Installing DRM Free 3rd party Modules, and I havent tested DRM Solutions with 3rd Party Modules on DCSW Steam. Edited September 25, 2013 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Nealius Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I thought the Mi-8 was on Steam? I didn't have any troubles at all with the Huey on Steam.
LexiconG2 Posted September 25, 2013 Author Posted September 25, 2013 Based on the fact that 3rd party addons might never be on steam I will just use the MSI. Not worth having to wait for things to be added each month. Thanks Dell XPS 8500 Modified 700 Watt PSU Windows 8 Pro MCE Intel I7 3770 3.8 GHZ TR (stock) 16GB DDR 3 PC12800 Gigabyte 760 OC 2.0GB 2x 2TB HD
SkateZilla Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I thought the Mi-8 was on Steam? I didn't have any troubles at all with the Huey on Steam. Again, the License Key Dump is only sent to Steam every 30 days, *Assuming* they send them on the 1st, the Key should be able to Activate Mid-week next week. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
OneBlueSky Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Based on the fact that 3rd party addons might never be on steam I will just use the MSI. Not worth having to wait for things to be added each month. Thanks That's exactly why I stopped using Steam a while back. I've also noticed that DCS runs far better/smoother since going that route. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Byeohazard Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I have also (tonight actualy) started to get away from the STEAM installation. I purchased Combined Arms and STEAM does not recognize my game key yet. So once everything is honky dory with this version (still downloading my planes) I will uninstall the STEAM version and go this route. I will say that the bandwidth /download speed isn't too peachy with the non-STEAM version though.
Hamblue Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 That's exactly why I stopped using Steam a while back. I've also noticed that DCS runs far better/smoother since going that route. DCS runs better because Steam is a Hog. It uses quite a bit of resources and can even be some of the problems with crashes. I used to have crash issues with it back in my COD days. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down
AhSoul Posted September 29, 2013 Posted September 29, 2013 I bought A-10C through Steam a while back, but pretty quickly realised that with DCS you're better off running DCS World + Modules as a completely separate install...... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Soul's pit thread
KaspeR32 Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 DCS runs better because Steam is a Hog. It uses quite a bit of resources and can even be some of the problems with crashes. I used to have crash issues with it back in my COD days. lol. Steam runs using less resources than the browser window you have open right now. If it's a hog then you probably need a new PC. Intel i5-2500k @ 4.4GHz w/ H70 liquid cooler, ASRock PRO3-M Z68 Mobo, 32G 1600Mhz Mushkin RAM, EVGA GTX970 4GB , OCZ Agility 3 128g SSD, SanDisk 240g SSD, Win7 64-bit --Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/livingfood --
Feuerfalke Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 As long as DCS has no lobby, no pregame-chat, no buddy-system, no voice-chat, no multiplayer-logbook, no recommendation-system, no one-click-manual, no one-click-community-guide, ... I guess there's more reasons to use STEAM than not. MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
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