What is the best CPU for this game? Also, Solid State Drive, or Hard Drive?

[Dudester22]

I currently have an i7 930 overclocked to 4.0 Ghz, but is there a better cpu out there that would give much better performance in this Sim? I ask this because I am about to build a new Computer because this ones 4 years old now. Also what benefits would I see with a solid state drive compared to my Raptor HardDrive?

[EchoMasterMind]

I got DCS on a SSD. The loading times are pretty good compared to what they used to be on my HDD.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

haha, do you want to get rid off your "old" cpu?:)

[RedRider]

Keep your i7 930. Spend the money on a nice graphics card. The game can't use the processor you have effectively as it is. I was in a similar position -- I've got an i7 920 from 2009. After reading up in the forums on the topic, I kept the processor, OC'd to 3.6 Ghz, got a nice 256 GB SSD and a pricey GTX 780 video card to replace my old ATI 5870. The graphics card now allows me to turn up every setting to max @ 1080p and I keep a pretty constant 40-50 fps. The only effect of the SSD on performance was a bit quicker load time, but with only a SATA 3 controller on my motherboard I'm kind of handicapping the SSD. Still, I can't see this game performing any better than it is for me now. Upgrading the processor/motherboard would be a waste right now for me. That's with only 6 GB ram.

 

My two cents... Maybe if you run multi-monitors you might need more, but then I think you're looking at SLI maybe. That's the direction I'm thinking I'll be heading.

[Suchacz]

Patience, the time for the upgrades will come with EDGE :D

[Dudester22]

Looks like I will keep it for now until they can get a clock speed of 50Ghz. I was just thinking maybe a Sandy Bridge Cpu, might have helped or something. I already have a Geforce 680 GTX, so no problem there. I can only set visible range and scenes to medium to get a constant 60FPS though. I much prefer to get a constant 60 FPS and have it running smooth, but I would like to turn those setting up to high.

Edited October 31, 2013 by Dudester22

[Rongor]

I currently have an i7 930 overclocked to 4.0 Ghz, but is there a better cpu out there that would give much better performance in this Sim? I ask this because I am about to build a new Computer because this ones 4 years old now. Also what benefits would I see with a solid state drive compared to my Raptor HardDrive?

I think the answers to your question are as simple as they are valid for all games.

SSD is faster than HDD.

New CPU is faster than old CPU.

I guess you already knew that.

 

I run DCS World on an "old" DualCore with 3.2 GHz and 8 GB RAM, on HDD with an "old" Nvidia GTX285. I have no issues to tell, game runs smooth and fine.

[EtherealN]

Sandy Bridge is faster than the 930. However, don't stare yourself blind on clock speeds; that's just a metronome, and doesn't really give the whole picture about how "fast" a processor is.

 

In a rough guesstimate, I would suspect that the difference in DCS between the 930 and newest Haswells would be around 30% on a for-clock basis; that is, a 4.5GHz Haswell will be 30% "faster" than a 4.5GHz 930. If it was myself, I wouldn't bother upgrading just yet. This does, however, also require that you do not have other bottlenecks as well; for example graphics cards. Depending on which graphics card you currently have a CPU upgrade might simply mean that your new CPU will have idle time when running high graphics settings since everything has to sit and wait for your graphics card.

[Dudester22]

Sandy Bridge is faster than the 930. However, don't stare yourself blind on clock speeds; that's just a metronome, and doesn't really give the whole picture about how "fast" a processor is.

 

In a rough guesstimate, I would suspect that the difference in DCS between the 930 and newest Haswells would be around 30% on a for-clock basis; that is, a 4.5GHz Haswell will be 30% "faster" than a 4.5GHz 930. If it was myself, I wouldn't bother upgrading just yet. This does, however, also require that you do not have other bottlenecks as well; for example graphics cards. Depending on which graphics card you currently have a CPU upgrade might simply mean that your new CPU will have idle time when running high graphics settings since everything has to sit and wait for your graphics card.

 

Really? as much as 30% more? I don't think my Graphics card would bottle neck, it's a Geforce 680 GTX , so I would be alright there. Do you reckon that 30% would allow me to set visible range and scenes to high and have a constant 60FPS like I have now?

[RagnarDa]

There are more or less objective and scientific measurements all over the Internet. Suggest you have a look:

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/cpu-charts-2013/benchmarks,140.html

The difference between 930 and Haswell seems to be almost 50% FPS increase when factory clocked.

[VanjaB]

Your graphics card is fine. There is no reason to go for the 780GTX or an equivalent or better ATI card unless you are going for a multimonitor setup or something.

 

My suggestion and advice. Wait for EDGE. Its coming by the end of the year, its a brand new rendering engine and will probably (hopefuly) wipe the slate clean with regards to performance. The truth is we have no idea how the game will perform with EDGE so wait before upgrading.

[Scruffy]

Need some serious help

 

Hello all,

 

I would much appreciate your help.

 

I am looking for a new graphics card. I want to be able to play DCS modules (A-10C, P-51, UH-1 Huey etc.) and the upcoming WWII Europe 1944 (I know we will not know the recommended requirements until the game is released).

 

I want to operate at max or near-max settings @ 1920 x 1080 in a single monitor and with the fastest possible frame rate. I don’t mention IL-2 Sturmovik: Battle of Stalingrad, because having seen rise of flight, I now that they manage their games in a way that they can perform very well even in a mid – low end rig. And of course I’m not concerned about the good old IL-2 1946 because I could play it in very high settings and decent FPS with my previous GPU.

 

Some people told me that A-10 is a more CPU consuming than GPU consuming sim. But here is the thing, I don’t want to switch my CPU because first of all I simply don’t have the funds and luxury to afford it and second I’m perfectly satisfied with my current CPU in other applications.

 

Also switching to an Intel CPU which is traditionally better at gaming would mean that I will need to switch my current AMD socket Mother Board.

 

So the question is this:

 

What is the best GPU at the region of € 250 - € 300 that would best fit my current rig?

 

As I already said those money won’t come easy, but it is something I was planning to do for a long time and Im hoping to get the right thing and not end up with a huge buyer’s remorse.

 

Keep in mind that I don’t care a bit about other genres. I just want it to be awesome at flight simming.

 

My Rig Today:

 

MoBo:

 

MSI 870A-G54

 

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/870A-G54.html#/?div=Detail

 

CPU:

 

Amd phenom II x6 1055t 2.8

 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed

 

GPU:

 

ATI Radeon HD 5670

 

8 Gigs RAM:

 

2 x Kingston KVR1333d3n9/4G

 

PSU

 

Corsair CX750M Builder Series 750 Watt

 

*I will run DCS modules from a Kingston SSD drive with Win 7 64 bit OS.

Edited December 10, 2013 by Scruffy

[Irregular programming]

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It's true that the game is CPU heavy but only when compared to other games. Most of which are really easy on the CPU because they don't really need to do any calculations other than getting stuff to show up on the screen.

 

This game is however way more GPU heavy than other games too, mostly because of an older renderer. But also because a flightsim cannot cheat on level geometry like other games. You need to render what is around you, and you need to stream the terrain at 500km/h.

 

Other than that I am not sure I can help you because I don't really know much about AMD cpus other than you should really buy Intel for better performance at the same price. 300 euro could certainly get you a decent card but maybe you should wait until Edge is out to see what kind of performance is needed then.

 

Which card are you using right now?

 

Also, the 770 is about your price range but I would recommend against cheapening out and buying it, it's the same chip as the 680 just overclocked, the 780 would be a much better purchase however more expensive.

 

Your graphics card is fine. There is no reason to go for the 780GTX or an equivalent or better ATI card unless you are going for a multimonitor setup or something.

 

The 780 is probably the card to buy now. It has just recently been price cut and it pushes around 30% more pixels than his old card.

Edited October 31, 2013 by Irregular programming

[VanjaB]

I disagree, the 780 is probably the card to buy now. It has just recently been price cut and it pushes around 30% more pixels than his old card.

 

This game is very GPU dependant.

 

 

I run the game with everything on max and get around 50 - 60 fps at all times.

 

Duh. Please read my entire post, we have no idea how EDGE will perform. His CPU might indeed be the bottleneck in the new engine. All Im doing is advising caution and restraint for now.

[Rhinox]

...Wait for EDGE. Its coming by the end of the year...

Oh, really? You working for ED or what? Because until now I never heard anything official concerning EDGE release-date. So I am "a little" surprised you know it already. Maybe if you have so good insider-info, you might tell us more about it...

[VanjaB]

Matt has stated several times that they are pushing for end of the year release of Nevada and EDGE. I cant be bothered to link to the relevant threads but its not that hard to use the search function.

[Scruffy]

Sorry Dudester22, i posted in a hurry and didn't notice this thread was still active. Is it possible to move my posts elsewhere?

 

It's true that the game is CPU heavy but only when compared to other games. Most of which are really easy on the CPU because they don't really need to do any calculations other than getting stuff to show up on the screen.

 

This game is however way more GPU heavy than other games too, mostly because of an older renderer. But also because a flightsim cannot cheat on level geometry like other games. You need to render what is around you, and you need to stream the terrain at 500km/h.

 

Other than that I am not sure I can help you because I don't really know much about AMD cpus other than you should really buy Intel for better performance at the same price. 300 euro could certainly get you a decent card but maybe you should wait until Edge is out to see what kind of performance is needed then.

 

Which card are you using right now?

 

Also, the 770 is about your price range but I would recommend against cheapening out and buying it, it's the same chip as the 680 just overclocked, the 780 would be a much better purchase however more expensive.

 

The 780 is probably the card to buy now. It has just recently been price cut and it pushes around 30% more pixels than his old card.

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Some friends are opting for MSI GTX760 N760 TF 2GD5/OC 2GB DDR5 which is about €250 - 270 localy.

[AtaliaA1]

It's November, I wouldn't purchase anything until the "Holidays". All Vendors and Corporations will be competing for your Dollars soon enough. And as they do newer offerings along with bigger price cuts and Black Fridays will make anyone who purchases now have "Buyer Remorse" for sure.

[Scruffy]

It's November, I wouldn't purchase anything until the "Holidays". All Vendors and Corporations will be competing for your Dollars soon enough. And as they do newer offerings along with bigger price cuts and Black Fridays will make anyone who purchases now have "Buyer Remorse" for sure.

 

That's very wise.

[Dudester22]

@Scruffy - No problem, I think everyone had finished answering my question in anycase.

[Scruffy]

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Edited December 10, 2013 by Scruffy