cichlidfan Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I have a question about this just got a 4k Monitor today don't understand the difference between the DP and HDMI. And can I run a converter from my video cars DVI to DP? My Card: GeForce GTX 780 Ti That card should have a Display Port on it (at least every version I have seen does). Current HDMI will not support 4k @ 60Hz. DP will. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
grant977 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 I will have a closer look then. And for the question above I bought a 4k samsung monitor.
aeliusg Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 And for the question above I bought a 4k samsung monitor. You'll want to use Displayport. HDMI is trapezoidal in shape, whereas Displayport is a rectangle with a corner cut off.
SkateZilla Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) I have a question about this just got a 4k Monitor today don't understand the difference between the DP and HDMI. And can I run a converter from my video cars DVI to DP? My Card: GeForce GTX 780 Ti DisplayPORT was Developed by VESA, and is Royalty free, (where as HDMI is not, requires 10,000 License Fee + $0.10 Per unit (Discount offered for HDMI Logo). Used Primarily for Video, but can also carry Audio, USB, EtherNet and Numerous other Protocols. Developed to Replace VGA and DVI. HDMI has Bandwidth Limitations until the next revision is approved. HDMI and DVI Share the same Video transport protocol ( CEA-861 ), so you can use a HDMI->DVI Cable or HDMI->DVI Adapter without converting the video. Where DisplayPORT must be converted. For 4K, Use Display Port.. It has more bandwidth, uses it's own display timing clock, doesnt have issues with GFX Cards detecting them as HDTVs and Forcing overscan modes. I made the move to All DisplayPort Connections and will never look back. Most GFX Cards from the last 5 years either have 1 Full Size DisplayPort or 2 MiniDisplayPorts side by Side. Edited July 18, 2014 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
skunk160 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) $592 in Walmart right now http://www.walmart.com/ip/35030329?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227024101785&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40084608901&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=70080439261&veh=sem ..........now three of these plugged into my TH2go Edited July 18, 2014 by skunk160 skunk160 | Win10 PRO 64bit | i7-4770K 3.50 GHz | 32GB DDR3/1866MHz | GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1080 x2 | Oculus Rift S | Virpil MongoosT-50CM2 | Virpil F-14B grip | Virpil 200m Curved Extension | PointCTRL | Delta Sim TM Slew | Sim Bandit AHCP | MFG Crosswind Pedals | //FOX2 Switch Boxes | RECARO SPG Seat | AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Transducer x2 //FOXTWO Multi-Role Combat Pit Build http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=134745
cichlidfan Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 $592 in Walmart right now http://www.walmart.com/ip/35030329?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227024101785&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40084608901&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=70080439261&veh=sem ..........now three of these plugged into my TH2go But that is a 1080p monitor, not 4k. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
dooom Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 seriously - how uncomfortable do you find it to sit that close to the monitor for any extended period of time? are you growing any additional lumps on your head as a result yet? ASUS Tuf Gaming Pro x570 / AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ 3.8 / XFX Radeon 6900 XT / 64 GB DDR4 3200 "This was not in the Manual I did not read", cried the Noob" - BMBM, WWIIOL
Sorin Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Yes, DisplayPort is the best so far. But HDMI 2.0 was approved and also there are high end TVs that have it already. It can do 4K 60 Hz. Problem is that there is no video card with HDMI 2.0 yet.
aeliusg Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 seriously - how uncomfortable do you find it to sit that close to the monitor for any extended period of time? are you growing any additional lumps on your head as a result yet? I have mine about 3 feet away. No more disorienting than a triple-wide setup in terms of FOV, actually a bit less with the far more reasonable vertical FOV (as compared to 48:9).
GregP Posted July 20, 2014 Author Posted July 20, 2014 seriously - how uncomfortable do you find it to sit that close to the monitor for any extended period of time? are you growing any additional lumps on your head as a result yet? If you were asking me -- nope, no problem at all. It's basically just like looking at four 1080p monitors stacked together, and feels very natural.
GregP Posted July 20, 2014 Author Posted July 20, 2014 I finally got a up of a startup sequence using the 4K. Note that it has annotations but they only show up on non-mobile devices, so I'd recommend watching on a laptop or PC. Also, like the pictures I posted at the beginning of the thread, the video shows a serious blue tint that is definitely not there when you're sitting in front of it. I have no idea why it shows up in pictures and video.
grant977 Posted July 21, 2014 Posted July 21, 2014 Thanks for the help guys got it working. And my god it's pretty in 4k
rcjonessnp175 Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 4k guys check this out and can you confirm if it works with your tv and list model? Thanks https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/753944/geforce-drivers/official-nvidia-340-43-beta-game-ready-display-driver-feedback-thread-6-17-14-/post/4245249/#4245249 I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
aeliusg Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Doesn't work with any of the Seiki's because they're limited by their own hardware to 30hz at 4K. Any of the name-brand 4K TV's should work however.
HiWay Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 hi Greg, i order 50" 4k Seiki and it come with 4k HDMI cable. Should i order the Seiki SU4KC1 U-Vision Up Converting Cable? like this one http://www.amazon.com/Seiki-SU4KC1-U-Vision-Converting-Cable/dp/B00IE5C6LO/ref=pd_sim_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=14N5WKRH5TFKGX7BJZ91 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win11x64, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti, i5-8600K OC4.5 GHz, 120GB SSD INTEL 530, SAMSUNG SSD 850 EVO 250G, 1TB HDD WD RED, MSI Z370-A PRO, Cougar AQUA 360 CPU cooler, Kingston 2x32GB DDR4 3800MHz, 4K LG 50" Monitor, Meta Quest Pro VR, Orion2 HOTAS MAX,Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals (With Damper Edition), GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT.
aeliusg Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Hello, HiWay. The HD 5850 doesn't support 4K, unfortunately. The upconversion cable is only good for movies and such, because it adds input lag. You want to get a newer video card. In the meantime you can run the 50" Seiki in 1080p at 120 hz. You should be able to select this from the Catalyst Control Center. If not, here is a resource: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1756171 Also, in your TV settings (with remote) turn sharpness to 0. This will make things look much better on the computer. Post again if you need help.
HiWay Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 i got it , thanks. I will replace my 5050 to 290 or 780 (not sure yet). would be one GPU sufficient? do i need 4GB on GPU or one with 3GB will be enough? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win11x64, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti, i5-8600K OC4.5 GHz, 120GB SSD INTEL 530, SAMSUNG SSD 850 EVO 250G, 1TB HDD WD RED, MSI Z370-A PRO, Cougar AQUA 360 CPU cooler, Kingston 2x32GB DDR4 3800MHz, 4K LG 50" Monitor, Meta Quest Pro VR, Orion2 HOTAS MAX,Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals (With Damper Edition), GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT.
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 While the 290s do better at 4K, I'd go with the 780 for DCS, unless you want to wait and see how AMD cards do with DX11/EDGE. 8K Screen Prototypes are shipping :) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
cichlidfan Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 i got it , thanks. I will replace my 5050 to 290 or 780 (not sure yet). would be one GPU sufficient? do i need 4GB on GPU or one with 3GB will be enough? I agree with Skates. As for memory, there are only 3 and 6GB versions of the 780 out there, no 4GB. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I agree with Skates. As for memory, there are only 3 and 6GB versions of the 780 out there, no 4GB. I think he meant 4 GB AMD or 3 GB nVidia Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
aeliusg Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) The R9 290 (not even 290X) has an advantage over the GTX 780 at 4K resolution, but the 780 Ti is superior to both with only 3 GB of memory. If you can wait 2 weeks, I would, for the new GTX 900(reliable sources have indicated that it will indeed be the 900, instead of 800) series. It seems it will be 4GB at least. As SkateZilla and cichlidfan have pointed out, AMD DX9 drivers are underperforming at the moment, but if you need a card now I would go for an R9 290 over a GTX 780 (unless you opt for 6GB and intend to keep this for a long time). Edited September 5, 2014 by aeliusg
rcjonessnp175 Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 Stay away from ati/amd gpus. They dont update their profiles for this game and if you decide to do 3d and forget about the 4k crap you will be much better off with nvidia gpus. As far as a performance stand point two gpus is better know and especially when dcs 2.0 comes out. Especially at 4k, ultrawide res or in 3d.... I would wait for the 900 series from nvidia to drop and get a card with a minimum of 4gb vid memory. Edge will love sli so i would go that route and with nvidia you can use whatever profile you want for sli to find the best performance or make your own profile. AMD shoots themselves in the foot when it comes to this game and not updating their profile arch to work better. Just my thoughts I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
HiWay Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I think he meant 4 GB AMD or 3 GB nVidia the nVidia also have 4GB GPUs http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GDDR5-4GB-WINDFORCE-Graphics-GV-N770OC-4GD/dp/B00CU9GOAO [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win11x64, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti, i5-8600K OC4.5 GHz, 120GB SSD INTEL 530, SAMSUNG SSD 850 EVO 250G, 1TB HDD WD RED, MSI Z370-A PRO, Cougar AQUA 360 CPU cooler, Kingston 2x32GB DDR4 3800MHz, 4K LG 50" Monitor, Meta Quest Pro VR, Orion2 HOTAS MAX,Orion Metal Flight Rudder Pedals (With Damper Edition), GAMETRIX KW-908 JETSEAT.
SkateZilla Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 770 is a 680 re-badge with double the normal 2GB of VRAM, Sorta how AMD has 3GB and 6GB 7970s (R9-280X's). Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
rcjonessnp175 Posted September 5, 2014 Posted September 5, 2014 I use 2x 7704gb in sli work great in 3d and when I was triple screened. I7 4770k @ 4.6, sli 980 evga oc edition, ssdx2, Sony 55 inch edid hack nvidia 3dvision. Volair sim pit, DK2 Oculus Rift.
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