Raf Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Attaching miz. The first unit should become active as soon as the second appears (at T+10sec). It's an uncontrolled craft already present, the second one instead is a late activation one. Triggers activate them both and sets an AI task push 'start' on the uncontrolled one. Works OK in 1.2.6, not in 1.2.7UncontrolledTest.miz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromium Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I think you should post this here : http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=311 ;) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Eh, there isn't a dedicated mission editor section in the open beta forum, so I don't really have a problem with it. An actual moderator might though. :music_whistling: Bug has been reported. Appears to only effect airplanes. Helicopters are able to accept the command without issue. Thanks for the report. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFJFA F1 Team Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 (edited) This problem continue in 1.2.7 release. Edited January 28, 2014 by SAFJFA F1 Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teqqra Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 This still bugged in the release, Please fix it :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Shoulda searched sooner. I stumbled across this problem and searched for any obvious (and not-so-obvious) flawed triggers or broken actions in my mission. Then I created a big test mission where I figured out only fixed-wings seem to be affected (no problems with choppers apparently) - and now I realize this has long been known. In this case, +1 for having it fixed soon. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrking Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) 1.2.7 CA Uncontrolled Aircraft Having a similar problem.. Aircraft that are set as uncontrolled in the mission editor can no longer be used by the GC. Hope this is fixed soon. I have spent many hours making a mission that is dependent on input to uncontrolled aircraft by the GC.. basically the mission that I spent months working on is no longer working as intended due to bugs. I am not happy.. This was working fine in 1.2.6.. :noexpression: *Edit* Also.. Uncontrolled aircraft are still prematurely appear on radar and some even have ECM on whilst powered down and inside hangars.. Its been reported but still no fix. Edited February 7, 2014 by jbrking Su-27 Flanker 1995 Super EF2000 1997 Jane's F/A-18 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Sadly still broken as of 1.2.7 Update 1. Anyone at ED know if it's been fixed internally yet? Fancy trying Star Citizen? Click here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrecking Crew Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I have spent many hours making a mission that is dependent on input to uncontrolled aircraft by the GC.. basically the mission that I spent months working on is no longer working as intended due to bugs. I am not happy.. Yes, I agree. The control panel is right there in the missions. Any Ground Commander should be able to control planes -- or else take out the control panel. I've complained before, but the OP and the 'spent months working' comment really rings true here, so again I say FIX IT. Any GC in SP or MP, Host or Player or Client. Fix it or take it out. Wrecking Crew Visit the Hollo Pointe DCS World server -- an open server with a variety of COOP & H2H missions including Combined Arms. All released missions are available for free download, modification and public hosting, from my Wrecking Crew Projects site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euan3251 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Wow i would of thought this would be a simple easy fix yet still nothing even after .1 update Please guys we love the work but if you need help testing before releasing patches im sure theres lots would love to help with simple points like this( oh wait there are already) --- but when it goes wrong this and cant be fixed for some time even after .1 release wow this is frustrating Im guessing there might be someone whom is good with scripts and code whom might be able to help (Temp Fix) any suggestions?????????????or is it best to keep uninstalling and reverting to previous to enjoy this game to its full potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speacy Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 unacceptable, stop coding with your feet please... since many years we accepted your bug additions at EVERY PATCH!! Bad surprises after bad surprises. Sorry but you are zero, nothing to expect from you! [sIGPIC]http://355th.fr/public/style_images/Speacy.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 unacceptable, stop coding with your feet please... It seems this would be a good time for a quick reminder of 1.10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speacy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Yes, im not a tourist but a customer, i paid 350$ for differents DCS modules, with the hope that work correctly, i use this soft since beta 2 of A-10C (And BS1 before)! My comment isn't profanity, just the truth [sIGPIC]http://355th.fr/public/style_images/Speacy.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurgon Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Yes, im not a tourist but a customer, i paid 350$ for differents DCS modules, with the hope that work correctly, i use this soft since beta 2 of A-10C (And BS1 before)! My comment isn't profanity, just the truth And I'm a customer, too. I, too, wish that bugs get fixed in time and new features get added on a frequent basis. On the other hand, I realize that ED are working in a small team, and it's not like they're leaving bugs unfixed just to punish you or me. Ever since the first Beta of A-10C, ED have constantly added new features, they released DCS World, which was a major feature, they kept and keep on fixing bugs and problems while adding new features, and I imagine they're hard at work with the new terrain and the integration of the terrain into DCS. Ultimately, I guess this is the old "the glass is half full/the glass is half empty" perspective. I disagree with the evaluation of your previous comment, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speacy Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 i know that, but i would prefered a 100% functionnal editor (the most penalising part by bugs) with initial features and, only when its done, adding new features, without deteriorate old features. But i understand your point of view... * Sorry for my english i don't speak very well [sIGPIC]http://355th.fr/public/style_images/Speacy.png[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripenNG Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Have this been reported? The thread in the Open Beta Beta Bug Forum was [CLOSED] without an explanation...and I was pretty much robbed on an three hour flight, because one uncontrolled AI Group did´nt start. Myself and many others would appreciate at least a hint if this have been reported to higher people or not. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Snooze-81st-vFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrking Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This is appalling... Honestly :mad: Su-27 Flanker 1995 Super EF2000 1997 Jane's F/A-18 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrking Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Have this been reported? The thread in the Open Beta Beta Bug Forum was [CLOSED] without an explanation...and I was pretty much robbed on an three hour flight, because one uncontrolled AI Group did´nt start. Myself and many others would appreciate at least a hint if this have been reported to higher people or not. In the open beta most aspects of the CA module worked (for the most part anyway). It seems they managed to break the CA product instead of fix it on release of the patch. I reported several bugs during the open beta (some of which were related to the CA product) but then was told on one thread that reporting It didn't necessarily mean that the bug would be fixed. Do you have a link to this closed thread? Su-27 Flanker 1995 Super EF2000 1997 Jane's F/A-18 1999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Yes it is reported. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomdeplume Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 No mention of the start trigger for planes in the 1.2.8 preliminary changelog. Any of the testers able to see if it's actually been fixed and just not mentioned in the changelog? See also: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=118666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limbo696 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sort of frustrating to see that for one of my first missions I try to to get a parked aircraft to start up and taxi away from the player plane and see that I cannot accomplish this due to a bug. This is a deal breaker for so many missions it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 No mention of the start trigger for planes in the 1.2.8 preliminary changelog. Any of the testers able to see if it's actually been fixed and just not mentioned in the changelog? See also: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=118666 Check the changelog now. :) The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomdeplume Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Check the changelog now. :) Awesomesauce! Thanks, Grimes! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojeaux Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) Awsome;) .. And I'm a customer, too. I, too, wish that bugs get fixed in time and new features get added on a frequent basis. And I don't belong to the hair club! .I spent hours apon hours this wonderful Sunday morning with the idea of what would make a GREAT mission...This miz. depended on AI Infantry to be On after a triggered event! And after of many hours of testing and re-testing scratching the ole brain as to why the trigger would not work!!:doh:...I finialy found this wonderful source of information that I had here at my disposal. It's a great thing to be able to dig in deep and then even deeper to find a post here on this forum that explain reasons why you knew you were not doing something wrong in the ME...OH it was the Editor...and has been for a long time...I see now ...So we will just not be able to make missions that are of depth and quality until this small corner of the editor is fixed... No Problems guys! Thanks and we will see you aroud OK.......ok....by by... Edited April 6, 2014 by Mojeaux [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomdeplume Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Pretty sure this problem only affected fixed-wing aircraft - I think the initial issue was bigger but that was resolved during the open beta period, it just an issue with fixed-wing aircraft not being able to have triggered commands run. Many many missions require activating groups by triggers and they didn't break all of those missions. If you need another pair of eyes on the issue you might like to post in the Mission Builder's Corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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