Intel Haswell or Amd FX-9590 5.0Ghz?

[Dudester22]

I am looking to build a new computer this year and have just seen that Amd are bringing this CPU out - The FX-9590 5.0Ghz. I feel that would be a massive jump on an Intel Haswell CPU. However, I'm not the biggest brains behind CPU's and how the preform, so what do other people think? Will this be an Intel killer when it comes to gaming and Sims like DCS world? I know many Sims rely on the Cpu much more then your average game, so I'm just curious if I would be best waiting for this Amd CPU or going with an Haswell?

[cichlidfan]

Clock speed isn't everything.

[blackbelter]

@OP, what happened to your reputation...

 

Sorry for the digression, but I am curious to see this kind of things... Also, some users are being banned. I wonder why...

[pepin1234]

AMD FX CPU work exelent with DCS WORLD. Mi choice is the FX-9590. It is a gamer CPU and cost only 300 eur, for this Performance is a good Price. Take AMD with a Full AMD Setting for sure.

[snuffles]

for AUD$389, that's a steal for a 4+Ghz processor.

 

Oh yeah, my reputation is bad because I didn't care for Paul Walker's death. Such a lovely community here, somtimes.

[blackbelter]

I see...

[Dudester22]

@OP, what happened to your reputation...

 

Sorry for the digression, but I am curious to see this kind of things... Also, some users are being banned. I wonder why...

 

What the hell? How come I got that reputation? Take a look at my posts what is wrong with them? I never noticed this reputation thing before how does it work?

[MTFDarkEagle]

At the top of the page, press the button "User CP".

 

There is a "tab" labeled "Latest reputation received". If it's not expanded, you can via the arrow to the right of it.

There you can see the most recent rep points received (pos and neg) from other members, based on your postings.

[blackbelter]

@Dudester22, click User CP at the top of the webpage, you can see there you received your reputation for what reasons...

[Dudester22]

@Dudester22, click User CP at the top of the webpage, you can see there you received your reputation for what reasons...

 

All I will say is don't ask a question or post an opinion because someone is going to give you bad rep for the fun of it. The strangest one was because I asked a question about ATC that I didn't know. The funniest one was someone asked what killed him and I joking replied that I thought it was Professor Plum, but I wasn't sure how he did it or where yet. So be careful with the jokes aswell lol.

Edited January 6, 2014 by Dudester22

[blackbelter]

@Dudester22, I see...

 

I just got one negative rep by asking the question in this thread :D

 

Don't take it too seriously, though... People like to judge.

[Dudester22]

@Dudester22, I see...

 

I just got one negative rep by asking the question in this thread :D

 

Don't take it too seriously, though... People like to judge.

 

I actually think it's hilarious.

Edited January 6, 2014 by Dudester22

[HiJack]

I went from AMD 1055T to Haswell 4770K and I am very happy with that decision. CPU is running 4.2GHz and normal working temp at 28-30 degrees after a minor upgrade to 4 new noctura fan’s. I have yet to monitor the temp after the fan upgrade but they did not pick up much speed when playing online. You can see my PC spec in the signature. Make sure you buy some good RAM!

[Gerg]

Go with Intel if you are going to spend loads on a cpu.

 

Even intel dual core i3 running 30% less speed beats 8 core AMD in almost all games.

 

AMD have about 1/2 the ipc of Intel cores so would be better buying a cpu with 4 fast cores rather than 8 slower cores. This makes lots of difference in games considering most (still) only really support 1 or 2 cores.

 

AMD also use about 2x the power to get slower results and while running at a higher speed, more noise and heat to deal with.

[SkateZilla]

it's not the CPU's Frequency, it's the IPC Rating.

 

Haswell i5's and i7's all blow away the AMD FX CPU's, even the 5Ghz ones, In IPC.

 

For DCS IPC is more important since it only uses 2 threads.

 

AMD Has a Slight Advantage in Heavily threaded Applications, Which DCS is NOT one of them.

AMD Uses more Power

AMD FX-95xx CPUs are just High Binned FX8350s, Everyone I know that Bought an FX8350 was able to hit 4.8Ghz, and a majority 5.0Ghz.

Overclocked FX8350s perform better than FX95xx CPUs due to overclocking other parts of the CPU, and not just upping the Multiplier.

 

For DCS, Intel has the Deciding and Distinct Advantage in IPC.

Edited January 7, 2014 by SkateZilla

[pepin1234]

it's not the CPU's Frequency, it's the IPC Rating.

 

Haswell i5's and i7's all blow away the AMD FX CPU's, even the 5Ghz ones, In IPC.

 

For DCS IPC is more important since it only uses 2 threads.

 

AMD Has a Slight Advantage in Heavily threaded Applications, Which DCS is NOT one of them.

AMD Uses more Power

AMD FX-95xx CPUs are just High Binned FX8350s, Everyone I know that Bought an FX8350 was able to hit 4.8Ghz, and a majority 5.0Ghz.

Overclocked FX8350s perform better than FX95xx CPUs due to overclocking other parts of the CPU, and not just upping the Multiplier.

 

For DCS, Intel has the Deciding and Distinct Advantage in IPC.

 

 

Sorry but in the real life I have playing with AMD FX while some of my friend with a i7 get a lot of lag and low fps. So is something extra that Intel cant do better.

[danilop]

Gaming rig = Haswell.

 

You are going to have sizable power draw from graphics card(s) and you probably want to OC CPU. The less power drawn by CPU, the better. Haswell is the most power efficient design yet. And it's faster than AMD in gaming.

 

Non debatable really.

[SkateZilla]

Sorry but in the real life I have playing with AMD FX while some of my friend with a i7 get a lot of lag and low fps. So is something extra that Intel cant do better.

 

I can tell you with 100% Certainty, that Intel's iSeries has a 30-50% IPC Advantage over AMD FX Processors. It's not an Assumption, it's not a Guess, there's Data Everywhere to back that up.

 

DCS Being a 2 Thread (1 General Thread + 1 XAudio Thread), Higher IPC is Important.

 

AMD Chips Have Shared Resources Per Module, which slows stuff down, not to mention the XXXXX-Misses (Cache, FPU, Pre-Fetch etc) from the un-optimized architecture.

 

AMD Cannot Compete with Intel in Pure Power. Which is why AM3 Support is ending, and AM4 Development is on Hold. AMD is Focusing on FM2+ which is for APUs; ie HTPCs, Low Power Gaming Laptops, etc. Not High performance rigs.

 

Even at 5.15GHz with FSB/HTT/MP Tweaks to Maximize my CPU Efficiency to be in the Top 5% Worldwide on benchmarks, My Teammate's Intel System Runs at 4 GHz and easily beats my AMD CPU Score, using 33% Less Power and Putting out 55% Less TDP using the Entire CPU, similar results when Using one Maxed out Core.

 

I Stick with my FX CPU because it's cheaper and for Video Editing and CAD Rendering the 8 Integer Cores Actually work faster than Intel's 4 or 6, (or 8/12 with HT Enabled.) Not to mention AM3+ Mainboards are Cheaper.

[Rhinox]

...AMD Chips Have Shared Resources Per Module, which slows stuff down, not to mention the XXXXX-Misses (Cache, FPU, Pre-Fetch etc) from the un-optimized architecture...

 

This is not always disadvantage. Having shared cache or RAM makes swapping process from one cpu/core to the other (which is done always, unless you prevent it by setting cpu/core-affinity) faster and without stutters caused by delays due to moving cache content from one cpu-cache to the other, or from one RAM memory bank to the other (i.e. in case of NUMA).

 

Otherwise I fully agree. As of now, Intel seems to be better choice for gaming (at least for games that depend on cpu). It really does have higher per-core pure power, even with lower frequency...

[camsr]

I did some googling and as it turns out the FX9590 single-thread performance is somewhat low compared to the i7-4770.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

I think you need to weigh your computing priorities before making the decision.

Both will do well to run DCS at reasonably good quality, but the parallel performance (multitasking at least) of the FX9590 might be a better option for you.

Overall I would decide on the processor/mobo combo which would guarantee the highest memory throughput for shear framerate.

[SkateZilla]

considering there's about 30+ Intel CPU's Above it on the Single Thread IPC List that are Cheaper. lol

 

And about 116 CPUs Above it overall.