JEFX

Pilotasso, I just got this card too (which vendor, version of it did you get? I have the XFX black edition, slightly overclocked) and for me it is great! I bought it to drive my new TH2Go setup (see thread : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=31499) and I could compare the difference between my previous 7950X2 and this monster and it did make a big difference. What version of the driver do you have now and where did you get it? One very important thing, for me at least, is that it is impossible to play with heat blur on... I was so discouraged when I got it at first because I was in the area of 8 FPS and I was ready to throw myself down the bridge (joking...) when I looked at the little counter in the upper left corner when you hit the key for showing FPS a second time... And LO all the power was going there... I turned it off and it rocks now. This is strange because for me this method cured both the clouds and the MFD flicker at the same time... I think such graphics power helps with graphics issues (such as displaying 3840X1028 like I have now, when FPS increase comes from a combination of graphics power and CPU bottleneck as we all know now since the first days of Lockon... (you might change your CPU after all :D) JEFX

Hi ggg Thanks for all those precisions! I tried your graphics settings and it does not work for me. When I set the numbers like you quoted, the game does not even want to start:( I think you are right about the roundess of gauges at 3.75 but I dont really have time to experiment a lot right now. Yes, it unfortunately looses those inches (one on each side) but once I fire up a mission, I forget totally about it. I still have to do some more experiment on multiplayer... I have flown both A-10 and SU-33 in multiplayer and it was fine (but I play around with the zoom a lot, therefore I cannot say really...)

Esac Look here : http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/technology/grnd_new_airports_map_big.jpg You can extrapolate easily.

Ah ben là là...That is a nice suprise!

Hi ggg It does not change the angles that are pertinent to TH2go (those that one has to edit for the thing to work) because I have played online with it and everything was normal. As bezel management is concerned, you are right, lines really should line up (such as horizon) but even with their software that allows to ajust it very finely and precisely, you lose an inch on both sides to achieve it. You can have an app. that is windowed and when you double click on its title bar it maximizes to that one screen (really neat). Finally last night I did try and I thought it made no difference (???) Perhaps I thought I had a little bit more zoom out? Anyhow, I had great FPS, going through a battle with lots of explosions over populated area (like the screenshot at the top of the post) and having 40 FPS throughout. cheers

ggg87, No, the server overrides your choices of external or not and so on but not your snapviews and zoom angles. I have personnaly experienced LOFC on hyperlobby with all my settings and it works flawlessly (despite the fact that there is not much going on there... friday night at midnight eastern time here, there were 3 people altogether, shooting at each other... but that would be the subject of another post...) Do you mean that you use TH2Go without their desktop management software and bezel management? You need them at lest to specify what resolution you want the thing to work in? Their last version released a few days ago allows new (wider) resolutions. The real advantages of the software could be at least for some games because they have that game management software with all sorts of tips and how-tos to make games work with it unfortunately, (as Ratcatcher pointed out) one should not use it with LOFC. One thing that I do use the most and it is a MUST in my opinion is their Bezel management software that allows the user to adjust the leftmost and the rightmost image and push them inside so that lines match with the middle screen, despite the width of the bezels. That makes a tremendous difference in the impression of them not being there. The other thing is the managing of opening programs on which screen, You can choose the screen on which you want programs to open. At first I had the middle screen do that and it sounded logical but then I had a problem with X-Plane 9 that would open, even in 3840X1024 on the middle screen and stretch only on the right screen, ignoring totally the left one. I solved the problem by assigning the left one as the starting screen and LO! it then stretched X-plane through the whole thing.

Triplehead2go is an electronic device that actually splits the ONE outpout from the videocard in 3 separate outpouts that make in reality only one image. If your monitors are native 19' LCD they are usually 1280x1024@60Hz native and if you instruct TH2Go (via its software that comes with it) that you want one desktop made of 3x that resolution it is going to do actually ONE 3840x1024 large image. There is one input and 3 outpout on the box... http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/th2go/specs/

Hitman No problem, give me an email address and I will send it to you. I have it in original format 1600x1067 .jpg (around 850k) or in 3840x1060 (photoshop trimmed for my widescreen wallpaper needs) also in .jpg and around 600k. If you want better quality but really more heavy I do have it in .bmp format but at a weight of 15 meg.

Hi all. Since I posted in the tech section about my new TH2Go set-up, I received a pm yesterday from JimMack (ED team) who suggested me to post this type of how-to for the benefit of all. First I must say that those who found really how to do are Joe, ggg87 and Teka Teka, summed up by Ratcatcher. I didnt find anything, just applied it succesfully! (see at the end of post for detailed instructions) Here is the final product : or my own loading screen in 3840x1024 Now, in order to use Matrox TripleHead2Go in those very wide resolutions with LOFC one has to fix a few things in various config and .lua files. It is really simple but one has to know what to do. There still remains one unsolvalbe problem, with the actual LOFC code, it is not possible to play at 3840x1024 and zoom out very much. You end up naturally zoomed in with your nose in the windshield and you need to manually zoom out at the start of every mission. The drawback is that, even with a great comp and graphics card, when played zoomed out all the way, with the demands of such resolution, your FPS will drop dramatically. As pointed already by several others, the way to go is to zoom out all the way and then zoom back in a little until you get a good balance between being confortable and having a good fluidity. The other aspect is that playing a simulator on a TH2Go setup is a totally different experience than anything I had seen, even on a big monitor. It takes some time getting used to it : 1) you are much more zoomed in therefore all the details, either from the cockpit or from the outside world become MUCH bigger (and in my opinion much closer to reality). For example, even if you only see a small photo here, in my first picture, the HUD of the A-10 is 6x5 inches onscreen and the VVI has a diameter of almost 2 inches and still, there is a bit less than ONE FOOT of scenery on both sides of the cockpit!!!!!!!:D 2) Your field of vision becomes much bigger BUT much more horizontal (3 screens wide, only one high : some may like it or not...) which means that you will play around with your y view axix much more searching the skies for ennemies (especially looking up). 3) It is almost compulsory, in my opinion, to play this kind of setup with Trackir because of the increasing space to look at... I had to ajust my curves to accelerate my head motion in the up direction very much. I would recommend not using the Z axis with this because of the zoom problem mentionned above. 4) Because of the zoomed in problem, there is no way to see the full HUD and the instruments at the same time (as I always did before, since the first days of Flacon and then Lockon...). My solution was to set up a very sophisticated set of snapviews for each cockpit and program a direct link for each of then in the HAT of my Joystick, therefore I can look at the radar of my F-15 or the RWR of my MIG or the TV of my maverick very very quickly and come back to the normal moving Track IR view with the press of one button... 5) It is easy to replace the awful looking loading screen with a photo of your choice in 3840x1024 but harder to do so for the individual loading screens for each airplanes, since they are in .dds formal (which requires a special program), but possible. On the other hand, there is nothing to do about the GUI which looks really bad and stretched (but who cares? who really spends any time in the GUI?) 6) the map is another problem, though, since it is not only stretched very large (and one has to travel a lot with the mouse to perform all commands of the editor since one has to choose say a aircraft on the left side and then put its parameters on the right side) but also it is deformed where horizontal distances dont geometrically equal vertical distances (but I got used to it). But... Once you get through paying for it...:cry: and setting it up correctly, once you forget about stretched GUI and splashscreens, once you have your TrackIR curves accelerated to help your view move around, once you have all your snapviews programmed to help you focus instantaneously on the instruments that you need, then... you fire up a mission and you end up flying amost for real... the sky is really big, the details fo the runway, the lights of the cities at night, the rolling forests and mountains are magnificent and you fly through smoke and explosions and still have the rest of the landscape on both sides... it is amazing and compares to nothing I have experienced short of being in a real aircraft (sorry I have never flown an F-15 bot still, a nice little Katana with a bubble canopy, unfortunatly at 100 knots, is really nice:):) And you can also enjoy all the extra desktop space for all other computer things and programs... You can drag things all over the place and really have lots of opened windows at once... Here is a screenshot taken directly in 3840x1024... it was a really bad night... Imagine this with almost 4 feet of viewing... Cheers:smilewink: JEFX ------------------------- Detailed instructions to set up the config and lua files for TH2Go as summed up for me by RATCATCHER (thanks to him!)

Well Vekk. knowing all the parts it is easy to calculate. The answer is YES but hell, you get to be 50 only once... I work like crazy with huge responsabilities and my favorite well-deserved pressure-valve is taking off with my beloved Frog in a crosswind and fly over the amazingly detailed FC environment. Now the best thing that a set-up like that brings is the feeling of immersion, of being there, because all the details become so realistically big! Anyways, I guess where one puts his money is a question of priorities... A few (...) years ago I certainly could not have afforded it, but this was a good year for me. I hope nobody thinks here that I posted this setup to showoff... The reason I did it was firstly to share, and also to inform those who, like me a few months ago looking at ggg's original post on the topic, might consider moving gradually towards such a set-up. Digital Flat screens are getting cheaper every day (and there are hundreds of models of various quality with new widescreen 19 inches for less than 200$) and the TH2Go thingy itself is not so so expensive (around 300$). For me the biggest expense was the graphics card (and PSU) to drive it, but I can see that many people here have much newer comps than me with ample graphic power to drive such a setup. Then it is just a question of buying the 3 screens and the matrox digital splitter. One doesnt even have to buy a support (that is a bit overpriced) because the 3 monitors can stand on their own original stands. For someone with a good comp and a recent graphics card I would say that a TH2Go setup is around 1000$. Matrox just released a few days ago its new firmware that allows resolution with 3x1440x900 widescreen !

Hey T.E.C! Just noticed : you live in Québec or Montréal? French or english? Nice to see a Quebecois here!

Thanks ggg but when I tried it I already did look on the tbuddy site and I thought I had done it right but no luck... What is the specific thread? or post about it (most recent, since there seems to have been a couple of versions?) that would be great indeed! Vekkinho, my new monitors are Samsung 943BX 19 inches, 1000:1 5ms, DVI LCD black (x3) with a LX triple display lift stand from Ergotron.

No I havent. My 3 new Samsung monitors are native 1280x1024.

ggg I am glad you asked because I was not so successful in setting LOVP with Tbuddy. I have used touch-buddy and I love it. At first I was using it with a small touch-screen but it died recently. Then I was able to make TB work in network mode on my work-laptop but could never make LOVP to function. Dare I ask you : :smartass:can you describe the procedure Step-by-step to make it work (which files to download, which versions, what to change in the config file, etc? please, I might give it another go, especially with the zoomed in problem, when it is not possible to see the view forward AND all the dials at the same time!) Thanks

By the way, I didnt answer your question Vekk. (if it was serious), but one of the limitations of that kind of setup is that you end up pretty much zoomed in, even at max zoom out... It is a small problem that is part of the LOFC software. (I dont really find it a problem, but let's say that you have to use your snapviews a lot in order to watch your instruments all the time, because there is no way to look at the HUD and at your instruments at the same time). So... NO I dont use the zoom feature of TrackIR... cheers JEFX

HAHAHA , Vekk. thats one of the best ones I got for my birthday!:lol: Thanks! T.E.C.-Leader, that gives you something to look forward! Life is great, isnt it. I believe we were born at a great moment of simulation happiness! ;) Crazy cannuck, You better dont call it the war department or you will end up without it... Maybe the diplomacy department? Anyway, maybe in 5 years it will be called dodecahead2Go driving 12 giant rollup supple flat screens... Thanks for the encouragements, guys. One of the reasons I posted this picture is because if anyone is interested, here are some links and help. I got this (perhaps a bit expensive) present, pretty much because of ggg's original post! It's his fault! The minute I read it, I wanted one (like a baby!). Thanks ggg JEFX

Hey BRD Glad you dug those threads out... I was going to answer myself but had lost where they were hiding in the forums... (BTW, you got my answer about the graphics card 9800GX2 ?) amitiés JEFX

EFCrazy I am glad it did help some! I am really happy that thousands of people have read it, because the modes deserve it. I am only sad I have not had the time time to update it because it already dates... well, if I have the time in the future I will update it... Too much work right now... cheers JEFX

Thanks all! sometimes, age is not such a bad thing:)

Markdude, do you have TrackIR? if not this is THE most incredible immersion factor you can have. Do you have a HOTAS also? JEFX

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You might be good with 850W since you have the right connectors. I am no tech here. I am sure that you can find the exact energy consumption of the card somewhere on the net (Tom's hardware maybe?). JEFX

Pilotasso, It is difficult to tell exactly the improvement because at the same time that I changed my card (from a 7950X2), I also went from a 21'' CRT in 1600X1200 to a TH2Go setup with 3840X1024, which my old card could not handle very well... All I can say is that it did an amazing improvement with the new setup. (like going from as low as 7 FPS on takeoff at AirBases to 30ish FPS). Be warned though that you might have to change your PSU. I had a 600 Watts and it was definitely not enough. I dont know about the 800 that you have. You need a PSU with both a 6 pin plug AND a more recent 8 pin PCI plug. It really works great (it makes quite some noise though, but I still love it because I can really enjoy seemless motion, even through dark smoke and explosions.) Here is a really deep review of the card on Widescreengamingforum : http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php/NVIDIA_GeForce_9800GX2_Review hope this helps, keep us posted! You can see my post about my new setup here : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=513139#post513139 :D:D:D JEFX

Just a quick message to tell you all how amazing Flaming cliffs looks with TH2Go! After reading a lot here (our forum) and there (including the excellent forum on widescreengamingforum.com), reviews of hardware, graphics cards, etc, I decided to give myself a proper 50th birthday present and went ahead with buying TH2Go with 3 monitors and a new graphics card. My computer is average good with a Core2Duo E6600 (2.4Ghz) and 2 Gigs of DDR2 memory, and previously I had a nVidia 7950X2 card. When I plugged my 3 new Samsung 19'' flat pannels in through the TripleHead2Go digital edition recently arrived, the FPS were disastrous. I ordered then a new XFX Black edition (slightly overclocked) of the great 9800GX2 card and now everything is fantastic. I get FPS around 20 to 30 on the airbases or above cities flying low, or with dozens of explosions going around and of course, if I fly high, or above water, it can go as high as 200. Anyways, for me, the FPS is one thing but more important is the impression of fluidity without discontinuity... Which is what I do get now. The image is so big now with 3840x1024 that it fills one's vision and even if things are a bit too zoomed in, it is OK because it looks much more realistic (with dials being big like real ones, and trees and details pretty big in the hud). The feeling of everything being more real because bigger was my greatest surprise. It requires quite a bit of fiddling to make it work properly. I was lucky to be nicely helped by a few people including RATCATCHER who really summed up all the previous discussions about it here : http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=491571&postcount=59 Most of this info comes from ggg87 and TekaTeka, thanks to them. Here is the original full thread on the problem by ggg87 : http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=17306 Here is a thread that is informative on the Widescreengaming forum : http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4374 and yet another one : http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16713&highlight=lockon#16713 Finally, for those who dont know about it, here is a detailed review of the Matrox TH2GO: http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/index.php/Matrox_TripleHead2Go_Digital_Edition_%28Featured_Review%29 Together with a good HOTAS and most definitely TrackIR4, it is the most immersive simulator experience! (looking forward to BS with this!) JEFX (less young but more happy:D)

@ _-Phoenix_- Thanks a lot, you just made me solve my problem. I just got recently that amazing nvidia geforce 9800 GX2 black edition from XFX and it is just fantastic. My only problem was the flicker (clouds, canopy and MFD). I just put force alternate frame rendering1 in the nVidia control pannel for LOCKON specifically and the problem just vanished! Thanks! JEFX