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Sorry, blue on blue. But I disagree that we need a 2000-5/9/Mk2 at all cost, what we need is a timer which would put those A-C on par with each other in the frame of their respective capabilities of the time for specific scenarios, today 2000C don't even have a BVR missile. The 2000C-RDI is perfectly competitive when it comes to BVR capabilities for the time, even if persistence (number of weapons) is lower. As for the -5/9/Mk2 you'll have to wait until they are declassified by foreign customers to have semi-accurate datas, it's DGA policies.

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Sorry you're talking B.S, only the first 37 2000 had this radar and were upgraded with modifications to their inlets in order to take the M53 P2 as well, service entry of the 2000 is officialy summer 1983. https://www.defense.gouv.fr/air/moyens/avions-de-chasse/mirage-2000-c The 530D was in service before the F-16 Block 25 and to do so had to be equiped with the new RDI radar in the first place. Same here, you compare aircraft which are not within the same time frame, as I said, the 2000 was BVR capable well before the introduction of the F-16 Block 25, be it with the F or D model. If you put them back to this context your F-16/18 would be limited to AIM-9, that's a FACT. This is a game but you all try to play "accuracy" and completely forget the real capabilities of those aircrafts within their respective service history, even so, the F-16 Block 25 would equiped with AIM-7, the 530D had snap up performances superior to those models of AIM-7. Then if you want to talk accuracy, ask yourself why the transonic issues with assymetric load of the F-16 is not simulated in this game. You don't have a valid argument here. Here is an intercept profile for the 530F. I suggest you inform yourself before posting stuff like this...

Because according to you, the 530D is not a BVR missile? The 2000 was BVR capable before the AIM-7 was integrated to the Block25 or the Hornet, in the frame of a scenario put back in the context of their respective service lives, the two US aircrafts would be limited to AIM-9s, the F-16 Block 25 didn't become fully operational before October of 1988, by then the 2000 was already equiped with the 530D.

It would be interestingto know what RAM you had before and after the upgrade, but as a thumb rule, 16GB is marginal. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/stable/

Things that are more relevant than the RAM capacity are: O.S settings, such as the number of apps running in the background while gaming. Paging files, size and location. Boundind CPU-RAM: Latency? Frequency? Chips material? Number of sticks and number of ranks per stick? All of this determines the efficiency of your RAM, you can have 32GB of RAM running at 3200GHz paired with a Ryzen 5000 making a better job of high load than 64GB of Cl16 for many reasons, but first of all, a Cl14 kit will be B.die with tighter timings, one rank per stick, if 4 X sticks your CPU will use interleaving as well and your CPU will run at higher load, meaning data will be recycled faster so you won't need as much capacity for the same amount of data. If you use 4 X 2 ranks your CPU will throttle back under load. so your the channel will run slower and since your RAM will process less data, you'll feel like you don't have enough RAM capacity, same for Cl16 running at 3600GHz, under load it will slow the whole system down starting by the CPU. Updating to DDR5 doesn't mean you will experience such huge gains, you need to bound your RAM to your CPU, increasing one aspect or the other doesn't necessarily work best, it's not the type of RAM (DDR4/5) which will make the difference, it's the timings your RAM can provide your CPU controller with... Your CPU controller has limits, generally for non-B.die chips it's 3200Mhz and 4 ranks in total. If you want to go around those limitations, you need to allow your CPU to work with tighter timings and that's mean B.Die chips.

Well in that case it's all gain for you. If you use an AMD of the last generation, your CPU will stay performant at a higher level of load, for Intel I am only sure of one thing, those kits can be used to O.C them as was the case for the previous serie of AMD processors because they posses this B.Die Material and have tighter timings available. But at the end of the day, it is everyone own choice, some people don't have the budget or don't want to use those kits because they don't see the advantage of using them but since they offer more performances than O.Cing the 5600X with liquid cooling or using the next CPU on the AMD lader with non B.Die Cl6 kit, it make sense if you are looking for performances. Players who are limited by their budget can of course look at increasing the amount of RAM they have but there are catches as well, since RAM manufacturers can use different chips from batch to batch even for the same RAM kit model, one can end up with systems that doesn't want to boot and we already seen a case like this in this forum So if one wants to increase RAM capabcity, the best way to do so is to buy a kit with double the capacity they have, if they just add a couple of sticks they take the risks of malfunctions. See below Eurotech Customer Support email to one of my request for information.

That's your choice, perhaps you prefer running a faster (and more expensive) GPU and Cl16 with this bottleneck and not been able to get the same results at 4K, I personally optimized my PC in view to use VR at this sort of resolution, so even a Ryzen 7 5800X with non B.Die RAM wouldn't do, in fact it would run slower, I chose to get the performances I needed, my cost were cut at other levels. Best example is the fact that I use a Motherboard one can buy below £70 that give me the same performances than some twice as expensive but without making my coffee in the morning, a £19 Artic Freezer 7X for cooling good enough to keep the CPU below 76°C under the most demanding tests and benchmarks including CPU-Z running all cores at 4593.96MHz. So at the end of the day, it's your choice but facts can't be denied, if one wants to optimize their PC for performances and running at higher resolutions, the best solution are the B.Die kits.

Not saying it doesn't come with a premium but it sure come with a significant increase in CPU performance, it's a matter of choice, some might prefer O.Cing their CPU but the best they can get even with liquid cooling is still half than what a Cl14 3200MHz B.Die kit gives you at 4K. I'm not saying people should get this sort of RAM kits, I'm saying that there are different solutions and that it is a matter of personal preferences. Still, I was told by MSI support very clearly that for performances, the B.die kits have no equal especially if one plays games such as DCS which have a heavy load, more to the point, since the Ryzen 5600X make good use of lower latency, using it like an Intel CPU with higher frequencies or larger capacities can be counter-productive. Well actually, looking at the performances of a Ryzen 7 5800X, you'd be better off with this solution and running a 5600X without bottleneck, at the end of the day, with -6.04% under load, the 5800X will be slower if fitted with Cl16 non B.die RAM, <> 3.87% at 4K X 2 MSAA. They share the same architecture and controlers, they have the same plus and minus, the plus is the architecture and use of low latency but you need a B.Die kit to make full use of it. Having said that, it is not about the ultimate frequencies obtainable by those CPUs but that obtainable under load, when their controllers will throttle back, so one might well get the full CPU speed from a Ryzen 7 5800, but with a non B.Die Cl16, under load, the CPU will throttle back and limit its frequency all the same. The under load bit is the most important because if you're doing secretary work you don't need B.Die but as much RAM capacity as possible, while if you play DCS where the RAM load is way superior, at some point, your non B.Die Cl16 RAM will hit its ceilling 6.04& sooner on its frequency scale.

Now, if I may share my little experience to give a wider insight on the subject: To me it is a little bit of a false issue/subject, simply because those RAM kits cannot really be compared, they make good, selling Youtube videos but little more than this, the main thing here are Chips materials (B.die) and timing available to the CPU controller. The rest depends on your CPU (Intel or AMD and their generations), and good RAM-to-CPU bounding makes all the difference. Before I upgraded to the G.Skill kit, I used a Crucial "Gaming" Cl16 3200MHz 2 X 2 ranks 2X 16GB kit. After watching a video while waiting for my G.Skill kit, I decided to try to O.C my RAM to 3600MHz using DRAM-Calculator-for-Ryzen, probably the best tool for the purpose, the results were rather disapointing: When it would boot (depending on timings tried), it would either crash during the test (3D Mark Fire Strike Ultra, 4K 2X MSAA) or run just over 1% slower than at normal timings and 3200MHz. CPU was the same 5600X that I am using today. So at the end of the day, one should always do some thorough homework to figure which RAM kit will be the best bound for his CPU, there is no point fitting 64GB of Cl16 3600MHz if you're after performances, chances are you're going to run slower under load than with 32GB of Cl14 3200MHz especially playing DCS where load is the issue, your CPU will throttle back. That's the main isse with CPUs, their controllers only can cope with extreme load under precise and controled circumstances, that is 4 X ranks and 3200MHz for non-bi-die RAM kits, if you want to go over this bootleneck, you need a B.die kit. Those who have the budget and are willing to run higher frequencies can always go for a 3600MHz Cl14 kit, there will be a gain of course but this is only because the Cl14 kits are B.Die and posseses the right range of timing, allowing the CPU controller to cope with the load, without them you'll loose in performance or experience crashes.

See above for the first part, second part, I agree with, 16GB is marginal even with super-fast/low latency RAM kits, but 32GB is enough if you run a Cl14 kit.

RAM is not only used by the games. There are ways to optimize the amount of RAM avaiable for gaming, starting by uninstalling/disabling every single app running in the backgroud that you don't use, allocating paging files to windows on a different disk, typically twice the size of your RAM, and maintaining your temp and superfetch folders (Run/%temp% and Run/temp%). Those who optimize their P.Cs for gaming don't feel the need for more than 32GB, 64GB is an overkill for any game at the moment, but I can't pronounce myself on a 16GB RAM kit even this fast. Your g.Skill Trident Z should have been running at 3200MHz without any issues. How to Overclock RAM Then there is the little matter of your CPU, because Intel and AMD doesn't make use of the RAM the same way, Intel are more like the old AMD, depending more on frequencies than latency, while the last generation of AMD, starting with the 5000, uses lower latencies very well, with a considerable gain obtainable when bounded with B.Die RAM due to tighter timings. Consider this: Your PC is like a sport car, you need to service it and when you fit new parts, fine tune it so it can run as it is designed to.

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The 3600X could already run at 3200MHz, but I noticed an increase in performances of 21% running the same test with the 5600X, it is a very good gaming processor, I think you won't regret it, if I were you, depending on the budget and availability I would go for a Ti, it would reduce the GPU bootleneck further and help with frame rate, it will do just fine until the next generation upgrade. If not possible, a 3080 will be good anyway.

And yet they chose this one for their example, it's enough for me, plus I've been asking players in diverse MSI and AMD forums what they were using before contacting supports from MSI, AMD and G.skill. Since he is planning on using a 3080 CPU, a 5600X with a Cl14 B.die RAM kit will be a very good match, even a Ti since the 3.7% bootleneck is a GPU bootleneck. No need for a 5900x. This looks like the best solution to me, especially since I am planning myself to get a 3080Ti to play VR at 4K and I know that my CPU-RAM solution is up to the task. Anyway, at the end of the day, it's up to every individual to make their own choice and we can only suggest solution but this one is tested and yourself know the benefit of a B.Die Cl14 kit, even if you chose to O.C yours, you wouldn't have been able to do it with a non-B.Die kit.

FACT i : You use a B.die kit which you can O.C and I have the proof and provided with the data, I would get similar results if I did O.C my kit at 3600MHz simply because those kits have the right range of timing to do so, looks like you missed some serious studies on the subject, in my case, I upgraded from a non-B.Die kit and I explained clearly what the difference was. More to it, Intel technicians are using exactly the same G.skill kit than mine for O.C their RAM and I also already have been explaining the reaons why and how. So, to your benefit I'll reiterate: Controllers have limitations due to number of ranks and lfrequency and for all Ryzen of this generation the recommanded frequency is 3200MHz, this is simply because they assume that the average user is not going to pay a premium for a B.Die kit and therefore woun't be able to provide the CPU with the right timings. As a matter of fact, the day I tried to O.C my old RAM kit to 3600 MHz (Crucial 2x16GB DDR4-3200 Cl16), I lost about <> 1% in the same test at the same settings. How to Overclock RAM. B.Die have been used by previous generations of Intel and AMD players alike precisely for this reason, they both were relying more on higher frequencies for performances but this cannot be achieved with non-B.Die kit which is the reason for my system to gain 6.04% at 4K. Please read carefully before replying. Cheers. Oh, I forgot to mention, by O.Cing your RAM, you also lost your warranty, which is the reason why I didn't and am more than happy with the gain I got already. MSI UK Tech Support Fri, 29 Jan at 11:50

According to the title of your topic, you're looking at RTX 3080 & Ryzen9 5900x, this would take care of one bottlenecks you would have by upgrading your GPU only but from my PoV, it is also an overkill when it comes to the CPU. If you run Bottleneck Calculator you'll figure that a 5600X would do you just fine, the Ryzen9 5900x will give you little gain when it comes to FPS especially if you don't take care of your RAM. Bottleneck Calculator. Ryzen 5600X GTX 3080 Better upgrading to a Cl14 4 X 1 rank 3200MHz B.Die kit which will give you an extra 6%+ (6.04% in my case) headroom at 4K (where the CPU would throttle down under load because of controller limitation). Controllers are limited to a maximum number of ranks (4) and frequency (3200MHz), but the Ryzen 5 5600X (and all new AMD GPUs) take advantage of lower latency a lot more than relying on higher frequencies, so there is no point in fitting 3600MHz if your sticks are 2 X ranks Cl16, your CPU will still see the same limits under load. I recommand a B.die kit, this material is a lot more stable and the chips made of it allows for a much tighter timings than non B.Die RAM, this garanty that your RAM will be capable to run under the optimum settings which Cl16 doesn't allow for. B-Die Finder Of course there is a premium coming with this sort of RAM quality, but here are the advantages: No need to O.C your CPU, I gained 6.04% in CPU speed and 1.33% in GPU speed due to the fact that there is no longer any bottleneck in those channels (RAM-to-CPU or CPU-toGPU) and your system will keep running at a higher percentage of load, which is what you want with a ga,e like DCS, 6.04% is more than double what you can expect by O.Cing your CPU with a water cooling kit in average, during those tests, my CPU never went over 76°C and I only have a cheap Artic Freezer 7X air cooler. Without even taking this into account, pitted with a 3080, my 5600X has only an average bottleneck percentage: 3.47% (GPU bottleneck), meaning it easily can cope with load even with a Ti since the high average is 10% at 4K and the bootleneck source is the GPU, that's before you use boost as well. You don't need more than 32 GB of RAM. Your RAM will reprocess data a lot faster than 64GB of Cl16. Your 5600X will cost you <> £197.00+ less than a Ryzen 9 5900X which will still be limited under load since they all share the same controller, from my PoV, it makes no sense to fit a 5900X and keep the RAM bootleneck with it, better spend the difference in a higher quality RAM kit and solve the issue from day one, you won't have any bottleneck at all, not with the RAM, not with the GPU at 4K. Hope this help.

The "Next" generation VR headsets is already for sale, if you have 2000 quids+ to splash at them, note that prices are likely to go down as the actual Crisis recess in the (hopefuly near) future. For the time being, I'm sticking to my 1080Ti. https://aero.varjo.com/product/varjo-aero/ A 5600X seems to fill the bill perfectly, now we have to look at something like an RTX 2080 or 3070 for GPU, that's up to £1,700.00...

As I said, it's touch and go. I had my good and bad experiences while updating drivers, one tool I use to avoid this is Display Driver Uninstaller (DDU) which cleans the drivers directory in safe mod before you perform a fresh instalation in Windows. It doesn't solve the issue caused by anything loged in the VRAM istelf nor the result of a bad Windows update or corrupted drivers files. Display Driver Uninstaller Download

There are viruses which embed themselves in VRAM after updates, it's lotery and cannot be solved with antiviruses. So for some a change of driver is a must, my tip if your system is stable do not update Windows or drivers.

Check your case venting and internal temperature. If you want your internals to cool, you need the most efficient case cooling possible, and room temperature plays a role in this too. I use a set of NOCTUA NF-F12 120mm, one for exhaust and one for feeding the GPU, the two other fans are standard 120mm coming with the case, the high pressure of the NOCTUA provide plenty of cooler airflow to the GPU without the deficit of too high airflow speed which can starve the GPU fans from air (boundary layer speed). In short, if you fit a fan in front of the GPU with a too high speed airflow, it can "suck" the air away from the GPU fans, weither high pressure/low speed will feed them instead.