AvroLanc

100% agree, most of the voice lines will be relevant for the F4 too. No need to redo work. Keep it as Jester. Unfortunately for HB, they'll have to find a British voice actor and re-record for when they eventually do a Tornado.

With the DSCG (basically the radar display CRT) upgrade, both the Pilot and WSO could view the TV feed. Either crew member can view and control the seeker lockon, there's dedicated controls in each cockpit.

OK, I've only had a very brief look through those manuals this morning. That would be the best and most welcome solution. I was under the initial impression HB's '1974' version was too early for Pave Spike, but may be wrong.

Probably too early to ask the question but I will anyway...will the DMAS version come with either or both of the TDS pods for LGB's - Pave Spike or Pave Tack? The -34 says that DMAS is Pave Tack capable, that being the FLIR version, the Pave spike being daytime TV only. I think the two pods come with dedicated cockpit hardware and controls unique to each pod, so it would have to be one or another. Personally I would prefer the challenge of Pave Spike and the pod itself is more elegant looking, but PT might be more suitable for DMAS. Thanks.

Not really true. I think the main issue was licensing agreements with Panavia. There's certainly nothing inherently secret about certain versions of the IDS Tornado. An early Gr.1 would be easily doable with the available documentation and the abundance of SME's out there. A Tornado is the last remaining big wishlist aircraft missing in DCS once the F-15E, Apache and F4 are all out. Would love to see it one day.

Don’t know about anyone else, but I didn’t know much about the DMAS upgrade. It includes lots of goodies to keep the WSO busy apparently, with CCIP for the pilot. Blind and Visual computed bombing modes etc. Impressive stuff from HB.

Phabulous news. But…. Is 2022 a certain bet or more of a goal? I think we’ve all had our fill of over ambitious and optimistic target dates this week. Not to take anything away from this good announcement.

I agree that the hype was certainly built up a bit too early. The video schedule was looking good until a few weeks ago. Signs aren’t too good for a release in 9 days. They may have hit a blocker or something, but it’s best we get bad news sooner rather than later. The closer we get to the end of the month, the harder it’ll be to take.

They don't officially, but it will be obvious at the time that the release is due. Look for increased tempo of Wag's videos schedule and keep coming to forums to get a feel for the buzz of an impending OB update..... It's not hard to time the pre-order to the day prior to release.

Pretty sure it’s just ‘Dive Toss’. But I like the alternative suggestion, but it sounds like it should belong on 50’s era SAC bomber.

In previous builds pressing the Reference Button on the stick would perform a manual initial course setting when lined up on starting RW. This would produce a noticeable jump/correction to the CI heading indicator.... Doing this now in latest OB seems to do nothing. No correction is observed.... Did anything change in the modelling to account for this or is it a bug? I'm not sure if the automatic initial course is being performed either. Thanks.

New landing lights bulbs don’t illuminate. Their effects can be seen on the ground, but unlike taxi light the lamps themselves don’t have the illuminated effect.

I’m interested to see what they do with Apaches COMM page. I imagine most of it will be static and non functional. There’s a lot of network configuration and cryptology stuff for the 5 radios that we won’t see I guess. We don’t know, but I imagine we’ll be limited fundamentally to setting 5 frequencies and simple call signs.

Love most of the changes I've tested so far. Awesome stuff. But...big booboo with the data cartridge not loading waypoints etc. Hopefully can be hot fixed soon.

You can also of course input the COORD's manually using the REF/LOLA function. There'll only be max 9 points plus maybe a couple BX's. I believe the old AJ version had to do this anyway prior to the data cartridge. So kinda the most realistic. I hate the F10 method.

What Wag's has shown so far is no more complicated than the A10C. Perhaps with the possible exception of the multiple WP's/Control Measures symbols. If you're happy with the A10, then the Apache will be fine. Things may get a little more complicated much later when you factor in multi-crew sensor/sight sharing etc, target handovers between the crew, and of course the FCR and datalink when they arrive..... If you want a pure stick and collective experience, there's always the Huey.

The Viper will only display one contact full stop. The PDLT. No friendlies as well. Not even wingmen. Of course if the PDLT is a selected friendly or wingman it’ll show that.

Wags has confirmed that the PDLT (Primary Data Link Track) is coming in the future. This a single L16 track that can be hooked on the HSD. It’s displayed with an octagon on the HUD/Helmet. Very unfortunate if that’s just it….Wingman/flight positions at least would be helpful. Maybe 2007 was much more limited than we think. TBF the MLU docs from the mid 2000’s make no mention of flight member symbology when describing the PDLT.

Well it’s not the same system as the A10C. It’s quite similar though. But I agree, the widely available docs do show how it should display etc. And that should be good enough for some kind of implementation, considering how simplified the datalinks for A10, Hornet and Viper already are. As noted above, Apache has a few types of datalinks available, we’re getting the intraflight one, but not the Blue Force Tracker Situational Awareness type one.

Yep, and Wags has confirmed that this function isn’t coming. It’s apparently too sensitive and they don’t have the documentation. Please see Wag’s latest vid and comments.

In the D model Apache in the chosen timeframe, there’s no Link 16 or SADL type datalink. So don’t expect to see other friendly flights similar to the systems in Hornet and Viper. The apparent lack of detail/documentation on the SA function means they won’t be modelling ground force ‘green crosses’ ala A10C either, which should be a SA thing. What should be available is the sharing of FCR targets/symbols, sharing engagement ‘Zones’, sharing waypoints, text messages and other simple stuff, purely between upto an 8 ship Apache flight. I don’t think there’s even a real-time wingman PP symbol or anything like that.

I’m afraid this isn’t a thing in the F-16, at least not in the Tape/time frame of our version. IAMs target the current SPI, and there’s no pre-set target point mechanism available.

Yeah, this is true to life. Remember that LANTIRN has minimal integration with the aircraft's other bombing systems. All of the ballistics calculations and release cues etc are calculated within the LANTIRN POD itself. I do wonder why the USN didn't spec the pod with the ability to drop dumb bombs with it, it is a pretty useful capability. Especially so when the pod was coming into service in the late 90's. Maybe it was a memory limitation or something within the pod.

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Make sure TGP is SOI, TMS right to enter Area Track. Should be slewable now.