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Great work. When is the next integration point?

I do not know what is the date of the manual page, but it should be noted that printing style points to 80s printing technology. The weapon probably made sense and was the most effective against SARH (by far this is easiest to implement). 90s/2000s probably they tried to sell it as AWACS killer.

Recently mig-29A 9.12 manual page showed the R-27P (Р-27П) and R-27EP (Р-27ЕП) missile in the loadout. It got removed due to uncertainty of legal status. So this thing did exist.

touchscreen?

Fired against fast moving target the only way this could be precise is if: 1. target STTs, (meaning SARH era). So ARHs bade these obsolete. 2. or the targets is flying straight. (e.g. AWACS), reason: scan periods likely not sufficient to guide with enough accuracy, until the missile gets close enough to pick up side lobs. Add on top the need to correlate possible multiple signals and identify the one that comes from the target I am wondering if this was ever completed with soviet tech from 80s.

I tend to agree with Tornado pilot. Have you paid attention on what he was saying? Both UKR/RUS do this, but so far i have not seen a single drone recording showing the effects. IMHO: it's good for wood cutting, and that is pretty much it. This weapon if used in defended area has lost it's primary purpose, it's more used as a terror weapon.

I did give it a try, range differs, and they sound differently, but still what is wrong here?

Well, in that case it would not be Mig-29A. I do not believe they would leave it like that.

I've seen a video you have sent me. OK, you are trying to pitch up and fire missiles. I am still not clear on why the missiles can not be used for loft bombing. What am I missing: - too low damage? - no fuses working? Note that I have serious doubts about effectivness of such bombing.

Fascinating, could you please shed more light on this, perhaps with some block diagrams and time based signal diagrams? Would be also interesting to see this for following cases: 1. radio correction segment of flight 2. SARH being activated

No really, but lets make it clear if you loose lock for what ever reasons you will not be able to recover R-27. I am wondering if this problem was solved at some later time IRL, especially of other manuals to do not state this. And yes there are differences between manuals.

Well one thing that occurred to me is that different manuals may differ in terms of content. E.g. limitations may be not only because of the technical reasons, but rather organizational and requirements from each air force. It would be curious to see if this R-27 limitation is applicable to Mig-29 at all (surely the same sentence would be in the manual). Strictly speaking reason for no re-locking is possible is the fact that Su-27SK radar starts with new parameters and synchronization does not take place, e.g. it does not continue as before the lock was lost.

1. Everyone know that breaking a lock on flanker/fulcrum ib DCS is easy. 2. Real Su-27SK manual states with single sentence that relock is not possible. 3. Even when relock was possible it had limitted practical use 4. RWRs in western jets as implenented now are too precise in terms of azimuth. This is what makes it so easy to dump R-27ER

Did you turn off laser to avoid overheat and burn out?

Already turned off. Are you talking about CCRP or manual lofting?

I wonder what different manuals say about same limitations types?

Why do you thing only S-8KOM?

Please stay on topic. We can discuss this all day long, but ED will do at the end accrding to manuals and their own decissions. Also note that size of EOS does matter and that one on the flanker is roughly size of the helmet.

Did I read this correctly the pilot has to drive the vertical movement for a search?

IR Missiles guide just fine this is rendering issue.

Was that page really confirmed classified? Asking since after you removed the message, the URL of image was still hosted by forum software.

Although I am firmly in 29 camp, lets try to put this aside. Manuals do exist and we do not need to spend much time discussing what is realistic and what not, and I am pretty sure we will get what ED is allowed to simulate. At minimum I believe ET/ER are withing the limits.

Dude, you already missed the piece of russian manual for 9.12 (that got removed) stating both ER and EP.