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Listening to this music while stoned must be an interesting experience.

There is a known thread scheduling problem with ryzen that stems for lack of windows proper support. We should see performance in single thread go up a notch when that is fixed. The current 20% disadvantage in gaming to the 7700k should narrow down (although predictably not eliminated).

In that case, 7700k hands down, even when Ed decides to multicore Edge I'm almost certain it won't need more than 8 threads. My case however is different I play star citizen and do work on my PC, so this lackluster single thread performance on the Ryzen is causing me some grief while trying to decide

looking forward to see Ryzen processors included in the comparison, I'm on the fence and would like to know if thats a good option for DCS or should I wait for skylake-X 6 cores (I will use multithreading as well and need a good blend of single core and multithreading)

the 1700 is the most interesting processor, some people could clock it as high as a 1800X manually yet costs 200$ less. even less than a 7700K. Let that sink in. That being said, there is a lack of compatible memories immature BIOs and coolers, so it may be a good idea to wait a couple more months to let things settle down.

Not all reviewers agree. Joker productions have demonstrated that the baseline 1700 processor matches the 7700K in current games and has twice the threads for the future and its cheaper.

It's because pre-order costs more, wait a few weeks to stabilize once you find them on the shelves

..or it might have the opposite effect if the pilots believe in their cause. There several examples of this but thats a story for another time... :)

Ryzen 1600X (6 cores) benchies more single core scores in cinebench 15

1800X prototype benchies with turbo disabled

But both 1700X and 1800X are 8c/16t chips at 95W... You are indeed confused. The 6 core part is the 1600X and has TDP of 65W

yup, dont know why they wrote that because a few lines above they posted this: And this chipset doesnt have any overclocking fucntionality. The chips revert to their base clocks.

I work in the aerospace sector, and its like working in medical emergencies. A Highly stressfull job and I pick the fights more carefully now. :) waiting for DCS 2.0 to go public + new rig soon, so I can return to MP with a clean setup. So, soon now, soon. before anyone aks, yes I will post a thread for the build, it will be something worth seeing.

AMD's boost were didabled too (tested on A320 board). So IPC wise the difference is very small. It rests on how high they can clock. There is no stopping the 7700K but then the sheer difference in cores will be more important as time goes by.

some more benchies: http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3dmark-benchmarks-leaked-faster-core-intels-i7-6950x/

Theres a bit of misinterpretation of some facts here. Ryzen chips of the X series are not locked to any clock speeds. The specs of 3.6 and 4.0GHz speeds are the garanteed minimum ones with the baseline wraith cooler. If you have better cooling it will automatically clock higher and you have to then find the limit by yourself. The mileage will vary depending how cool you can keep it under load. Its IPC seems to be pretty much neck to neck with intel. The only variable will be clock speeds and we should wait for benchmarks to get any idea where they land at. Ryzen Chips should be very good for DCS. Not the best, but pretty good. Where Ryzen will shine brighter though, is multithreaded applications. Im looking at that 1800X myself as DCS is not my only game (I also have Star citizen and thats what Im primarily gunning for).

lol I was not intending to go into another academic discussion. You know what I meant. Besides Im finaly too old and dont care :)

Imagine an F-5 tiger carrying AIM-54's.

and the thing will be carried by Gripens. Ming boggling.

when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D

I garantee the last pic has less american attendees in it. ;)

we should see alot information one month from now as it gets released. So far all we got is tentalizing performance and pricing rumours. I would guess the accuracy will be around 50%, so not much to go by lol. That being said this is the worst possible time to rush build. You could end getting a bad deal and get sucked to Intels price hike while their dominance lasts.

... if you run Dcs only as the general gaming landscape right now is shifting to 6 cores, in which case a quad core is bad investment.

closer to 30% core per core, and the 7700K can clock higher than sandy bridge. in multithreading the difference should be much higher due to having 4 extra logical cores. j7bcjFnLib8

the 512GB models are the sweetspot right now, if you play mostly DCS only. Ill be getting on 1TB 960 Evo with my next build (soon) as I will need that extra space for Star citizen and a few RTS games in addition to DCS (would run quickly out of space with any smaller unit).