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any headway on this? I am also experiencing this mission stall.

As the title says - I've never experienced this before, but no matter which STPT I have active the TPOD defaults to H4. If I slew around hitting CZ will send the TPOD focus back to H4. Curious if I am doing something wrong? Only thing I'm doing different during start up here is setting the laser to the code specified in the knee board (1686) vs using the standard 1688. Any help would be great.

It helped, but not significantly. Was able to ingress and hit the target, however it was running down into single digit frames by the time of the mission's "surprise." Unfortunately I'll be shelving the campaign until something changes. Which is a shame because I was really enjoying it.

Oh man that’s a bummer. Unfortunate because otherwise the campaign really is great. Okay, I do have tac view running so I’ll try that then. Thanks for the response.

Really enjoying the campaign, but I'm getting some really bad frame rate issues that are starting to make the missions unplayable. Particularly missions 8, 9.1, 9.2, and now 11 I'm getting frame rates in the single digits. Other missions tend to run in the 45-50 range, occasionally dropping to around 30, which is fine. But I can't really dodge SA11's over Damascus at low level with 7fps. I don't have any issues in any of the instant action missions, regular single missions, or multiplayer. All of that runs in the 90-140 FPS range. The Red Flag campaign I was in the 45-90 range on frames. I've tried turning down the textures and load distances however that doesn't seem to have any effect. Is there something going on that I am missing? EDIT: For reference I'm using an i7-9700, 32gb RAM, x64 Win10, RTX 2070 Super. Game is installed on an M.2 2TB SSD. CPU load during missions is about 55%, RAM at 65%, and GPU load is low at 10-15%. This is where I think the issue is, as in other single player missions and MP my CPU and RAM load is closer to 80-90%, and GPU is maxing out at 100%. So it's almost like something is stopping the campaign from using all the horse power available to it. Definitely seems weird. Thanks.

Just did this mission and had the same issue. No whiplash on channel 20.

Interesting - Okay I'll do some more testing with it. IIRC most of the issues I've been having correlate with a hangar start and that makes sense. Thanks for the tip.

Just went back up. Data Link was working, but not as intended GPS SYSTEM did not show, Turned MIDS on, Had to cycle GPS TIME on in the DED TIME page, Data Link came on. Respawned and it was completely broken. No GPS TIME, No Data Link Tracks if I turned MIDS on. Cycling the GPS TIME in the TIME DED page had no effect. I'd Attach the Track but it's 54 MB. 51 MB Compressed. I'd be happy to upload/Send it some other way. EDIT: Here put it in a drop box: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r2r2t4alojb3bm34p9asr/Through_The_Inferno_SYRIA_v4.0.6-20240601-201735.trk?rlkey=u7x68nh40guq8cyuqvlu899tb&st=nwgqa2qq&dl=0

Here's a Track where everything worked as intended for comparison. Through_The_Inferno_SYRIA_v4.0.6-20240601-194642.trk

Did another attempt just now. GPS SYSTEM did not come on in the TIME page on the DED, and the DLINK page would not open in the DED HOWEVER, I turned MIDS on without the GPS SYSTEM updating in the time page and the MSD did show Data Link tracks, and I could then open the DLINK DED page and cycle the GPS TIME on/off. None of this got the GPS SYSTEM text to update in the TIME DED page. TRK attached. Through_The_Inferno_SYRIA_v4.0.6-20240601-170755.trk

Can confirm F16 DataLink is still broken. Sometimes it works for a while but eventually the "GPS SYSTEM" will not update in the TIME page on the DED. Sometimes this doesn't matter, and Turning the MIDS to ON will still get the Datalink up and running, but sometimes not. It's very inconsistent. Hitting Enter Does nothing. The DLINK page on the DED is completely broken and will not open. I will try and get a track file the next time this happens. Added a TRK file from just a moment ago where GPS SYSTEM would not come on and the DLINK page in the DED would not open. Through_The_Inferno_SYRIA_v4.0.6-20240601-163923.trk

Was there ever a resolution to this issue? I'm experiencing it now with a severe movement downward on the Y axis of the throttle joystick.

how do you push down the handle?

Trying to install - what is the "main install directory?" What is the file path I am following? Thank you.

the radar already scans at max range left and right in RWS. Moving that scan zone will not change anything, just up and down. The cone will move left or right with the tdc slew in TWS. At least it appears to on the b scope.

I wish we had the option to laugh react posts because you deserve it.

Time accelerator? Clearly these planes are more capable and I have more to learn than I thought.

Exactly. I *should* have the advantage. Haha. I pushed my engagement ranges out by another 5 to 10nm and that seems to have helped some I think. I wish I had more flight time available to really test things out but I don't think it's going to pan out for me in that regard any time soon. My biggest issue with managing flight range at the moment is that it's just so dang boring going that slowly, and takes for ever to get anywhere. But that's a "me " problem I think. 420 nm @ 250 knots = 1 hour 40 minutes and 48 seconds? Pass. LOL

I wouldn't say a full handle but I'm getting more of it I think. Although today I am having trouble completing missions that were a breeze before after I accidentally restarted my bear trap campaign. RedFor's Fox-3's are giving me trouble where I did not feel that threatened by them before. I don't know if this is because I am just lower energy when the fight starts or if I'm doing something different. But that's a problem for another thread I suppose.

I tried the next mission in the campaign which calls for a similar flight from Vaizani to Mozdok (Beslan). I took 2 tanks again and was able to do a much better job controlling my speed up to my cruising altitude, and maintaining it from there. I made it to the bullseye with a decent amount of fuel in the bags. definitely not 4500 tho. Don't they start with a couple hundred more than that? I eventually had to Jettison them in combat and was shot down by an SAM before starting the return leg. I'm not sure how much fuel I Had left at that point.

First off thank you for the info and write up. I know it takes time to do so thank you for taking it to help me out. I'm trying to take all your tips to heart and be conscious of them while playing. I'm working my way through the f15c bear trap campaign and just finished up mission 6. This was a really long flight so I used all I've learned in here to conserve fuel to reach the target & etc. To debreif, Took of from vaizani* or however it's spelt, target waypoint was at Nal'Chik or something like that, about a 20 minute flight from take off. I took 2 tanks. AB for takeoff with flaps down, cut ab at 250knts and start pitching up to about 7-10* around 275-300knts. I'm not as precise as I think I need to be yet but this has been working. I stay down till around 500knts and start climbing. I'm not doing great at keeping the speed constant-ish but I am getting better. I climb to around 35k feet and cruise there at 350knts as this is mission parameters for timing the SEAD strikes correctly. I'm not great at maintaining it without AB but, keeping an eye on the nozzle gauge has helped me keep AB use at a minimum. Tanks were empty at the target waypoint basically, dropped them and started engaging enemy CAP aircraft. 4 kills, 2 bug outs, but I was basically out of gas by the end of the fight, which I feel like went fairly quickly. I was on E before I made it back to the mountains, and had to eject over hostile territory. I'm not sure what I could have done differently to ensure a safe RTB. I did a little measuring in google earth and it's only about 150 miles from Vaizani to Nalchik IRL. I feel like that's not a massive distance. I can drive further than that on a tank of gas. So I think I must still be doing something wrong to have been out of fuel like I was.

Thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate it. I did a couple campaign missions last night, and was able to run an uncontested CAP and land with plenty of fuel. Similarly I did a second mission, and was able to hit my way points and engage some pop up bandits with out running low on gas so I think I'm making progress, especially with regard to the climb and cruise. Mission parameters dictated an altitude of A25 so I didn't get to fully climb to 30+ but I can see the path there. I didn't get into any long bvr engagements, as the F-pole maneuver with the 15C seems to dispatch the AI pretty effectively (Lethal launches at like 15 miles). I don't think holding fire till that close would work against players but It's working against AI.

Okay, I've definitely been overusing the AB then. Essentially I'm running max AB from take off until cruising altitude, usually 30k to 45k ft if its up to me, however many of the missions that I'm flying have targets from 1k to 25k feet so I usually end up quite a bit lower (25k to 30k or less). So max AB up to cruising altitude, then I drop it down to MIL until I find bandits. Once I drop tanks and start BVR maneuvers is when the fuel really starts to disappear. I can usually get 2, MAYBE 3 encounters in before I'm out of gas. I've run out of gas mid fight before as some of the fights I've been in went to the merge. From what I've learned, as I understand it for BVR the faster the better, but maybe there are times I should be backing off to save some fuel? I know it's bad practice, but at least for dealing with AI and having enough fuel to complete missions I've been hanging onto the external tanks until they are depleted and then dropping them, even if I am losing performance in the fight. Okay, I turned on the loud after burner sounds in the audio menu, and that definitely helps make it more obvious when the AB has kicked in. I will keep AoA in mind when at higher altitudes or lower speeds or just in general. I haven't been paying much attention to that except when the water line is a whole-ass 5+ degrees above the path indicator. I'm pretty okay with the concept of thinner air at higher altitudes, and how that translates to less fuel burn, faster AMRAAMs, etc. Cruising I'm fine with, I can conserve fuel while traveling, but once the fight is on it seems to run out almost immediately. I need to work on the fast climb though. For now I've been keeping it about 7.5* to keep from losing to much airspeed while climbing - usually with some degree of AB engaged. Thank you. I've been through the f15c tutorials provided for by the Grim Reapers youtube channel (among others), but I will go through this set as well.

I need help in this regard. I'm a newer player and, well, my call sign might as well be "Bingo" because I'm always out of gas, and I haven't yet learned to manage my airspeed. Can you point me in the direction of some tips or advice to help better manage both airspeed and fuel with the F15C?

Ah. I didn't see the edit. Let me check. Andd Looks Good! They are right where you say they should be. I've just been searching in the wrong place. D'oh! This ended up being kind of silly. Many thanks for your direction and patience.