Keith Briscoe

I have this issue of PCL mic usually not be recognized by voice Attack. This and the periodic floating / bad tracking... Honestly this is kind of a piece of $#!7. And I didnt even have issues with lenses that others had. Only just came back to try PCL again with new Pimax play. Looks good and works fine at first. Then all these gremlins surface, just like when I originally got my PCL. Seriously such a regret. Will probably go right on back to G2 and just keep delaying 24h2 update.

Do you have LED lights in your area where you use VR? Do you have an Intel 13900 or 14900?

VERY VERY interesting. I do indeed have LED in ceiling flood lights in this room, in fact, practically everywhere in the house. But, I've just put some old style incandescent 65w bulbs and a new set of baffle trim rings in my Amazon shopping list so I can purchase those next if my other series of tests are not successful. Thank you for the suggestion. Wonder if others will see this and would love to see if those with tracking issues tend to be using LED lighting in their spaces...

Welcome to our world... sorry to be sarcastic. I wish you luck; seems we must constantly chase issues in VR (and perhaps Pimax even more so). very good question, I'll be watching here.

https://www.uploadvr.com/htc-vive-focus-vision-hands-on/ good but not a glowing review

Very helpful to see this @Nedum, thank you.

$999 + $149 (or just $89 for DP cable) - - required for DP?, I can't actually tell which accessory is required. Looking forward to the yt reviews.

With those specs and price AND assuming it works out of the box with far lower hardware/lens and software issues... this could be a very good sell vs. PCL. I love the visuals of my PCL.. but I've had significant challenges with tracking. G2 was ultra stable so clearly that can be done. I wonder if HTC-Vive is big enough and reliable enough to manufacture with more consistency and provide fast/reliable customer service when needed.

Thanks for the link. When I get around to re-trying / re-installing everything for Pimax CL, I will consider keeping FFR off to see if that helps the floating. Seems unrelated, but you just never know.

I cannot comment on fixes since I'm back to and still using the G2. I keep reading about the various and inconsistent reports about the latest PimaxPlay and associated openxr toolkit plus quadviews implementation. Every other day I plan to try the PCL again, but then I just don't want to have to go back to tinkering...

Half-raq? Just kidding of course. I'll probably do the pre-order on this soon. This map makes the the most sense to me so I'm looking forward to it.

I imagine this has to be different for each jet, right?

Are you sure that's right about vive and wmr?

Posting here bc I experience this too...

jeez, this sounds awful - i feel for you. I'll be following this thread, because your notes have scared me away from trying to get my PCL working again and going to the latest version of PP. Really a crazy amount of variability in experiences.

i heard someone once say, 'if it ain't broke, why fix it".

What do you mean by lost of sync? Does your view start floating away (outside of cockpit, for example)? If so, I would REALLY like to know if using the lighthouse and base station has COMPLETELY solved this for anyone that had the floating issue and moved to Lighthouse. It is unfortunate that an inside out device like the PCL 'might' require an outside in add-on... but I would actually consider it if absolutely necessary to make my PCL useable again.

The dreaded 'floating away' issue. That is what plagued me and why I unplugged my PCL and went back to G2. I hope to return and was hoping to hear that the new PP software thoroughly addressed tracking issues. That said, I really hope i find a controls conflict like @Johnny Dioxin mentions... but that would just be too easy (still hoping though). I too have tried doing a 'room setup' every time before starting up DCS, or even sometimes after starting DCS. Haven't had full success with any technique... yet.

I did try the deadzones both in SAP and directly in the DCS control settings - but the floating would still randomly occur (even while I was just in SAP and watching the trace of the input). Then, I noticed in SimAppPro an option to change this control from "round" to "square"... I had it set on Round. I changed to Square and it 'seems' to be better now (I still do have a small deadzone set). Fingers crossed.

Unfortunately, I can even see this drift in SimAppPro. I can adjust / set a deadzone directly in SAP OR, click a check box and the slider to adjust deadzone goes away. I've tried both methods but the drift randomly occurs either way. Any additional thoughts folks? Is this perhaps just a degraded/degrading sensor?? Thanks.

Performance at low altitude is pretty disappointing and I'm concerned that additional work on textures across this expansive map is just going to keep bogging down. I'll keep checking back because I certainly hope it gets better .

I tend to agree

Any idea why I might be getting this when I start VA?: null 20241001-1544-40.1518733.mp4

@Dangerzone I follow almost everything you reference here - very helpful findings. But what do you mean by the "supersampled at 160%" part? is that the first slider for the resolution in the foveated region? Thx

Misery loves company... gosh I really want / wanted to love my PCL but I have struggled with it. Then the latest news of 90hz upscaling, integrated this and that. Hope returns, but seems the community is not yet convinced based on trials and visuals. I went back to my Reverb G2 the other day and I just cannot stress the satisfaction of 'it just works every time and in all circumstances' stability. I know it's not perfect. I remember what the PCL looked like. But the crisp edge to edge visuals do not do me any good when I cannot count on floating/tracking issues and/or extra stutter AND most importantly game/headset crashes. I nearly quit my ACC racing league last week, but I will race again this Thursday with G2 and hopeful (if not expecting) things to go very smoothly. Will keep my PCL for a while, in its box, to see if something good/great/whatever happens. But for now, I'll just go back to keeping my fingers crossed the WMR stays alive.