JunMcKill

The problem is that the id numbers in the video are on the left side of the symbol based in their heading, and thats wrong AFAIK, when you see the original graphs, the id numbers should appear at the left side of the symbol doesn't matter the heading of the aircraft, but maybe in the real SU-27S is like the video, and the SK version is different

I think it should be reported and fixed, in the end, the datalink capability is part of the FC3 russian aircrafts, and will be needed in future not only for russians but for US aircrafts either

Oops! yes is working like the graph above, looks like I have been a while out of SP! :thumbup: the problem is that in MP you can't assign who is flying with you like in Ka-50, and do not see the upper and right number in the HDD! But looking your video notice that you are right, the ID numbers are in the right side while should be in the left. The #7 in the graph (4 in video) is ok but should be below the transverse line at the right, its wrong when is passed to the left side of the symbol when order to attach, and the number above the symbol is OK Here is the original in russian, maybe someone can tell if the translation is ok, but looking the graphs, I think we are right Рис. 39. Информация на ИПВ самолета командира объединенной группы. 1 – Цель с линией высоты и вектором скорости, переданная от командира звена или ведомого командиру объединенной группы (неотождествленная). 2 – Номер цели. 3 – Номер самолета, от которого пришла цель. 4 – Цель отождествленная. 5 – Цель, переданная с НАСУ. 6 – Номер отождествленной цели. 7 – Цели с линией высоты и вектором скорости, сопровождаемые РЛС. 8 – Номер цели. 9 – Номер самолета, которому передана данная цель. 10 – Свой самолет (командир объединенной группы) с номером. 11 – Самолеты, ведомые командиром объединенной группы. 12 – Самолеты ведущих звеньев с номерами и количеством самолетов в звеньях (числа в кружках). 13 – Ряд ранжировки целей по степени опасности. 14 – Цель, назначенная на атаку. 15 – Масштаб. 16 – Дальность полета по запасу топлива. Рис. 41. Информация на ИПВ самолета ведомого. 1 – Цель с линией высоты и вектором скорости, переданная от ведущего звена (неотождествленная). 2 – Номер цели. 3 – Цель с линией высоты и вектором скорости (отождествленная). 4 – Номер отождествленной цели. 5 – Цель, сопровождаемая РЛС. 6 – Номер цели. 7 – Номер самолета ведущего звена, которому передана цель. 8 – Свой самолет с номером. 9 – Ведущий звена с номером. 10 – Ведомые звена с номерами. 11 – Ряд ранжировки целей по степени опасности. 12 – Цель, назначенная на атаку. 13 – Масштаб. 14 – Дальность полета по запасу топлива.

Agree!

If I recall, the #7 is not simulated in DCS, you only have the id number of the aircraft (#2), but not who attacks whom. In the case of the commanding aircraft HDD mode, there is a third number (above the target) and show who in your group is detecting it. I hope that ED makes the fully clickable SU-27SK one day (or another more modern), with the online info, and the SU-27 PFM already tested in FC3

The height is the transverse line, like in DCS, is not a number. And you are right, the second graph is more similar to DCS, the first one is for the commander of the group and receive via datalink the info of the other groups (not visibles in radar) and the info of his own group and targets

This one is more similar to the one of DCS datalink Fig. 41. Information on IPV own aircraft. 1 - The target with height and the velocity vector lines transmitted from a member of the group (unidentified). 2 - Number of target. 3 - Target with the height and velocity vector lines (identified). 4 - Number of the identification of the target. 5 - Target received by radar. 6 - Number of Target. 7 - Number of aircraft of the group, who engage the target. 8 - The wingman id number. 9 - Leader id number. 10 - Other members with their id numbers. 11 - target id ranking order by the degree of danger. 12 - The target assigned to attack. 13 - Scale. 14 - Range for the fuel supply.

This is from the real SU-27SK which is the export version of the SU-27S simulated in DCS, at least will give you an idea of what are the numbers Fig. 39. Information on IPV of the commander aircraft for a combined group. 1 - Target with line of height and velocity vector transmitted from the slave unit commander or the commander of the combined group (unidentified). 2 - Number of target. 3 - Number of aircraft, from which came the target. 4 - Type of identification (own radar or datalink). 5 - Target passed with NASU (datalink). 6 - Number target ID. 7 - Targets with height and velocity vector lines, followed by radar. 8 - Number of target. 9 - Number of aircraft from which this objective is passed. 10 - Own aircraft (the commander of the combined group) with a number. 11 - Aircrafts, led by the commander of the own combined group. 12 - Links to groups of aircrafts with the group number (qty in circles). 13 - Number of ranking with the degree of danger. 14 - The target assigned to attack. 15 - Scale. 16 - Range for the fuel supply.

Could you post the link when was beaten this record 10 years later? Thanks!

But in speed the P-42 (record flanker version of SU-27) smashed the records of the F-15 to differents heights, compare the below graphs with the one already posted in time

Count to ten and unlock the enemy, it works, if is close, just launch it and escape!

It's possible that this autopilot options are the ones of the real aircraft? remember that SU-27 have PFM and SU-33 dont

There is another situation, SA with AWACS: Flanker > Eagle Thats why most of the public servers have the AWACS off! and sorry if someone is ofended, it's my intention! :)

If you unchecked this feature in the MISC options and the movement continues, report the problem to ED

Lol, but this feature makes the simulator more realistic, of course is not mandatory, thats why you can disable it when you want!

In fact we guess the F-16 maneuvering in the youtube video was against a SA-2E, the best missile platforms in Desert Storm, Allied Force and others were with SA-3 (same guidance than SA-2 with three shot down, and the F-117 in Serbia) and SA-6 (SARH, two shot down), the SA-2 (two) and MANPADS, other shot downs were with unknown launch platform. But they were effective against older platform like F-4 and A-4: "Yom Kippur War The 2K12 surprised the Israelis in the 1973 Yom Kippur War. They were used to having air superiority over the battlefield. The highly mobile 2K12 took a heavy toll on the slower A-4 Skyhawk and even the F-4 Phantom, forming a protective umbrella until they could be removed. The radar warning receivers on the Israeli aircraft did not alert the pilot to the fact that he was being illuminated by the radar. Once the RWRs were reprogrammed and tactics changed, the 2K12 was no longer such a grave threat, but still caused heavy losses to Israeli aircraft." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub

Good video I thought that was an old Flash Gordon episode of the 30s! LOL

The principle is the same, the ground radar lock the target, and is radio commanded, the RWR should detect the guidance isn't it? thats is we were talking or not? the missile warning were locks (like the ones of DCS with the same pitch tone), and dont tell me the F-16 RWR of the late 80s is classified GG, come on, many countries have F_16, including Venezuela and others that could transfered the technology to Russia long time ago.

There are videos online of F-16 in the Gulf war, escaping from ground SARH missiles and in the cockpit sounds you hear nothing but the lock bleep, the only way they know that was launched was visually by the WSO. I will not post again here and waste my time with the answers of GG, that always have a justification for everything in order to defend DCS world, the last time I posted one, told me that was because the missile was an old SA-2 LOL!! find them in youtube please

IMHO, they are doing that because the capability of ARH missile to conitinue alone and the pilot can break contact and escape after the missile goes pitbul

Thats is not 100% real, is what the propaganda gave you online

you're right, as is the R-77M1 and the next gen missiles

If you have a proper lock, the distance of the transmiter means nothing, the EM pulse have the speed of light, the fact is that SARH missiles are intended in real life to be more effective than the others, because they should kill in silence, while the ARH have to emit in some point. But that advantage is not simulated in ED, you now from the launch when someone shoot you a SARH missile

All missile SARH and ARH relies in radar reflections, in the first case from the source aircraft radar, in the second case from his own radar, and all should be susceptible to chaff EM reflection

The missiles are inefective, because the proximity fuse is not working, you have to achieve a direct hit which is almost impossible for fighter planes.