Rongor

Your video shows static targets. No idea what the benefit of using LMC would be in this situation.

Open the manual and read up how it's done beginning on page 205

yeah we always join for MC in a cold aircraft, not touching any switches until both are in the cockpit, to avoid sync issues

Can your human CPG hear the missile, searching, tracking alerts? He confirmed he turned up the RLWR volume dial on the radio control panel...

well, we don't have a central position trimmer mode IRL either

It's pretty odd that you say that, because I have mapped trim reset in all of them. Didn't you notice these while beta testing? Did I forget one?

so you still don't understand. As long as you think there was relevance, you didn't get it. Please read Raptor9's post above. Or do as you said and move on.

only in the mission editor, but - as mentioned - these changes currently don't show up in the presets displayed in the EUFD preset selection

Hiob is right, the central position trimmer mode always worked like this. the only thing making people think it is a special weirdness with the Apache is that many obviously only ever used default trimmer mode and since this one isn't available in the Apache, now are struggling to adapt.

No you didn't think, you posted it publicly, probably to leave a stain on my credibility, which is sad. I didn't meant to hurt you or anybody. In the aviation world, it's good practice to suppress emotions like this and keep eyes open for ideas opposing your established mindset. I don't understand how this would have prevented misunderstanding the FTR. Because the idea of having these modes magically make the FTR concept go away is one of many misconceptions in this thread.

yeah. two topics in one sentence and now we have a problem. You have to disconnect Wags use of the FTR from the reason he intended to maintain a certain pedal attitude. He could've done it in any other moment, maybe while hovering or during a turn. This doesn't mean FTR is connected to these specific attitudes. read and understand what @Raptor9 explained here English is not my native language so I couldn't have explained it even close that well he did. With any repetition of connecting Force trim to aerodynamic and/or nose-to-tail trim, you will promote further confusion. This thread is much too long already and we can't expect anybody to review all what was said and then differentiate between helpful and misleading.

So how is it relevant to a force trim thread, besides the fact that Wags used force trim in a video in a moment he wanted to maintain aerodynamic trim?

to be honest we shouldn't discuss trim reset here in this already cluttered thread filled with misconceptions. Wasn't there a thread about trim reset?

This is highly individual. Don't see why you would trim for keeping only minor adjustments. It's not like you want to take your feet off the pedals. Your whole argument is basically saying all steering adjustments have to do with the force trim release. Regarding your ED beta testers tag line, I find that highly problematic. Beginners will deem your comments more credible than others, so you create a lot of confusion by your words. I really hope you don't test helos.

no you don't. You use your feet to set the pedals. And if you are annoyed by having to stress your feet that long, you may of course use force trim release, just like in any other situation you wanna ease your physical input for stability. Other than this, there is no connection at all

this addresses flight attitude and is connected to the trim ball. Please allow me to not answer this here because it has nothing to do with force trim and also it is no mode at all.

If you trimmed wrong and there is no time to correct the trim because you don't even have an idea in which direction you are wrongly trimmed, a trim reset would be the quickest and safest way. If you have the controls indicator box open, you could do this yourself of course, but this could also require too much time, for example in case one axis is trimmed to one end, and you have to trim it back towards center and can't achieve this in a single trim attempt. No this is exactly not what they are asking for. It's in fact the centered position of your joystick. Other DCS helos have it. What you are describing is trimming, not trim cancelling nor reset and was never in DCS.

Right now, in the Apache, there is no trim reset. People are wishing for it as a quality of life option. The purpose is to cancel out the trim situation back to controls at center zero. So your centered controls hardware would return to represent ingame-aircraft controls which didn't receive any trimming so far, just as as they are when you start the aircraft up in DCS. Sometimes, especially with few practice, you end up with a trim you just wanna get rid off fast.

You are correct, yet presets are selected via the EUFD

I see, actually that is true. Probably an early access thing but could be worth a bug report.

Well, flying with the CI for some time would make you stop developing wild assumptions what the FTR is good for and when you better shouldn't use it.

The CI shows you that your whole idea of whipping it around like a sports car has nothing to do with holding down the FTR. And as you figured out yourself, poses nothing but a risk during maneuvering. So don't do that.

It doesn't. At no time does he claim it's already implemented. The manual also doesn't.

Ok, so now you are claiming a continuous force trim release affects steering inputs. Please just stop. Use the CI as @agamemnon_b5 recommended and notice how your 'advice' does exactly nothing. I would strongly recommend not to do this. You risk accidently letting go the FTR button while you are in your 'evasive maneuvers', then you'll enter a world of pain because your controls will do nothing until centered.