Krupi

Otto that is the whole point... I do not understand why you keep on missing it. You obviously fly reds and not blue or you would appreciate where we come from, the majority of us here will fly regardless of the odds, regardless of the "balance" issue no matter how frustrating it is however if you want to attract new players ED will need to bring some sort of "balance" hopefully the new P-51 will help in this regards while keeping historical accuracy. Regarding the mk14 I know that there is some concern that it will only reverse the status quo, I suppose it depends on if we get the +18 or +21. I hope it brings some level of parity, time will tell.

Don't worry the Mk 14 is planned so we will get our own ufo , looking forward to that :thumbup:

Why would the G14 suddenly be a much better in turning? The weight would not have such a huge impact, it would probably suffer from even greater stick forces... See I can make ludicrous assumptions as well kurfurst ;)

So a difference of ~15mph between the IX and G14 compared to ~25/30mph between the IX and K4... Is irrelevant... Regarding the 30mm you guys are kidding yourselves if you don't think this is an exceptional weapon yes it has less ammo, yes it drops however the damage it can deal put weights these negatives. I think it will only become more impressive with the new damage model as well, so yes please bring forth the 20mm 109.

Okay let me try and explain it like I am talking to a child. I never said that, you are attempting badly to put words in my mouth... What I said was when fighting in the 109 of course you are not always going to running at full throttle, you need to slow down to turn etc... What I was talking about was how frustrating it is when you finally get in a good position on a 109 only to see him gun the throttle and fly away. Do you understand now? Not sure what point you are making here. I am talking about what I see online and have experienced flying a 109. Compared to all other aircraft it feels like you are unstoppable, unless you are fighting against a well piloted P-51 you don't have much to be worried about. If you do come across one you can just climb away. It was my understanding that the G14 is slower than the K4, which is perhaps not the case under certain scenarios however I am not a 109 expert ;) Probably for the best, save yourself some embarrassment.

It pretty horrible, especially at distance... It is a dead giveaway that the aircraft in the distance is a spitfire. The aircraft also shines more than the others however I don't expect these issues to be sorted in 1.5 given the arrival of Normandy 2.0/2.5 in the not too distance future (hopefully).

I think he was only referencing something he read, personally without teamwork it would just be quake wars with lone wolfers... Not for me. I really enjoy the teamwork side of it personally, I think that is what keeps me coming back to ww2 simming online. My most favourite online experience was being part of a rolling campaign in the old il2 when I was flying for JG52 (Scorched earth was it?) also inter squad tournaments which were great fun. You could not run these events without TS :D My ideal future for DCS WWIi would be massive rolling online campaigns :pilotfly:

Whooo, great news

So last night I had the pleasure of flying with DavidRed and DefaultFace an experience which I would like to publicly thank them for. Originally the plan was to fly the Spitfire, unfortunately events conspired against us and the blue side was out in force last night... 16 Blue vs 6 Red... Even the team's for crying out loud people... We had one quick sortie in the spitfire, unfortunately in my haste to join the fun I embarrassingly blew my engine and had to drift back to base as they got stuck in. We ended up taking 109s next as the team's were not going to become even anytime soon. We spawned with the airfield spewing lead all around us as P-51 and spitfires flew low over the base... Seriously when will people learn to stay away from base, let people take off! Regardless off we went and in short succession we had raked up a few kills, not surprising given the target rich environment that was offered to us. Within a few minutes the skies were clear however it wasn't long before another wave ok blue aircraft was upon us... Now the first thing that we agreed upon was just how bad shoulder shooting has been of late, it seems that the stat page has turned a lot of people into shameless kills stealers and by the end of the night I think we all had at least two kills robbed each.... :( As the night wore on the team's became even and we moved from dogfights over our base to eventually dogfights over the allied base... Unfortunately I had to leave shortly after as it was quite late. I had four kills registered and two deaths both pilot kills from a spitfires guns. DefaultFace also had four kills David Six kills (Note that he had to leave for a while so he probably had more) Unfortunately this venture only reinforced my belief that of all the aircraft the IX have the hardest time of it, to put it simply speed is life and nothing will stop its slow speed from being a death sentence. I say this because I have experienced the same scenario but reversed, if you have 109s over your base you are in for a very rough and frustrating time and prepare to die a LOT. I felt no such qualms going up in the spitfire infested skies above the red base. All in all it was a very good experience and we had a good conversation, we all agree that we need a Gustav and Anton. We also agree that petty arguments will do nothing to avail the current issue, the onus is on us to convince ED and to do that we need to be unified not arguing amongst ourselves. Thanks again DavidRed and DefaultFace, now I hope we can jump in Spitfires tonight :D

Not as meaningless as someone who is on a thread that they cannot comprehend since they do not fly online, which begs the question why are you even here Kurfurst...

You have missed the point Otto, the speed from MW50 is only relevant when you are in a bad spot , obviously when you are dogfighting you will be reducing throttle.

Nice thanks Yo-Yo

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You don't trust that website seeing what Krufurst is like, I can't trust his sources either... where does that leave us?

I am surprised. I thought at higher speeds the elevators started to become a bit heavier that is all. Thanks for the response Yo-Yo

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The G14 was much slower than the K4, not faster...

Far as I was aware I had full fuel, I will run the test again though to make sure.

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Of course not David I am not attempting to detract anything from the skills of you and other 109 pilots they still had to learn the aircraft they still had to master the 30mm and its small amount of ammo. Fair play to you and to them you have truly mastered the aircraft. However I was fed up of those in denial that the Spitfire Mk IX and K4 is a good match up, it is clear it is not, it obviously is not. I had really hoped that the Mk IX could reign in the K4 however that is not going to happen. EVER. So you ask what my aim is, well it is to point this out as best I can and hope that ED are aware of the issue and do something about it as far as I can tell we have two options... The Mk14, which as has been already stated could just reverse the current status quo which I do not think will happen personally as the Griffon will still require the careful handling the Merlin requires. Or What I really really honestly hope will happen is that at some point we will get a G6 or a G14. I like yourself and many others poured money into this sim and all its requirements and peripherals and I really hope to see it fulfil its true potential one day however to do that it will need a solid core of supporter and a growing community and I honestly think that with the current aircraft set that won't happen... People do not want to constantly feel like they are on the back foot and it will become tiresome. Blue pilots will leave, the Reds won't have anyone to fight against and what could have become the first true WW2 sim will come to nothing which would be a great shame. So you ask me what my aim here is, it is to point out the short comings in an attempt to ensure that this sim doesn't fail because no one else is providing me with what I want to see in regards to a high fidelity ww2 sim other than ED. This is not personal.

LOL committed until you decide it is time to speed off and come back with a height advantage ;)

I did a full power 3000rpm/18lbs at 3000m and ran dry after ~23 minutes for a little comparison. It certainly is more of handle compared to the 109 which requires pretty much zero management... Just turn on MW50 and job done!

I think it is fairly clear that he is saying that compared to all the other aircraft that it is a "wonder weapon"

Thank you RedShoes, nice to see another red & blue flyer agree. I do agree that going on TS helps however like you pointed out you do not require a team to fly and be successful in a 109.

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