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Are you sure? The F-4E was one of the slowest variants and the later naval variants and British -K/M probably have significant maneuverability advantages.

I'm not going to take wild guesses as what they could get, but I know France operated the F-8E (FN), which is quite different inside and out from the -J. The F-8 is another one of those things a dev for DCS nearly got right, but still got sorta wrong.

The Marine Corps did not use the -J model. There are significant external differences between the -J and earlier versions. Why not do an -E model, to cover the longest time range and enable a more diversity? The F-8J has been called an underpowered pig next to the F-8E, and offers little to justify the extra weight it took on.

+10000000 for the carrier based Phantom, needs 100% more devil dog and naval aviator Otherwise, what are we even going to do with it?

Ok well if you're just arguing to argue then this can go on for years. I would still like to see a -D Hornet as soon as possible, even if it means prioritizing it over other projects like the strike eagle.

It would work quite well if you want an F/A-18D but not an F-15E.

You said ED isn't developing it, I said the dev can't integrate it by themselves. I also said the F-18D should be made before the F-15E is integrated. Never said anything about stopping the work.

Not that what I say will matter, but do the F/A-18D first. It's simple.

Maybe it would be better if DCS worked on an F-18D before integrating the F-15E. Do you guys just think third parties integrate themselves into DCS?

Because priorities, and not everyone is going to want the F-15E.

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it would be air to air training with simulated missiles that track and hit, but do no damage

ED would need to focus on the fact that it's part of an expeditionary system, and is not related to the job or doctrine of the Apache at all. The Cobra would be marketed as flying from sea and land. A few awesome missions flying from the carrier and a good campaign would really turn the -W or -Z into a gem, since it really could be at home at literally any theater we have or will have. Im fact if ED brought it out with a UH-1Y and the upcoming C-130, they could sell it as an "expeditionary pack," occasionally including the Hornet and Harrier.

This is a great idea, and in my opinion should come before the F-15E. The -D in conjunction with LAU-10 white phos, can really be used for AFAC and interdiction. You can sort of try it with the F/A-18C at the moment, but having someone to operate the flir pod would really expand the job.

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It wasn't meant to be rude by saying "we already know you can set your keys up by yourself," and I'm certainly not sure why this equates to being entitled and demanding. My only concern is making sure people understand the question is about the guide, not about building your own binds. Out of deference and appreciation to Chuck's guides, I'm still waiting patiently to try the F1 until the 'experts' settle on HOTAS profile.

Totally agree. I believe they received a wiring upgrade and had limited anti corrosion measures made, in addition to the refueling probe.

I would fly the AH-1Z, even if it had a derringer in 22 short in the chin

This docu says the CF-5A was adopted for special use on NATO's flanks, like Norway and Turkey instead of Central Europe. Well, that fits well with the existing Turkey maps and the upcoming Norway map!

Does that really matter in cyber space? Right now our option is to put an RAF roundel on an Apache and fly it off a ship. A proper Cobra would scratch that itch a lot better.

This conclusion is probably flawed, as it ultimately comes down to unit training and mission priorities. Nobody is saying the Apache HAS to stay still, we are saying the Army wants it to stay still; nobody is saying the Cobra CAN'T stay still, we are saying the Marines want them moving for a variety of reasons. Manuals do not tell the whole story; people use experience to make adaptations, and the Marines made adaptations to their Cobra doctrine the Army has not in its Apache doctrine. "Taking what we know about those RF SAM systems, you could imagine that aircraft operating below ~150ft or so would be relatively safe from most of those systems. " But Hammer from Above has the Cobras flying between 300-600 ft, in the parts I have read.

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In Hammer From Above (formerly Hammer from the Sky, back when I was wrong), the Cobra pilots talk about moving around despite the perceived SAM threat. It's literally in USMC doctrine not to slow down in a threat environment.

Because his Wifi won't connect. USB tethering is an option for some phones.

Actually it's not about doctrine of era, it's about integrating service doctrine into the airframe. The Apache -D is designed to pogo around from behind trees. The Cobra is designed to keep moving around fast.