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Whatever gets us closer to an AV-8B Harrier II Plus.

Like this?

Perfect. That's just what is needed to fly the successful NVAF attack on the USS Higbee and Oklahoma City. https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-first-us-navy-ships-damaged-by-air-attack-since-the-end-of-world-war-ii-were-bombed-by-two-north-vietnamese-mig-17-pilots-trained-by-a-cuban-air-force-military-advisor/

This is one of the best updates in a while! MiG-17 is a day 1 buy for me, because I can see that so much has gone into this module by the Red Star team. While I personally have zero value for an Air Force F-4E without any carrier capabilities, I sure don't mind blowing them out of the sky! The Huey campaign looks interesting and I hope it takes advantage of the Caucaus map. Looking forward to it all.

Another reason why I'll be skipping the module until a proper tailhook model.

You can initiate your dive from a lower speed, use airbrake and even nozzles to control speed before you stabilize and fire.

How about we do the Harrier II+?

Thanks for your care and attention

Good questions. -B would be cool, even if it's a Navy-only version. The -E should be divided between early -Es and and late -Es. The late -Es added the flir ball.

Will this considered to fall under Modern or Cold War?

I'm not sure of your angle on this, but I can assure you there is ample footage of Su-25s interacting with matter. They don't go thru it.

ICE would be really awesome, since it was so specialized for service in the current environment.

Mantis, I've read everything I had patience for. I'm seriously not interested in going tit-for-tat over something completely unrelated to this thread. Maybe another place, maybe another time, but not here.

This framing doesn't really seem like you're setting up for much of a debate. I am not sure why we are using this thread to talk about things said or not said in other threads. Sorry you disagree with me, but I have not used myth as fact. Best wishes.

Exactly and I think the radome is unpainted in this one. Also, note the chin sensor does not seem to have the extra bump found in many jets around 1968-1969.

To be clear, I posted what my response would be in the situation you presented lol I've never targeted anybody and I've become quite comfortable resisting being called out. This is nothing but a consumer viewpoint in a market and it's nothing personal to me. I have consistently been for my viewpoint while not being against anybody else's. As a consumer in the market, I am able to present my point of view and that should not bother anybody else. Prove it's a myth.

Thank you for sharing your opinion. Nothing about your opinion threatens my enthusiasm. I hope you find enjoyment in other aspects, such as mastering effective MiG-21 tactics to give you an advantage against what will surely be droves of F-4 noobs.

road or runway; never mentioned my intent to fly it off the side of a road, aka dirt

Yes, it matters. Nothing starts at the base of the ramp; some length of road or runway is needed to build up enough speed to take off, even for the Su-25.

Please don't make this about me. I'm only talking about the airplane and commenting on the variants I would like to see.

I would be excited with the F-4E if it featured the upgrades making it a deadly resource in the skies of the 1990s and mid-2000s, such as the Greek and German variants. The Japanese actually have a very fascinating relationship with their Phantoms, and would be right at home on the Marianas map. The Turkish Terminator is a really awesome aircraft as well, and we already have 2 maps with Turkey in them. Alas, no we aren't getting those... just a couple of bland F-4Es and maybe if there's still interest we will see DCS Phantom return to carrier decks.

OK, but only if you promise to fly like a fighter pilot and not like the product of TAC trying to save its budget from SAC by cutting training costs In all seriousness, if we were only ever going to get a version of the Phantom that can't land on carriers, then I was really hoping for an F-4D for its sexy shape and capabilities.

*Mirage F1 has entered the chat.

That must be very exciting. I wonder how many Iranian F-4E pilots and mechs are ecstatic about DCS: F-4E ... I am, by the way, grinning at how that must come off, but I truly don't mean to dampen your excitement lol Just give me cat gear and a tailhook so I can put Marine Air online, please

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