BitMaster

So happy I got my 7800XT and call it a day. I wonder how long this insane trend will continue.

Well, can't tell from where I am. Not all Ports, there are 65.536 of them, are used by DCS but by a variety of services and apps etc.. Knowing which one belongs to which service can be tricky at first but looking up the ports in a general port list will tell you what Ports are usually used by certain services, like 80 = http, 21=ftp_handshake, 20 = ftp_data, 22 = ssh, etc etc etc. up to Port 1023 ( 0-1023 ) are called ROOT-PORTS and should not be used by anything other than OS services and well known services, see above, http, ftp, dns,smb and so on. So, for games and 99% of third party apps, you will find them between 1024 and 65535, look here for example https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml

It may be, many variables here so to say, that if your RAM is well accepted in the board of choice, that when you plug in AC from cold you will have a 2-3 second Boot, quick and smooth. Just when it "usually" takes a few attempts to sort the RAM until it boots and from there on also boots quick..this will likely redo the whole training, with a few reboots and beeps and what-not-else until it got sorted again and boots from cold...until you unplug AC again and it starts all over. Not a game breaker, just a PITA if you for whatever reason disconnect AC often. Yes, with 4 modules, for ages, it's advised to up the Voltage "slightly". This is maybe the best tip of them all and where I would start to solve the training issue, but each combo behaves a bit different, throw in some Bios versions and Betas and you have fun

From my own experience with cold boot times, it's usually caused by your RAM as said multiple times above. I could show you boards that do the trick in 1-2 seconds and if you change the RAM settings slightly it will take many many more seconds, up to several reboots to tune in the RAM, this is NOTHING new and needed if the Bios can't properly adjust the settings on first try.. What helps: #1: Update the Bios. New versions upport more RAM modules and usually train better #2: Up your RAM-Voltage "slightly", like 0.05-0.1v, this can do wonders. If your RAM boots/trains in 1-2 seconds w/o any XMP or other overclocking, then that is your benchmark when you enable XMP or overclock manually. With correct settings they hopefully train in a few seconds. When you unplug your PC from AC, your mobo will always fully train again 1st. time you power it up, mind that ! ( At least on the boards I own, sold or worked with that had these issues, a cold boot is "tabula rasa" for the board's RAM memory )

This old thread has all Ports listed you may need to control, depending of what you need to enable, inbound only or also outbound traffic.

It's the mix of things that turn me away. Firstly, gamer's needs are only 2nd or 3rd behind Ai in the overall design of the die. Hence only the moderate raw rastering power increase, then.. in exchange for lack of raw power we get things like DLSS and other goodies to fix what DLSS breaks when in use ( delaayyyyy ayayay and Artifactsactsas oops ) and on top of that, while we screw you anyway, let's rip you off too, BIG TIME. Jensen, know what, Thank you for the lesson taught. I am done with Nvidia. AMD is likely going the same way, I just hope their pricing remains more moderate and overall more gamer focused. edit* We are gamers, simmers, we want a 3D card and no Datacenter Derivate model that uses half of it's die for things totally useless for us, unless misguided by fake frames LoL

That's not the point, is the absurd philosophy behind it. "Der Krug geht zum Brunnen bis er bricht" comes to my mind

On what Planet does Jensen live ? I rather stop playing all together than paying big bucks for fake frames. This has gotten WAY out of control

MSI Afterburner in conjunction with Riva Statistics Tuner Server is usually quite smooth, taking also other demanding games and simulations in comparison. What does matter is the chip on your motherboard that is does query to your set extend, usally ITE or Nuvoton, and then the other peripherals that may be queried and may cause the jerks if they don't like to be queried together in one app or multiple queries in multiple apps ( MSI, Asus tool or any Mainboard tool, just ANY tool that interfers in the query ) HWinfo for example prompts the user if it finds chips in your system that are known to cause issues if you query them in HWinfo "together" with the other chips. That, likely holds just as true for other query apps. If you limit FPS for example, the best tool with the least interference is MSI Afterburner's Riva Statistics Tuner Server. Most if not any other app causes microstutter, and in the case of Nvidia App even cripples VMware services ( for many years now, mind that ! ). That has been discussed far and wide here before.

That should fix the CPU temp issue

I have yet only built 7800x3d and 7600x3d as a systembuilder. For my taste your cooler is 1-2 steps too small. DH15 DH14 or better Dh15G2 if you prefer air coolers. AIO I would Not consider any 240er, better 280, 360 0r 420 you also need proper case venting, dont forget. anyway, 95C is too for DCS. test prime95 and See of it holds clocks and Safe Tempos, I assume it will Not pass the Test Terrible autocorrection on mobile…sorry

Maybe a quick fix, if the Boot order got messed up and you may not know which device to choose. In Bios, you should have an option in "Boot Settings" to override the boor order with a device of your choice.. which will not change any settings but will try one time to boot from that device / bootmanager. You should see 1 entry called "Windows Boot Manager" on your OS-Drive "C", try that. Windows can boot directly off the C-drive, you dont need any kickstart partition or such anymore. If that works, select that as your future ( was it in your past very likely as well ) boot device. If you have Dual Boot with Mint, you have MULTIPLE entries and options to boot Windows. You can go the Microsoft way and use the obove mentioned "Windows Boot Manager" on C drive or use the GRUB Bootloader and choose in Mint's Boot Menue where you wanna go, Mint or Win11. I have it that way but my Bios is Windows Boot Manager and if I need to boot Mint I use F12 and select Mint. Other way round will always end it Linux if I reboot Windows, it's a pain to change Boot order in Grub these days. There are also many Help pages on how to fix boot issues with the MS console....BUT you need to get to console first to do that fixmbr thing.

Gianky, the details you don't provide have the info we need to tell you what's actually happeneing. Right now, too many things could trigger it. Version A: Your NVMe "only" holds the "C" drive but your initial start partition is on another disk that may have an issue, logical or hardware wise. Version B: as above, just .. your other disk is going nuts and kills the Bus, just had that yesterday on a client machine, it happens ! Version C. Your Bios is totally messed up. Make sure your Boot settings are valid for your setup ( CSM, Secure Boot, selected drive order..etc..drive ) Boot Mint, open GParted, select your NVMe, make a screenshot of the partitions it holds and report back. Meanwhile, WHILE YOU STILL CAN, make abackup of your personal files through Mint. * Mint, is a good choice ! Bit

Keep it. I might deinstall any apps that belong to your old board, Sound-BT-LAN-LED etc.. and copy the drivers from the new board to the disk before you reboot to change parts. If you have no Key, tie your install to your MS account before you do so, to be able to reactivate with "I recently changed my Hardware.."

KKSnowbear, good point and valid. Keep the information quality at a high level and avoid or even fight misunderstandings before they spread and wreck havoc on someones mainboard. I do the same stupid job as KKS and I have seen the same mess over years, it's a tragedy that could have been avoided in almost all cases if there had been more understanding.

One could tinker with the idea to buy one of those UNSUPPORTED games that prohibit 24H2 to install just to not get it installed, or attach a known not supported USB gadget just to stop it for the time. I run it on this rig and I wish I hadn't been so curious about it, the whole experience sucks when your File Explorer crashes over and over again doing certain tasks and some other really annoying stuff in the GUI. On my 2nd gaming rig it wouldn't install at all, what a gift actually, despite it tried to install day after day, night after night for about two weeks until it vanished from the update list by itself, still on 23H2. So at some point MS figured out, this machine won't install it as is. Even stranger, I tried to FRESH INSTALL 24H2 on that rig and it told me this machine is not Win11 ready, LOL...it's running 11 ever since it came out and before too, every version there was until 24H2. 24H2 sucks big time and I hold it back on each and every machine I manage.

That shows how sensible the whole setup is to mistuned minor accessories. Having a 9800X3D, a 4090, tons of RAM and lots of SSD space is no sure ticket to joy, the devil is buried deep in the detail in many cases. Good find btw !

Oh boy, I am that close to pull the trigger on the 9800X3D My daughter needs a PC and I think my current one with another GPU ( likely 4060 ) just fits her needs, just Daddy then needs a new CPU/MoBo/RAM kit. Despite a B650 was actually enough, I am looking at the 870E Gigabyte Aorus Master. I have the 570 Master and this board is the best in years I have come across and I would like to repeat this experience after I had a few Asus and MSI mishaps before that. Anyone with this board yet ?

I set it to medium with a few things at high in DCS, like view distance and clouds. You have to fly and see what scenarios are ok and where you might drop below 60fps, which rarely happens. In Catalyst all I set is Low Lag ,Enhanced Sync and FreeSync. That's basically how I run all games. Where supported, you can use AMD's FSR instead of TAA for better image quality ( hope I got those terms right, LoL ). FSR3 Frame generation and upscaling...I dunno...they give better fps but come at a price, latency and lesser quality in some cases. For any not-so-fast-paced game this is better suited but on the othe rhand, there you dont really need it, so I dont really get the idea behind it if more FPS means also worse latency, that's the wrong priority in my world.

Wasn't there an issue that you have to reinstall your OS if you ever switch the ( AMD 7 series ) CPU ? Forgot what's the reason but iirc there is something to it. So if you havent reinstalled from scratch, that's likely it.

For your next OCD attack Take a look at the new MoRa-IV up to 600 for some massive passive cooling and cool looks. When you combine the right aRGB-Res/Pump with it it looks really nice. And to the QD, using them since 2015, non-stop usage, not the slightest glitch. They are heavy, that's one thing to obey. Alaso makes flushing/ fluid change easy with a Y-hose with 2 QD's and a drain valve...and a bucket. If you use QD directly on the blocks themselves is best imho, all female, and all your hoses are males, easy switching things if or exclude GPU for a test etc.. .

Man, it looks really nice, but as you said, a PITA to service anything. Why not move it all outside ? the new MoRa-IV looks awesome too btw. I went that way, external, and soft tubing with Quick Connects, I admit, not as nice to look at, but taken apart in 90 seconds down to the bare bones.

This or a new macMini with M4, both CPU's are outstanding.

Speaking for the planet, it's a good thing both, AMD & Intel, need less wattage for the same amount of work as their predecessors. At least for this round the spiral of ever increasing wattage and heat on even smaller dies has been paused. I think, Intel is more cautious this time and wants to avoid a 2nd debacle by all means, even if they just dial in performance to "parity" but stay within safe limits of the circuits. If I had such a CPU I would not OC it until guys who dont have to pay for them have found their limits and some time has passed to see if something emerges in the news, wouldnt surpise me, teething issues as with every new tech, like Zen 1 as many already said. This won't happen with like a dozen Bios updates and all of them will have their reasons. Time will tell. I am still keen on the 9800X3D, even if I loose 4 cores.

The only thing tricky and very unforgiving when putting the bare bones together is the socket. One stupid move and it's ruined. That must be said. Over the decades the number of pins has significantly increased and as sturdy modern BGA CPU's have become in handling through not having pins anymore the more fragile the socket pins have become, coupled with the price inflation on newer Boards this has become one the things one should really care for, insert in properly, 1st time, always, no miss or you are screwed and left with 7 bend pins, ultra tiny.