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I'd personally be kind of iffy on a fully realized Frogfoot. I'd still get it and I still think a lot of people would definitely as well.

Oh my God. I think you can sue for that. Yeah, you should definitely sue.

It strikes me that, perhaps, HB did finish the Phantom "in time," but they've been working with ED on its final stages. They may have sent it off to ED for final approval and what not, but it just wasn't enough to hit it in time.

Asking fighter jockeys about something us strike chads want? SMH, clear bias! Also @F1GHTS-ONI hear you and definitely see you POV. I think it's a reasonable one since it's one that accepts that this is a video game. We're not actually about to go downtown to Hanoi or skim over the Iraqi coast on a winter night in 1991, we're just playing with toys. I don't think it's a perspective that's lost, but it's one that doesn't take precedent in many minds with some frequency. However, the insistence on access to these documentations when needed is more out of professional pride by ED, HB, and other teams. It's their mission statement and goal to deliver the most accurate simulation possible and getting the input of operators and manufacturers is essential. RAZBAM's experience with the Mirage 2000 is a good example for this. The purists will whine that slats activate .3 of a knot too soon, they'll point out that this particular individual A-6 never flew for the ATKRON depicted in promos, and all that, but that's the case with every module. At the end of the day, we should demand this accuracy, we should demand this realism, but we should also accept that flight simulation is imperfect.

1929 and beyond got kinda crappy.

This is correct.

I respect the hustle, though.

Is '23 the year? I'm feelin' it! It looks great.

Bro, if you're act like this is an imageboard, expect that behavior to be returned in kind.

Also, given that it's supposedly in the most advanced state out of the aforementioned modules, it's the one that makes the most sense.

Exciting either way.

It's all we can do, really. With them stating it's super close to finished, I'm sure it's close. Whether that close is relative to a human life time or some form of cosmic ageless being? That is the real question.

It's time.

It's always key to remember that dates for DCS shouldn't be seen as commandment. My word to the Phantom Phanatics would be that us Fishbed Afishianados (there are 10s of us) had quite the roller coaster of emotions leading up to the MiG-21's release, even flirting with potential cancellation.

If your alarm clock fails to go off at 8AM, does it mean that it isn't morning?

Things change, delays happen, and the globalized nature of this biz can be interrupted by things like, oh I don't know, war. It's time to stop trying to unravel the mystery, time to stop explaining how HB can still totally release in '22, or find some nefarious plot that doesn't exist, and accept reality: They tried their damnedest. That's all they can really promise. Oh no, our toy is a few weeks or months late, whatever shall we do? Wait. That's all we can do.

That'd have to be applied to basically every module, though. They all make some deviations for various reasons. Our Hornet doesn't carry the Litening on the cheek mount, for example. Remember: Black Shark first launched in 2008. ED worked with references to a much older example, possibly one even developed from the original V-80s. As posted here, we have Ka-50s from 2007 with the MWS installed. If this is something that annoys, one can always switch the Black Shark version to 2011 in the editor.

Absolutely agreed. Shadowplay is too good.

Oh thanks for posting this, I needed this.

Paranoia and bureaucracy are, indeed, the issues here. As for the privately owned Su-27s, they were Su-27UBs. However, they just basically disappeared. Both were purchased by a company called Meridian consulting and haven't flown under their registration of N131SU and N132SU in over a decade. It's suspected they're toys locked away in Groom Lake, now. Even if they were accessible, the issue is still that enough of ED's employees are still in Russia.

For what it's worth, I'd view this as the closest we'll get to the Ka-52 for the foreseeable future.

Find me software that doesn't. Open Beta is the one that has the most serious ones.

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