Bearskin

Yes I had a 27 inch 144 Hz illyama which was great but limited in sims, I got a rift 1 about 2017 and a Pico 4 on day 1. The bigger monitor I have now, a Samsung g7 240 Hz 32 inch has made a massive difference, but I still fly DCS in VR, it still brings a smile to my face when I look out over the wing of my Spitfire, or look over at the racks of GBU 12's loaded onto my A-10. Before I got the rift, I brought down my 46 inch 1080p TV from the bedroom and DCS looked amazing on it so I was ready to pull the trigger on a bigger monitor, but I saw an advert for a rift for £350 from Argos which seemed a steal compared to the prices of the bigger monitors back then.

I couldn't go back to flat screen in DCS after flying in VR, but it is a different story with driving sims, I recently bought Forza motorsport, and after playing it, I am now 40/60 using VR or flat screen on all my driving sims. I think it has to do with buying a bigger curved monitor. Before I couldn't sit in the drivers seat looking through the windscreen with the smaller monitors I have used in the past, I had to do the bonnet cam. Now though with the bigger curved monitor, I can sit in the drivers seat and still have pretty good awareness and vision, and the graphics are amazing using a monitor, ACC I have only every played in VR and it isn't the best looking sim in VR, but I started playing it on my monitor after getting Forza and it looks amazing. I never thought I would play any of my sims non VR ever again, but a bigger monitor certainly changed my mind.

I had the same problem a few months back where DCS kept crashing, I reduced visible range from Ultra down to high and I haven't had a crash since. This was my experience, maybe not yours but I just thought I would throw it out there just in case it helps.

I removed the screws because my TM stick on my TM base had a few millimetres of play (twist), and as it said, "you need to remove the two screws to allow the Thrustmaster stick to twist/rotate...". I am happy to say though, that I have zero play with my TM stick on my WarBRD-D base, it is solid as a rock.

I built a new machine last May, my mate followed suit with the same spec. I play, DCS, Il2, Elite Dangerous, RF2, ACC, AC, AMS2, F1 23, I have a Pico 4 and he has a G2. MSI Z970 Tomahawk wi-fi DDR 5, 13700K, MSI 4080 gaming x trio, corsair vengeance 32 gig 5600 DDR 5 (make sure you get the intel or AMD set depending), Artic liquid freezer ll 240 RGB, (I put an extra 2 fans on from my old artic freezer). I went with the crucial P3 plus gen 4 2 TB and 500 GB NVMe as I already had a 1 TB Samsung SSD and still have a WD 1 Tb HDD for music and photos. The 13700K can give you 5.3 boost, but I turn off Intel turbo boost and keep it at 3.4 and the temp rarely gets above 50c, with turbo boost on the temp gets to high 70's low 80's depending on the game, but I am not keen on seeing temps like that even though it is within temp limit, maybe I am too old school. The only thing I dislike about the MSI board is when you update your Bios, you could lose your windows key as it thinks you have upgraded your hardware, so tie the windows key to your Microsoft account and that should fix it.

The WarBRD-D base arrived last Thursday, so just under 2 weeks from ordering, what a difference from the stiction of the TM base. I haven't changed the cams or springs from the Aviasim soft centre cams and standard springs (pre fitted). I had a mess around with the clutch but put it back to lightest. I am well impressed, I never liked flying the Huey because the stiction in the hog base made it very difficult to land, I just could not get the miniscule movement happening, was always fighting the stick, and crash landed maybe 6 out of 10 times, also forget about landing on a ship or near an injured soldier, but now with the WarBRD-D base I am landing the Huey on a dime. The spitfire too is amazing with this base, it used to take me ages to strafe a convoy, because of the stiction I could never line up the Plane in time, no matter how far away I started my run, I was always having to fight the stiction. I tried it yesterday with the new base and I took out half the convoy on my first pass, straight down the line. I am thinking the cosmo soft centre might suit me even better but that is for an other day. RIP Don, very sad news.

Ordered a WarBrd last Friday and today I checked and they have just come back in stock, fingers crossed for the 48 hour process, might have it by Monday.

Open composite also has the side effect of turning the Pico screen black whilst still showing the game on the monitor. Especially if you take the headset off for a few minutes, when you come back the Pico screen is black with the white circle going round and round.

Thanks for the replies, I have had a look around different forums and it seems like if its on back order, you order what you want, then they build it, when they have the parts. Just bad timing on my part that the warthog decides to pack in just before the Christmas rush and just after the black Friday sales. Oh well, driving sims and FPS for a while. I will give support a try and see what they say Thanks again.

My Warthog stick base has finally packed in after 10 years, no buttons are registering but in the windows test, button 1 lights up all the time then if I touch the wires all the buttons light up. I never liked the stiction anyway so instead of getting another Warthog base I have decided to get a virpil Warbrd and use my Warthog stick. My question is, does anyone know from past experience how long Virpil products are usually on back order, if it is going to be months then I might have to go for winwing.

On the Pico I found as soon as DCS world starts after the Steam mountain thing, press the left controller hamburger button (or whatever button your controllers use to get back to steam) and it enables me to choose DCS world application and alter the resolution, if I do it after DCS has loaded then it doesn't work.

So I tried opencomposite and DCS world crashed, so that is out, next I started DCS without FPSVR and it is stutter free, still in the game I started FPSVR and it was stutter city again, closed FPSVR and stutter free. So for me turning of FPSVR fixed it.

1. DCS exe started through VD 1a. DCS exe started through launch game with the VD streamer 2.DCS exe shortcut with the force vr open xr line started through VD 2a DCS exe shortcut with the force vr open xr line started through launch game with the VD streamer 3.MTDCS exe started through VD or the launch game with the VD streamer 4. MT DCS exe shortcut with the force vr open xr line started through VD or the launch game with the VD streamer. I have the same problem with the stuttering, with options 3 and 4 only, but for the first time since I swapped out the Rift for the Pico I can get 90 FPS external view looking up at the plane from underneath, so the MT patch is working, free flight in the HOG I have gained 15 to 20 percent. So for example, sat on the runway it is good, but like Temetre says as soon as I move my head, it is like it is running at 10 FPS, with everything stuttering and bouncing, even though I am getting 60 to 70 FPS. When I chose a quick mission with options 3 and 4, the MT ones, like I have read on other pages, the plane and scenery take about 30 seconds to load, starts off with the sea, then renders bits of plane and scenery a bit at a time, the few posts I have read where this and the stuttering is happening only seems to be with Pico 4 users (correct me if I am wrong) Starting with option 1 opens Steam VR, option 1a doesn't start Steam VR, options 2,2a,3 and 4 all start Steam VR even though option 3. launch game with the VD streamer should work the same as 1a unless open xr has been coded into MT like it was when openxr was first available for DCS, before it was taken out and the shortcut method was introduced. I haven't tried opencomposite yet as the MT patch was making me feel sick for the first time, in VR. I am really looking forward to the next few patches where hopefully the stuttering a few of us are experiencing could be solved.

Going in the right direction, I have gone from 55 FPS to 65 FPS, FPSVR CPU graph has gone from just into the orange above the middle line, to all green just below the middle line, but unfortunately it is stuttering like mad.

The two ways I am starting DCS world are : 1. Launching VD, clicking the VD streamer icon on my taskbar, launch game, ignoring the warning and clicking the DCS world EXE in my Bin folder. 2. Launching VD, clicking the DCS shortcut I created with the --force_enable_VR --force_OpenXR, this works just as well, but game m/s is 20 as opposed to 10 in option 1, a handfull of FPS less and a bit more latency than in option 1, plus with option 1, Steam VR doesn't start. I am having a problem with option 1, if I take off my headset to go get a drink or have a smoke, when I come back, I put the headset on, click the use boundary as is, then all I get is a black screen with the white circle, DCS is still running on my desktop but it doesn't appear in my headset. I can long press the hamburger button on my left controller to bring up VD and switch to desktop, then back to VR and still a black screen with the white circle. Option 2 goes straight back into DCS on my headset after I click the boundary button.

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I have a 2080 and I use either Ultra @100 or High @ 150, (High at 120 for the Apache), so Ultra with your 3070 should be doable. Do you mean 90 FPS in VD ? If so, I have mine set to 90 so I have no idea why it is not possible for you.

I have never used winwing, but I assume they probably come with drivers like the Warthog does, in the control panel - programs and features, there should be a mention of winwing drivers that is the place I would start, delete the drivers, reboot and keep the winwing stuff unplugged and see if your joystick is recognised in DCS. I will have a chat to my mate early next week and get him to fire up DCS and see if his joystick is recognised with his winwing throttle.

You said you downloaded a free trial from Steam of Falcon 4, are you using the Steam version of DCS ?

Hey Pluton, my mate has the same problem, his thrustmaster throttle broke so he bought a winwing one and he had the same problem in Elite Dangerous, since he got the winwing throttle, elite dangerous no longer recognises his Thrustmaster Joystick. I don't think he has tried DCS world since he got the Winwing throttle, but I know he has it working in Il2. Not much help I know, but there is definitely a problem for some people using this setup. As Lange_666 advised, I would uninstall the Winwing software and just see if DCS recognises the Thrustmaster Joystick.

I bought one of the ethernet to usb-c adapters with charger (the same one as in the youtube video) and I ended up returning it, DCS world and RF2 was shocking about 10 FPS, and there was no difference in the other flying or driving games. I get 866 on Wi-Fi 5 and TBH my Pico 4 has relatively been plug and play from day one when I bought Virtual Desktop. Sure everybody wants better, but with all the videos of people doing this and doing that, saying that it makes the Pico better, IMO is just making people restless and not liking the headset. I mean, start Virtual Desktop, start DCS world not that complicated really.

I used to be a server admin in a clan playing BF2, I used clanforge to take regular screenshots of all the players on the server and if I suspected someone of aimbot I could record thier play and see them spinning on the spot. Some nights I wouldn't even play BF2 and just spend hours watching clanforge. It made me sick to my stomach how many cheats there were that I had to ban and that was just one server out of the hundreds of BF2 servers. So when some moron comes on here and accuses me of using "dirty hacks" without any idea of what he/she is talking about then that offends me. I have used Steam since I played counter strike source back in the mid noughties and personally I have never liked it, IMO it causes more conflict than it should, maybe it isn't Steams fault, maybe it is the game coders not fully adapting to Steam, but whatever it is I tend to have more game crashes using Steam/SteamVR than anything else. So anything I can use to bypass SteamVR is a godsend.

Amen to that.

It seems like some people are now jumping onto propelors bandwagon and his twisted logic that openxr/opencomposite are "Dirty Hacks", this must be the only forum to call said programmes Hacks. I wouldn't think the software makers would be too happy of the liberal use of the word Hack in this forum when describing their software. Opencomposite : this will translate openvr to openxr and avoid going through Steam. No aim-bot here, no no-fog here, no ESP here, no god mode here, no speed hack here, blah blah, blah. This is an emulation software, and if this is a hack then so too is Virtual Desktop. Using Virtual Desktop to bypass the Pico streaming software. Hypocrite : a person who pretends to have virtues or qualities that he or she does not have Have a nice day.

No, I am firing up DCS world with opencomposite only, as far as I know the PICO doesn't natively support openxr yet. I didn't download the openxr toolkit, it says you can use the toolkit with opencomposite to tweak your games, but it seems, on these forums, no one has been able to get the menu to work. As long as I can use DCS without Steam VR I am happy and I can put VD setting from Medium to High with a 2080, and still get more FPS than SteamVR on medium. YMMV.