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The lack of clearly visible rivets is because of a new high tech thing called filler, same idea like the white stuff you use to fill up cracks in walls. And every new airframe is smooth and shiny like the F-35A aa-1, your Boeing 777 and 737-NG might be stealthy for that same reason as well :P It does heve less rivets than your Tomcat or some other 3/4 gen plane. And the horizontal stab looks nice, as do the MDC lines on the canopy, I'm beginning to like this little, but very advanced bugger. BTW, is it having the HMD already? Because I don't see a HUD frame.

I think we all can agree on the fact that the Harrier has more day to day value, and not some doomsday thinking paranoid approach ala F-22. The F-35B will be better in terms of flight control safety, possibly reduce the amount of 'pilot error' incidents. The engine is nearly twice as powerful as the one of the Harrier, so a 40% increased burn rate is not that bad, even without afterburner use. Something tells me, with all the weight commotion, that the F-35B will always fly with 2 fuel tanks, or some jettisonable CFTs when it's in service. I do know almost certain that some pilots will perish due to some FBW fluke in the STOVL version, or a lift fan failure of some sort :/. Unless they install an auto ejection system, but I doubt on that, since they like the conservative approach for such things.

Cool, nice vid, liked the VTOL engine test.

I would say a Cobra landing on the kuz in a su-27 is very hard to do without wing, and a moving carrier, as the Cobra script always lets you exit at 250 kph, and with optimal braking (airbrake deployed, flaps retracted at touch down) the su-27 needs no more than 185 km/h, otherwise you'll overshoot. That and the fact that the brake chute does not deploy makes it kind of hard to loose those 65 km/h, unless you 'cheat' with wind and a Kuz at 32 kts

Here is the aviapoortort.ru link http://www.aviaport.ru/directory/aviation/461.html I cant type well, have a virus 0of so0me kind )O appears like o0 (I CANT TYPE THE LETTER O)\ ^Just discovered that after my super glue-ing experience yesterday some keys are glued together, I see a great potential in this technique in the cheating community. They can jump, while reloading a gun and throwing granades at the press of one key, without any software. I feel tarded, and happy at the same time, happy because I ddin't glue my hand to a door knob, or any other knob.

A B-1 converted for your own big lazy arse, with a bomb-bay pool, gold plated piddle bags and velvet ejection seat padding mixed nicely with some extinct jaguar fur. All the targeting systems have been removed and replaced by Atari arcade screens, while all the flight data is displayed on one LED screen (LED like on the F-16A, not like in OLED). You get a Snake Plissken watch if you order it by the end of this month.

Remember that commercial with a Harrier on the driveway? With some good rudderwork you might even be able to do a short take-off in my street, I don't mind the asphalt being burned.

Stick control, throttle and borderline low speed my young padawans, or whatever it's spelled like. Landing a vanilla su-25 is easier than the T, as it's lighter. I can land the vanilla with 2 fuel tanks, but overshoot in a 25t with 2 tanks.

Так што, чипуху пишут на aviaport.ru? А у вас есть ссылка на ети новости про атомных авиационных крейсера?

If you build something the FBI will know too :P Mizzy, I know it's a game for entertainment, but in the past I've seen some members of the 'younger generation' who think that fighting a war is some easy and clean business. While not having any personal experience with wars, I judge from the stories and videos (which might be wrong too, but to me it seems like pictures only show a tiny fraction of how really horrible it is), and seeing the things people do to eachother makes me want to disgust all warfare technology. On the other hand, I always like to see military aircraft, missiles, bombs, in short things that are meant to kill people. Call me a hypocrite :/

The 'production' Su-27KUB will have 5 MFDs, 4 with a 15 inch diameter, and one with 21'. A HMD/HMS is also planned to remove the need for a HUD. The plane weighs as much as the single seat su-33 due to composite use. This combined with a greater wing area, new seamless elastic composit leading edge flaps, bigger control surfaces and uprated engines with TVC will make this plane very, very capable. Fact remains that the design itself is over 10 years old already, and will not come into service for at least another 5-10 years. By the time it takes the skies it will already be obsolete compared to the Rafale-M and F-35C.

In any case, seeing still capable and modern aircraft being cut up is a sad sight, considering all the thought went into each design. And if you think Iran is some kind of threat to whoever, then remember that they have at least 12 kh-55s. Personally I think Iran is just another country trying to say nobody should meddle in their internal affairs, I admire that. It would be better if it was an open country, but in this way it at least shows some character towards the world. Imagine what would happen if Russia and China would decomission their defensive nuclear deterrent force? Ukraine is the only nation with capability to design nuclear weapons that gave up all kinds of nuclear arms, that is admirable even though I can almost guarantee that financial factors played an important role in that. I know all this peace talk isn't fit for a combat flight sim, but IMHO digital violence is the only kind that should not be frowned upon. War is not fun/clean/tactical/surgical/cool/good no matter how you name it. Having said that I also realise that we are human beings that like to kill, rape, plunder and have feelings of jealousy... So maybe cutting up warplanes (that's what they all are, no matter if you can shoot a .50 cal, or drop nuclear bombs) is a good thing.

Ukrainian Air Force. They were in service, well maintained (so not standing somewhere, rotting away) even came to Fairford a couple of times. I've seen all the M variants in a museum, and well, the M3 looked really good. As I said cutting up your own inventory because you're paranoid is one thing, but 'forcing' other nations to cut up their inventory is a lot worse.

So, in turn boosting Iran's industry by not giving them any alternatives but to build the parts themselves, nice. Just accept that on some countries you can't have a direct influence and seek others to exploit. You know what's even sadder? To see perfectly fine Tu-22M3s being scrapped because the US said so, now that is a shame (see the difference, the F-14 belongs to the US, the Tupolevs don't). Lol, paranoid motherf*****s, and yet they want to have and sustain the best offensive force in the world.

The stick and rotor hub are all new, go for it I'd say, rob that damn bank, that Cobra has a new stick with it. Dunno if it's as long as the old one though, but at least you can take pics of it, and we will measure the stick length.

I can, did it with the Su-27 in Flanker, did it with the miggie, A-10 and maybe F-15 (don't remember about that one) on the Kuz, no headwind, nothing, 20 degree C TAT, stationary Kuz, no ACS failures, just landed without bitching. Also landed a su-33 missing half a wing, landed a wingless su-33, but all with the arrestor. Oh, also put down the Su-33 without using a hook, as brake pads are cheaper than stressing the airframe. (su-25s too, but those are easy to land) Also done some meint flyables, F-117, S-3 maybe some others.

Timur Apakidze was a great guy, nobody should die in such manner, RIP (again). Don't be mistaken, the first two KUB airframes were su-33 converts, and you know how it is with Russian prototypes, first the airframe, then the electronics (plus new MFDs need to be certified and such). As you all know the Su-27KUB and su-34 are one of my biggest fetishes, especially electronics wise, so this video is really nice, I've seen it posted a while ago, but thought it was with that song that Timur sang. If only he ejected 6 years ago :/ Realy nice video, guess they folded the wings before taxiing, that or the ramp officer is some ace

Классные фотки, особенно вот эта: http://forums.airforce.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=7258&d=1183115492

Back to the future 3!!! That same train will appear in the nineties and will fly better than any Black Shark or Aurora

I know Soviet Mi-26 pilots always flew it with a 5 tonne load (a command truck of some old type) in its cargo hold, otherwise it would be unable to land.

A-10C... Besides, ED members participate(d?) in the development of various Sukhoi trainers

Seriousely, the only country that may ever face the F-22 is Venezuela, and 16 or so Su-30MKVs won't do them much good. But boy are those planes handy for non fictional scenarios, like shooting rockets at rebels, shooting down cokeheads and other drug runners. (they can smuggle all the weed they want though, as long as it's good, but all that coke/heroin-whatever crap should be shot down) So relax about the F-22, it will do what it was designed for, and being agile is only an extra, for the time the pilot runs out of missiles (mission planner's head will roll). It does what it says for 200 mil $, and if it did not, nobody would say it out loud anyway because of the money involved. So the F-22 is good no matter what, and if not, then we might know in 30 years This airshow vid is good IMHO, it finally shows (no, not everything) what the Raptor can do, and seeing planes dance in the sky is always nice.

You're basing your conclusion, that the Russian TVC jets lack controllability and fbw systems based on a sluggish ('controllable') airshow performance by the F-22? At what point can you see 'loss of control' in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o54wA52UUo&mode=related&search= ? And the MKI has a lower thrust/weight ratio than the F-22, plus it's at least 1.5 times heavier (more momentum), but loss of control? Only time it loast control was when it scraped the ground in 1999, that was loss of control. Since when are the mig-29 and su-30/35 stable? I don't see a big 'Now, featuring stable aircraft configuration for you scared customers' on their site...

I never stated that I was impressed or awed, just that it finally gives a more energetic performance instead of the lame routines before this show. PS, what makes you think the Russian birds don't have properly practiced and approved airshow routines? And what makes you think they display their full maneuvrability potential? For instance, the Su-30MKI never did a full yawing reversion of flight direction in horizontal flight in any airshows, yet, the Indian air force uses this maneuver in training flights.

Ofcourse it is, their show is way better even though the su-35 is heavier, but this is the F-22 with all the delicate coatings and engines. Seems like they worked out the quirks performance stability wise.