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Where have you been the last 16 years? ED makes mostly Russian aircraft because they can get their hands on manuals, pilots and other personnel that will provide the needed info and experience. How do you know the customers in the 'USSR' (Hi there comrade MCP) are happy with ED's service? The Russian forums are also full of 'F-15 lacks this, we need realistic Vikhrs, the A-10 is too sluggish' kind of whining. If any, it's worse over there, as the F-15, A-10 and the 'Soviet' aircraft are all bad, and everything is not moddled correctly. Here all we hear mostly is the F-15 whining. Oh, think of teh time zones, and how many people speak Russian. Then think about how many are taught English from the cradle, even though it's not their native language.

The same guys that designed that seat everyone is jealous about ;) You know, having a helmet still strapped to your head while egressing at 300 knots might be a reason for its 'uglyness', that and the need to house the solar filter in it. Thus not scratching the thing and eliminating the need for transarent filters like the dumba**es in the 'West' use in everything flying, from the Harrier to the F-22. That's the reson why they're ugly, someone thought about the helmet as an integral part of the egress system, and not part of the flight suit, that and they used their brains instead of stacking 3 different filters on top of the helmet and then wonder why ejecteed get their face smashed up. But hey, it looks cool, doesn't it, broken teeth, dislocated jaws, scars. At least the helmet looks cool, yaay.

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It depends on the type of ejection seat used. The age of that system, older systems generate ~22 vertical Gs for about 0.2 seconds, the windspeed, wether it was an ejection through the canopy or not. Most 'current' rocket assisted ejection seats (MB Mk. 14/16, ACES II, Zvezda K-36DM series 2) generate vertical acceleration loads of around 18G for 0.25-0.45 seconds. The actual load varies greatly, this due to the condition of the rocket pack and the type of catapult that is used prior to rocket ignition. Then we have the forces of windblast and decelleration prior to main parachute deployment, as now known (due to a 10 year old documentary appearing on youtube :P) the forces of windblast are the real hazards of egress. For example, when ejecting at 600 kts at 25000 ft (numbers are rusty, but it was high and fast) the force needed to hold on to one ejection handle of the K-36. And let me remind you that the K-36 has two handles, so the forces per hand are lower compared to the 'D-ring' ejection handle used on most Martin Baker and ACES II seats. The conclusion from American military scientists is that the grip used on the K-36 is the best kind of grip configuration to reduce the grip strength needed. I made a nice chart using some data from a test report, which was made with both Russian and American test equipment, the flight suit used was KKO-15. Only test 6 used the KKO-5 flight suit. This will give you some detailed insight on what kind of forces are involved in a high speed ejection. Here are the neck load limits during the entire ejection sequence, the -Z axis correponds with the vertical G loading.

Doing such things or crazier (inverted low level runway passes in a su-25T) is one thing, doing such deeds in the real world without lawn darting is something else. Wow. Wasn't it some wings episode in which he flew the Su-27UB? I remember he said the su-27UB gained speed so fast that you had to pull up immediately after rotation in order not to overspeed the landing gear.

While on youtube, I found this video, very cool, but slightly unrelated. This guy is the next Einstein or something, holding so much smoke for that long is like, astronomical

Got this while searching for some ejection video on youtube Apparently his HUD froze up, and when he looked at the back-up instruments he saw that the plane was at Mach 1.1 and diving vertically. Dunno if that's mentioned in the documentary, but an article I read a while ago (~7 years) said that. I suggest looking for 'Mirgorod 1992 su-27ub', that really is impressive, a post crash ejection. It's similar to the one in Lviv in 2002, where ~84 people died and hundreds more got injured, but this incident in 1992 took "only" 1 life, that being the back seater getting ejected into the ground while the plane was desintegrating :/

Your evil twin from an alternate universe, he has a small beard as well. PS, I read your nick like evilbot1 for like... a year or more :doh:

Imagine the possibilities with the augmented vision system coupled to the IRST on the F-35, man that is like science fiction, yet it will be really operational, and really good.

No need for drama, sh** can happen to anyone, they have their reasons, go and enjoy some aviation movies in the maintime. People having reactivation problems can post in the payment issues thread.

Mil has tremendous experience with the Mi-2 operating from ice breakers :P But seriousely, yes, a navalised Ka-52 with VK-2500 engines makes a good candidare for such a role. But then again, such fleet would be unnecessary for Russia. They don't have any intentions of invading overseas lands, just a deterrent fleet. Ideally there should be a new design from either of those, or maybe a ANSAT helicopter will be chosen, given its light weight. It will be a great patrol helicopter, the question is, will it be capable enough to operate from water. The article posted by Evilbot stated that the Panther Plus USV was developed by a Russian company, it's tested by them, ok, but developed, no.

Let's hope it will show like 'Somewhere in the future' in the BS release date field.

I was talking about navalising the Ka-50, and yes good ideas, now Sukhoi make that damn MFI, no need to keep the su-27 flying for 80 years.

EECH2 is a disgrace, a modded EECH 1 is better, gives you more fps with the same eye candy and flight dynamics. You can't even do a rolling take-off in EECH 1,2 and all the mods. 7 years ago that was acceptable, but that isn't the case now, same goes for Falcon 4 and all its mods. Yeah, great new textures and nice Aim-9Xes, but in the end the FM is still based on the same rules as the one from 1997.

Navalising a plane is not just putting new landing gear under it, it needs usually new, electronics, nav systems, corrosion resistant parts, you name it. Luckly the use of composite materials is widespread, allowing to solve such problems. And yes, they could upgrade the su-34 aerodynamically wise, but then the Airforce would ask for more testing, which will delay the program even more. The canards could be removed, seamless (more stealthy, and lower drag) leading edge flaps, new engines (al-41). All that can be added or removed from the Su-34, but it would make the handling different, and a recertification would be required. Face it, the Su-34 is not a revolutionary plane, and it's also nearly 20 years old. Combine that with limited in-service numbers and you can guess that no upgrade will be made to its aerodynamics in the next 10 years.

Thanks for the link. As always, we can take the dates with a grain of salt (a rock-sized grain), but nice to see that there are some kind of plans being made. Now that we are on the subject, any links for the Luna system in Russian, I'd like to know more about it. Read a while ago about the Su-33 and Su-27KUB in a magazine, but they only said that there were automatic alnding systems, one of which was optical (laser) based. The Luna on the Kuznetson, not the moon probes :P The aviaport link does have info that others lack. And since most of these texts are copied form one and other I thought it may contain some useful info. Heh, I should start discovering the Russian language part of the Internet.

Ьфниу ф вшкусе дштл ещ еру ЫА цуиышеу, so people can reactivate through them and not ED? Or is the ED site tied to the sf server somehow?

Pathetic, those hackers should hack other sites, and posting promotional info on flightsims on them, not crippling the already thin fanbase.

I must be too troll-like :P oh wait... nevermind just some brain function that I will supress. Be honored, some hacker/password stealer needed your lomac forum account, how cool is that? Maybe these boards will become popular, either that or having error 404 for the next month.

where can we get the Su-27UB (Su-30 in lomac) Ukrainian AF skin?

Sick idea, with a hurricane headwind, but still :P How about the Su-25T, or is it the same as with bridges, sinking through the surface, burning engines, KIA pilot, and then *kaboom*?

Mig-35 already has this sensor fusion, but I doubt the version, the Mig-35, which is export oriented, has better 'sensor fusion' than the F-35. The F-22 program needs hyping, because of it's gross cost overruns, LM needs to justify its existence to the militart, congress and the masses. Same thing is already happening with the F-35, which is already double of its projected unit cost, but at least it offers some really advanced technologies (besides stealth and LPI radar tech, like on the F-22). The F-35 has a bright future, the F-22 however is limited because it was not designed to be multi-role in the first place. But who knows how the F-22 will evolve, maybe one day there will be an F-15E successor based on the F-22.

Is the F-35 really inferior to the F-22 electronics-wise? Last time I heard something about the F-35 it was to have synthetic-aided vision ('transparent' cockpit), a helmet mounted display and one big primary flight display with all the stuff the pilot needs to know at that instance displayed. While the F-22 has not even a HMS. Which is unsurprising, as the F-22 is already more than 20 years old. The F-35 has a greater potential, even with its 60-70 mil. price tag (-A version). And it's strange to compare the two in the air-air combat role as the F-22 was obviousely designed for that and only that from day 1. The F-22 is great to fight your invading China/Russia/Venezuela/Iran/whoeveryouthinkisathreattoyou, but face it, the likelyhood of such scenario equals that of the devil being visible in the WTC attacks. The F-35 is great on the other hand to do some real world missions; blow up 'terrorists/freedom fighters', and facing such threat is far more likely than some invasion from China, or whomever your politicians make you fear.

It looks both cute, ugly and insect-like at the same time, but looks don't matter, nor do rocket pods (they look cool), all that matters are the aramid mats and ballistic glass. Maybe the gun, but I don't picture that thing doing CSAR with actual weapon employment, no transport chopper should, that's the job for the escorting choppers. But maybe times are changing and such multifunctionality actually has a real world use.

How about rooftops of moving trains? You know, even though it's a game, it should be realistic, and with all those high fuel prices it wouldn't hurt to travel in comfort, and for free on top of a commuter train.