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Well, putting a guy as an ATC is more complicated that it sounds as if you would like to done it right, the ATC dude should at least know every taxiway of every airfield which isn't really manageable when the server gets overcrowded (I'm not even considering having GND/TWR/APP ATC). You wanna shorten communication, but some communication in aeronautics are standard and cannot be shorten because there are rules. If you guys wanna get someone as an ATC, or use SRS for traffic information there aren't 36 ways to do it. Actually the rules on the 104th is pretty much like "it's okay to use both sides of the same runway as long as everyone remains on the left/right". Not to mention those taxiway takeoffs and stuff... 104th is pretty much okay for casual players looking for some SPAMRAAM genocides and frags. I thought Blue Flag was more oriented towards realism. Call it a break arrival, but once again, there are rules for this... You don't do a break arrival at 500 ft AGL. Am I too much hardcore ? Indeed. You're welcome. There may be some mistakes, I'm mostly familiar with civilian coms, not military ones. Panhead already pointed out something.

+1. Well indeed, I'm agree for this and that would be more realistic. Matching airfield frequency with SRS in order to state intentions, that would allow non SRS users to state their intention aswell by using the vanilla DCS radio panel. Then, channel 1 could be used for something different instead...

From what I've seen so far, ATC channel have plenty of room for traffic related coms now with SRS. Moreover the only ones who have to actually transmit something on the net are lonewolves and flight package leaders. Wingmen don't have to worry about this.

What makes you think so despite the fact some dudes are asking about radios protocoles ? Well I do this, and my friends are hardcore simmers aswell who are into this kind of stuff. :smilewink:

Here's what I'm doing so far in Blue Flag reguarding ATC. I'm illustrating this post using a basic flight roadmap and my own callsign, get your own. Once again that's how I do it, and some people might not want to push as far as I do, furthermore I'm pretty open concerning additional remarks. Keep in mind that we don't have useful informations such as NOTAM/ATIS/METAR/TAF on DCS yet. Also, I highly recommend you guys using callsigns in front of your names, as it helps the GCI to take care of you and your flight package, that's also a time saver on coms. First of all, you gotta use your charts to locate yourself and identify to important informations. Lets take a look at Sochi which is straight on the BLUFOR bulls. As soon as you are ready to taxi and according to the attached chart, go for : "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, 1 x M-2000C, Apron 1, taxiing Mike, Alpha, runway 06." Since we have only one ATC freq, you gotta point out the airfield you're at, in this case, Sochi. Give your callsign as in every radio transmission. In case you have the lead on a package made of multiple aircrafts you should call the quantity and the type of aircrafts going for taxi (only the flight lead does transmit on the ATC channel). Then, state your intentions and describe your path towards the active runway using the charts, in this case M(ike) and A(lpha). At this point, you should know what exit you're gonna use and be aware of potential altitude restrictions. In this case, you have to remain below 2600 AGL. Let's take the North exit as it's the best option to get in your CAP station pushing towards REDFOR side. "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, holding point Alpha, lining up and takeoff runway 06, North departure." Well you got it, you should be at the holding point Alpha runway 06 at the departure in this case, state your intentions once again and check for any incomming traffic on final BEFORE entering the runway. Once checks done, enter the runway and takeoff remaining runway heading then follow your departure track while watching your altitude. You gotta use your eyes to make your way towards the entry/exit as there are no DME informations on the ingame charts. In this example, it seems that you have to follow to river while remaining below 2600 AGL and then you should be cleared to your desired flight level. Then depending if you're flying alone or not. You can permanently tune one of your radios on 251.000 (ATC) and the other one on 264.000 (GCI). If you you're flying within a package, you can state as a flight lead : "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, leaving the area, pushing 264.000." I'm guessing you don't have to state Charcot 22 in the case you're in charge on multiple aircraft, but Charcot 2 for the whole package. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Then contact the GCI (in the case you aren't knowing the GCI callsign, go for) : "Anyface, Charcot 22." Doing so is a com request to the GCI. If he's online, he'll most likely reply "Charcot 22, Magic, go ahead." Then, you have to proceed to the check-in which is basically telling the GCI where you are at (who you are, where you are coming from /w number of ships, your position relative to bullseye, flight level and intentions), then you're free to ask him whatever you want (well, maybe not....), vectors to homeplate/alternate/specific group/tanker, picture, bogey dope... Once you're done, you can alert Magic that you're bingo/winchester/end of playtime and that you're flight package is RTB. That may help the GCI and make him divert other aircrafts towards the CAP zone you've established with your groups to guarantee the best safeness for your strikers on duty. "Magic, Charcot 22 flight level 300, pancake fuel/ammo, heading home Sochi." Get back to your charts and identify the most appropriate entry/exit you wanna use, check altitude restrictions. Let's take the West entry arrival for runway 06. Check your frequencies, make sure you have the ATC channel selected so you won't disrupt the GCI frequency by mistake. "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, 1 x M-2000C, EJ75 at 5000, inbound visual, West entry." I don't know about EJ75, but you get the idea, give your grid to let know other pilots where you're at aswell as your altitude. Then, state the entry you're using. Follow your track then once you are vertical on the initial (marked on the chart) : "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, on the initial, short final runway 06, full stop." Once wheels down and speed controlled, vacate the runway. "Sochi Traffic, Charcot 22, runway vacated via Echo." That way, people will be aware that the runway is free of usage, and your position on the taxiway. After that, you can state your intention to taxi the a specific parking, then once a blocks you can go for: "Sochi, Charcot 22, on blocks apron 1, leaving the frequency."

He isn't the flight lead, he's the left wingman being in a Vic formation.

Wow, it was such a mess tonight on BF. Taxiway takeoffs and so on, people not giving a damn on coms. However managed to get 3 gun kills and 1 S530D kill while merging 10 miles out Gudauta with the broken M2KC. Much fun but really something not worth to see on a live stream. :doh:

Good catch !

Yep, nothing else. Use this in conjunction with your Mk1 Eyeball.

OMG !! I litterally fell of my chair laughing ! :megalol:

Almighty SRS is so hyyyyyypeed ! :thumbup:

Fair enough, that leaves still plenty of room for targets management. No one does fox at 26nm onboard the M2KC so no worries by my side. :pilotfly:

Some more informations here I believe.

Hello folks, I'm curious about something I tried out with my leader in order to keep a good battle spread formation. I don't think it's a bug, it rather might be a good feature in a two ships package for other pilots instead, so here's the thing. Most of the time people are using TACAN either to find their homeplate or an alternate, or either to find a tanker by tuning themselves on the appropriate channel to get a range and a direction. Well, it seems that the TACAN allows you to give you a range between you and your leader if you have 63 channels spacing between each other, however it won't give you any direction but the range. Just to make sure, is that a normal behaviour ? Feel free to try it out : * Leader on 02Y - A/A * Wingman on 65Y - A/A I tested this on Blue Flag. I may not remember the exact tuning as it was done on the fly, but it should be accurate. I was quite surprised having this feature as it can give you a good hint whether you're too far, too slow, too fast of your leader in almost BVR offensive and defensive formations such as battle spreads for instance. :smartass:

Simple Radio Standalone for the win.

Open Beta hasn't been updated yet (next week). Changes were applied on the Open Alpha 2.0.3 only.

That's mah boy !

Yes you can.

29/07/2016 - Mod added to ED's User Files Library.

Very funny to watch, and really interesting, what a cool guy ! Thank you ! :thumbup:

Indeed, I was quite positively surprised today when I heard multiple flight packages stating their intentions on the ATC frequency. :thumbup:

This ! :thumbup:

I confirm aswell this issue, no jamming involved as far as I witnessed.

Fair enough. :smilewink:

That's the VTB export option. I guess it's usefull when you have other devices plugged in such as free physical MFDs. Correct me if I'm wrong people.