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It could be, but you have mig 25/31 with Vympel r-33 for this task. Su-27 was not design for this type of mission. Something seems strange, i am not totally convinced :)

?? strange, i have LA at 22 or 26 km depending T/ET We don't play the same game :)

The lock on range seems slightly different, i just do the test see my previous post, and tere is a bug in the HUD max launch range for r-27 ET

I just do some test. Mig29A vs M2K, 10000 ft, mach 0.7 R-27 T, HUD max launch 23 KM, LA (launch autorisation) 22 km R-27 ET HUD max launch 32 km, LA 26 km Not a big difference, seems correct. Good answer, at least logic, it can explain the usefulness of a two mode engine. Thx GGTharos

That doens't answer to my question, it doesn't explain why with the same 36T head, the lock on distance is differrent. Your speculations are not serious and that doesn't answer to my question. Do you think that a company will do a new missile with the hope of better IR seeker. and even with a better seeker the single mode engine of the R27 T is sufficient no need for a dual mode engine And please my question is precise and for CHIZ.

It's strange, it's seems that ED is specifically focus in quality of one third party "DEKA", what about the others...? And DEKA is by far, the best and the more professionnal third party who deliver the best quality of products, strange, isn't it ? They have a lot of work with the others RAZBAM, HEATBLUR, POLYSHOP with their Gazelle, ahaha...but ...nio words And no, unfortinately ED don't care about quality of products of third parties, they only care about theirs sells and a part of theirs customers.

@CHIZ, I have 2 questions for you about R-27T/ET These missiles are not radio correct during the first phase of their flight (i mean in DCS Game, not in RL) and the R-27T/ET Infrared homing head need to lock on the target by it's heat emission before launch. The max launch distance is then limited by the 36T infrared Homing head (15 to 50 km, depending of the heating source) - Why in the Game, the Lock on distance of T/ET is different ? it must be the same since the 36T is the limiting and determinig factor to lock on the target by it's heat emission. - If in Real life the missile flight is not radio corrected, why Vympel has done a R-27ET, with a two mode engine, since the single mode engine of R-27T was more than enough ?

Thx Paco2002

Ah ok thx hamza Khan

When we launch C802 AK by pair, in "Skim" mode, the first missile "Skim", and the second "pop up"

Ground radar lost lock when the JF-17 is bank. Same behaviour for GMT/SEA mode

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Ok will try that, thx AeriaGloria

Not sure we speak about the same thing. It's the RD93 sound (In-cockpit) that is not that good. There is a strange irritating looping sound (same as the DCS Mirage 2000). I just looked at the last video of Wags (DCS: Syria - Bekaa Valley), and the in-cockpit sound of the F-18's engine, seems very good. I fly from time to time the Mig29 and the In-cockpit sound of the RD33 is great too. It would great if we can have the same sound quality with the JF-17.

Internal cockpit engine sounds please, Thanks.

Thx for the test AeroGloria, now i will keep the probe ON :) Yes, but a good surprise :) I love flying the "fierce dragon", the FMs are really great.

Sure, might be "placebo effect" because the AAR is ...big :)

yes AAR probe adds some drag, but even without AAR, JF-17 is IMO more draggy. It would be good if DEKA made the AAR off by default because yesterday i have done some test on servers like "JUST DOGFIGHT" and the JF-17 start in the air with the probe :(, not the best config for dogfighting. All servers i test the AAR is always on. My suggestion is to make it off by default, and if we need it for a specific mission, we install it.

Just come back to DCS, and the JF-17 seems a lot more draggy or is it just me. Dogfighting seems harder than before.

There is no reliable info anywhere in the world, all is politic... There is no good background for any report about efficiency of the missiles :). If people understand this, it's all good. We just have to trust our intuition, which is often the best guide.:)

Nobody ? I don't think so. weapon's overall Pk is not an indicator, because it's biased, you know. Like i said previously overall pk is biased But correct performance is need for all missiles, with coherent ECM, ECCM environnement (essential). They just try to hide the lost of F-16, i's understandable, that's not good for F-16 sells. And most importantly, a F-16 shot down by a mig-21 :).

Interesting article who give a better idea about true capacity of amraam (specifically c-5). The Amraam C-5 appear to be effective only against old fighters (with poor EW and ECM) at launch distance < 20 mn, but ineffective against modern fighters, and at launch distance > 20 mn. Not so good. https://idrw.org/amraam-kill-map-in-syria-shows-how-paf-f-16s-missed-su-30mki-by-miles/ R-73 is a good missile :) https://theprint.in/defence/8-pieces-of-clinching-evidence-that-show-how-iafs-abhinandan-shot-down-a-pakistani-f-16/278752/

Yes, i know Will be fine? for who? For you and ED ? But what do you know about sd-10 ? nothing.. Perhaps it would be better to let people who know better to do their own missile with new FM, because it seems it will be ED work.

... and some people just love the AMRAAM and want it to be super missile Oh, i know the ED agenda (and yours), killing the sd-10.

Hello Khopa, DCS liberation seems to be great and i started to test it. My first question is : How to create/modify Factions or to create it's own faction ? Thx