sylkhan

Strange, mine are ok

Unable to create a SPI in Map mode with T5 TDC press

Interesting, how did you call an AH-64D crashing into the water ? The "plouf" Your stupidity has no limit...

I vote for ASELPOD, it would expand AG/AA capacities of the "Fierce Dragon" and +1 for BRM’s-90’s on inner pylons

Lol, i don't compare su-25 and mig-29 Obviously I compare the FM in relation with the real aircraft. The Dcs Su-25 Fm is coherent with the real Su-25 The DCS Su-27 Fm is coherent with the real su-27 The DCS mig-29 Fm is not coherant with the real Mig-29 Is it more clear for you ?

Seems to be ED bug, since they are working on a new video data link rendering for long distance, for the Slam -ER. "Unlike the GBU-24, the SLAM-ER has much greater range and the ability to alter terminal targeting. We are also developing the enhanced data link video transmission for these greater distances which we plan to deliver early next year. " https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/254464-official-news/page/3/ We have to wait.

You are right, i did some new tests and it works, Thx paco2002

All in Mig FM is totally off, flying this one is just frustration, it's like you said " feels like two drunk men that are fighting over a vodka bottle" :), su-25 FM is great. It's sad that one of the best Fighter of it's time in RL, is just a nightmare to fly in this game

Same, not working

Are you serious ? No, something like in DIR/COO mode the AKG is autonomous and act like the AK, his imaging infrared seeker capure the target, and in Man mode, the pilot control the missile to select the target. It has. You don't have understood, that since the start of the thread the question is : "Is the AKG autonomous in DIR/COO mode ?" Seriously.... That's not important, we will use it, as Deka do it. If it is MITL in all mode, no problem for me, but in this case I don't see the point of "Man mode", DIR/COO mode are sufficient.

The AKG has an Imaging infrared seker, that means it can be used like AK and go directly to the target. And it has datalink + TV seeker to add MITL capacity. It can use one or the other. From 2010 ZHUHAI, CHINA The China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp. (Casic) has unveiled a new air-launched, land-attack cruise missile. The weapon, first shown here at Airshow China, is the latest member of the C-802 missile family. The CM-802AKG, as the new weapon is designated, also has longer range than the air-launched version of the anti-ship C-802A, a company official says. The CM-802AKG range exceeds 200 km, whereas the C-802A has a range of around 180 km. The missile weighs less than 700 kg and is equipped with a multipurpose warhead of slightly below 300 kg mass. One of the main design features of the weapon was achieving the range target at low weight, the Casic engineer notes. The CM-802AKG uses either an infrared seeker or TV-seeker for terminal guidance. It uses a strap-down inertial navigation system, but GPS-guidance kit could be installed. The missile is now in production in China, the Casic official says, and the company now is pursuing export customers.

FYI there is no offical manual, just a quick guide And in this quick guide, it is nowhere stipulate that MITL is required in DIR/COO mode. and i already mentioned it : From the DEKA quick guide C-802AKG is different, at specific mod, you can control the weapon from launch to hit. C-802AKG has three launch modes : DIR, COO and MAN. In DIR mode, missile fly to SPI directly. In COO mode missile will attack PPpoint. For MAN mode, missile will fly through RPpoints. In DIR and COO mode,seeker will power on 20km before the designated target point. In MAN mode, seeker will power on about 2 km before the last waypoint and enter MITL mode. It is said in this guide that in DIR/COO mode the missile go directly to the target and no mention of MITL Not clear( enough for you ? (where) page please ? Is it for dir/coo modes ? Edit : OK I see it, that just confirm that AKG has MITL capacity and need DL pod to manually controlled the missile, nothing new, it's like "Man mode" works, but it is not directly relate to DIR/COO mode. If you don't have better evidence that MITL is mandatoty in DIR/COO modes, please stop wasting my time.

Ah, then your answer was irrelevant, since my sentence was about "direct mode" not "Man mode", and about (SPI)WPT not RP points. "2.7.3 – CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(DIR, Direct) - 9.Select Final Attack Mode(POPUP or SKIM). We will choose POPUP. 2.7.4 –CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(COO, Coordinates) - 9.Select Final Attack Mode(POPUP or SKIM). We will choose POPUP. 2.7.5 –CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(MANUAL + MAN-IN-THE-LOOP) - 9.Final Attack is irrelevant for this mode since Man-In-The-Loop requires manual control." MITL required only in "Man mode" like i state already many times, not in Direct or coordinate mode Yes and what ?? nothing new here. From my previous post "I hope you understand that the problem is not "Man mode", we all know that DL pod + MITL is required in this mode." As many times as you want, since it isn't clearly state in the manual. Only DEKA can give the answer to this. Don't need others to do my own conclusion.

Yes and what ? I hope you understand that the problem is not "Man mode", we all know that DL pod+MITL is required in this mode. The question is : "is MITL" mandatoty for "Direct mode and "Coordinate mode", The manual clearly say "NO", I give you the manual parts, you need to read them carefully, and if it's not clear for you, i can do nothing more. The remaining question is : "Since MITL is not mandatory for Dir & Coo mode, do we need the DL pod for these modes?"

and ?? The 802AK power its seeker(radar) 25 km before SPI, I don't see the point with DL pod doesn't work There is NO "route mode", you mean "Direct mode" and I don't think you can change the SPI(WPT) while the missile is in flight, it is determine before launch. After some research, my guess is : Since the AKG is dual seeker then, in (Dir, Coo) it act like the AK and activated it's IR seeker for terminal guidance (no need of the DL pod, same as AK), in "Man mode" it activate the TV seeker for MITL(DL pod is need for guidance). Only Deka, can give us the correct answer

Hmmm well, I re-read the Chuck’s guide. 2.7.3 – CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(DIR, Direct) - 9.Select Final Attack Mode(POPUP or SKIM). We will choose POPUP. 2.7.4 –CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(COO, Coordinates) - 9.Select Final Attack Mode(POPUP or SKIM). We will choose POPUP. 2.7.5 –CM-802AKG TV-GUIDED MISSILE(MANUAL + MAN-IN-THE-LOOP) - 9.Final Attack is irrelevant for this mode since Man-In-The-Loop requires manual control. What do you understand ? From the DEKA quick guide C-802AKG is different, at specific mod, you can control the weapon from launch to hit. C-802AKG has three launch modes : DIR, COO and MAN. In DIR mode, missile fly to SPI directly. In COO mode missile will attack PPpoint. For MAN mode, missile will fly through RPpoints. In DIR and COO mode,seeker will power on 20km before the designated target point. In MAN mode, seeker will power on about 2 km before the last waypoint and enter MITL mode. What do you understand ? Like i already said the Chuck's guide and Deka guide refer to MITL only for MAN mode, and only MITL require DL pod. It makes sens since the CM-802AKG has inertial guidance with GPS inputs, and Infrared Homing seeker + TV seeker with datalink. If in DCS it works only in MITL mode for some reasons, it's sad, but it's a game after all Same for the 802AK, in real life it can attack maritime and ground fixed targets but in the game, it seems to be able to attack only sea targets. Game and real life, different story , or perhaps they are WIP.

You are right, it works, this way, but the chuck manual is confusing because it refers to MITL only for the Man mode or my english is too crap. I have learned something today :)

Ok, just and example, In direct mode you can use tpod to select the target to create SPI and then launched the 802. In your theory, that means that after launching the 802, it's in MITL mode and we need to swith to DL to control the missile ? That's not logic, the missile need to go directly to the SPI (target)

"Man mode" speaks for itsel, "manual + man in the loop" suggest a human participation to guide the missile.to the target " Direct mode" or "Coordinates mode" the missile go to target by itself

With DL pod that works, if you take control of the missile, but in dir/coo mode the 802 need to go directly to the target without control. It is the difference between dir/coo and MITL mode, where you control the missile. At least it is what i understand from the manual.

No, only in "MITL" mode, but even with the DL pod that does'nt work, will do some more test

Any news about this bug,it makes the 802AKG unusable in "MITL" mode at long distance

No, not need in Direct or coordinate mode, only in "MITL" mode to have video and control over the 802AKG

In "Direct mode" i tried tpod, AG radar, waypoint as spi and no luck, Coordinate mode don't work too, or am i doing something wrong :)