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^^ This

Thanks, for the quick start manual. When will we be able to download it ? understandable, the boring part :D, and so many fonctions :)

I think ED will do it in the next week newsletter

great news !

Beautifull, thanks

Lol, this pilot thinks very wrong, there are a lot of better dogfighting aircrafts out there

Ah, it's for that reason they are doing (FC4) MAC And who is doing (FC4) ? You ?

No, no, your sentences don't conflict one another, i make the second part of your sentence in bold because that justify what i have said previouly about people who prefer the most advanced avionic, and because you say "J-7G is actually designed roughly in the same era as the J-8F", but in fact it seems that there is a big difference in the capacity and the avionics level of the 2 aircraft. and sorry for my poor english, but i am proud of that because i am french :smartass:

No, you are wrong one more time, Mirage IIIE 1954, F-104 1952, same period, same level of avionic, no one is more advanced than the other Lol, I quote you "J-8F is the best and the final variant of the J-8II series, and is regarded as the first true ‘multirole’ fighter" do i need to add something :)

I stand correct, all the planes in this pole are from the same period (more or less), then your argument is invalidate :) I vote mirage IIIE :)

What were the others contenders ? :)

These polls are funny because it's easy to know what aircraft will win. It will be the most advanced aircraft,.... simple as that. If you do a poll with mig29a mig29s mig35, the winner will be ....Mig35. Why ? because the majority of people prefer a plane who can do a lot things (multi role if possible), with the most modern avionic. The most advanced the aircraft is, the better are the sells. The good thing is that DEKA has devellop all the tools and technology to do advanced aircraft more quickly. So, if i was DEKA, i would go for the most advanced aircraft as possible to have the best rentability of all the hard work they have already done. my two cents.

No they left the project from the start in 1987 and come back in 1998/1999 after FC1 early stage

Programme evolution 1987 China’s Chengdu Aircraft Corporation was interested in developing a lightweight fighter to replace its J-7 (Mig-21) aircraft. 1987 Pakistan’s desire for greater self-sufficiency in combat aircraft (especially in regards to a number of imposed sanctions by the USA and its allies). The PAF also needed to replace its ageing combat aircraft. The pressure on Pakistan was considerable since its neighbours were procuring large range of modern combat aircraft. PAF started to find ways of developing its own modern aircraft. 1987 Initial design from 1987 in collaboration with Pakistan, China and US Grumman Aircraft manufacturing was to develop a better improved version of the Chengdu J-7 (MIG-21) combat aircraft – project Sabre II. PAF in January 1987 had commissioned US based Grumman Aerospace to conduct studies and the feasibility of the Sabre II design concept with the Chinese Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) 1987+ Project Sabre II major modification was a redesigned fuselage with side-mounted engine air intakes to allow a larger radar to be placed in the nose from the modified J-7 aircraft. Due to the escalating costs and political issues with the USA – Pakistan had withdrawn from this project. 1990 The Grumman corporation then continued the project with Chengdu - China National Aero Technology Import and Export Corporation (CATIC) and the Super-7 was born. This had resulted in further changes into the aircraft design - further modifications to the fuselage and wing had led the design to look closer to the final FC-1 design However, this partnership was short-lived and Grumman withdrew from the project due to the Chinese Tiananmen protests. ---------- 1998-1999 Pakistan and China had agreed to develop and manufacture this aircraft on a 50/50 basis - Pakistan became the first major co-producer of this fighter and its participation provided much needed financial support for the project (especially once the PLA indicated that it will not acquire the FC-1 at this stage). 1998-2007 China and Pakistan had then invited the Russian Mikoyan manufacturers to join the programme. Engineers from the Mikoyan were provided and this helped in further design refinements and helped with the integration of a new engine, the RD-93 for the JF-17/FC-1 aircraft (a variant of the Klimov RD-33 aircraft used in Russian Mig-29 Fulcrum combat aircrafts). 1998-2007 Chengdu also incorporated some of the lessons it had obtained from its development of the J-10 Vigorous Dragon 4 th generation combat aircraft. It is said that the the Chief Designer of Chendu’s J-20 5 th generation combat aircraft, Dr Yang Wei was involved in the FC-1/JF-17 programme. [19] 2007 - 2018 The first combat aircraft were delivered to the PAF in March 2007 and with co-production taking place. It is stated by numerous sources that the PAF plans to induct between 250-300 JF-17 Thunder multi-role combat aircraft (including a number of evolving blocks and 2 dual-seater combat aircraft). By February 2018, Pakistan had 6 active JF-17 Squadrons comprising over 100+ combat aircraft produced by PAC/CAC manufacturing facilities. Two-seater JF17B was flown in 2017 and 3 initial aircraft to be manufactured. 2 JF-17B for the PAF and 1 to stay in China for further test evaluations. 2017-18 Production of export aircraft to Myanmar (Burma) and Nigeria had begun. JF-17 Block 3 work has started with production to commence in 2019/20, Source : Book "JF-17 Thunder: The Making of a Modern Cost- effective Multi-role Combat Aircraft" by SAGHIR IQBAL

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02/03/2018

:)

Mig29K for the futur "Admiral Kuznetsov" carrier

It's one on the main feature of the JF-17/ZDK-03/datalink force multiplier.

Will it possible to the JF-17, like in real life, to launch SD-10 silently, radar off, with Awacs mid-course missile guidance ?

Like the real thing is not possible, a public simulator can only try to be as close as possible to the real thing but often, it as far from reality due to limitations and public datas. Then no, there is no simulator like the real thing :) Is it so hard to understand, that when you are in combat action, you have a lot things to do/think and when you communicate with your buddies, to be efficient, you don't always have time for divisions/multiplications Read this : @razo+r, it seems that PAF pilots do not share your thougts Thanks

^^ THIS Since the jf-17 will be mostly use in the red side, that will ease communication with su/mig, and we are used to use Meter :) If it's only imperial, it will be a big disappointrement for us. I am sure the devs understand this.

Agreed, great chinese plane, thanks Deka :thumbup:

ICAO publication proclaims the Metric System as the standard (but concedes that the current system will be with us for a while). https://aerosavvy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/an05_cons.pdf And the international unit system (SI) is Metric. Is that clear enough...

So true :)