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Dunno why you quoted that post, but I guess you meant my question about road bases and Viggen ? Planes can be refueled/rearmed and repaired by FARPs technically, since they hold all the supplies. You just have to be close enough. So if some logistics units got moved closer to some roads at some farps that would be enough already. Spawning probably is not an option until we get placable aitstrips. But getting rearms/refuels from some FARPs would be very cool already. Or just FARPs with no helos spawning there, so its just a forward refueling/rearming point for planes and helos.

agreed.

ehehehhe *controlled flight into terrain*

A meme is simply not what you just said. From le wikipedia: "A meme (/ˈmiːm/ meem)[1] is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture".[2] A meme acts as a unit for carrying cultural ideas, symbols, or practices that can be transmitted from one mind to another through writing, speech, gestures, rituals, or other imitable phenomena with a mimicked theme. Supporters of the concept regard memes as cultural analogues to genes in that they self-replicate, mutate, and respond to selective pressures.[3]" I really ddint intend to make fun of you. Ridiculing your opponent is one tactic, but honestly I hate that and I try not to do it. I pointed my finger at you when frostie said everyone knows what I showed. Because literally you were the reason thats nothing bad. There is for sure more people who didnt know that things play out the way they do, so I guess it was good there was a reason. I did also think IRST was at least a bit better then it is. Its beyond me how a IRST installation is not much better then a freaggin fox2 seeker. I would not have expected any contacts beyond 5-10 miles but the 3-5 miles it is is something I didnt expect either. Honestly as long as there is no high end SAMs at airfields I am so fine with all the markers we have right now. Blueflag should stay open to everyone imho. That doesnt say that I would not shout at people not having read SOP, but I would like to keep it as it is.Team/squad based blueflag would be a place for full hardcore imho. Blue flag is nothing hardcore imho. Its a teamplay server, nothing in terms of hardcore realism. Hardcore realism imho is a mission, a briefing 1 attempt, done. Not dynamic moving frontline with static targets and helos that deploy sa6s. And I love blueflag for what it is.

Not doing intentionally so. You said "if it's in the air, it will be detected on radar. Speed of the helicopter doesn't matter.". That is obviously wrong. Thats everything I wanted out of the way You are the first person I meet who said memez are rude. [And I didnt even go full ubermemelord, not even slightest amount of memez was used.] I mean two more weeks is a meme. Is that rude ?

Nothing to see here, move along !

If le advisary isnt completely retarded yes you are completely right. I just want to remind everyone of the mirage life in DCS. ;D Thing is the Mirage also has good instant and bleeds speed pretty bad. But thanks to deltas having quite stable airflow even at high AOA you do not loose as much turn performance at lower speed in comparison to an f15 for example, since you can trade huge induced drag for the lift but you can keep doing that in full burner, if the enemy does go with you there. The more limiting factor here will probably be the RM8a AOA acceptance. But overall, yes, Viggen is a strike plane, aim9 is for self defense. But as we see with a10c vs high end 4th gen, pilot skill is everything... ;D

Well I did it mostly for Bodyorgan since he pretty obviously didnt know it. I saw your post earlier but bodyorgan didnt believe that either it seems :D. I get what you are saying, and I get that makes sense for most redfor airfields. I never said or meant to say at least, that its impossible for bluefor planes to spot helos. I just was very much confused and motivated to get that "speed doesnt matter" out of the way. Problem on bluefor often is, that GCI spots helos very late since Airfields like Sochi, Gudata, tblisi have so much terrain so close that a helo can pretty much hide just by terrain very easily until he gets into firing position. So our GCI often gets eyes on helos never or pretty late, when they are already not traveling anymore so its kinda troublesome to find them on radar. In that situation I would expect the IRST to be a better option then then seeker and Radar. Thats all I meant. Nothing else ! :) But as said, I do not want to complain at all. I just wanted to illustrate that the statement that the velocity didnt matter, was wrong. :)

Did check with le flanker radar and IRST against uh1 and sa342. Flanker radar performed pretty much exactly as the Mirage Radar. IRST was a little bit better then magic2 seeker which honestly surprised me, would have thought a stationary system would have been better then one you throw away each time you fire a missile.

So here, for the memez. A DCS propaganda radar Release 1440p should be up soon, then you can read the labels as well. Magic picked up the ka50 pretty much ar 3.2nm. m2k uses DCS standard Radar model, su27 and F15 might have longer detection range against the 80kph one but it will work the same way conceptually. Unless fancy magic happend. But I guess I did prove what I wanted to prove. :) Hope it halps.

Yep can confirm a10a is also broken in that regard. Yep FC3 planes pretty much have instant gear failure. Meanwhile other planes react different depending on speed and crater parameters.

Video encoding, upload thereafter hope it should be up within the next hour. And unless I am in a different universe my statements pretty much hold up.

What speed was that mi8 moving at ? If it was above 80, yee ofc. If anything has a greater velocity then the one needed for the doppler shift relative to the scanning plane to be bigger then the filter threshhold, yes, glorious full detection range pretty much. As said I have detected mi8 at full steam from 30nm in glorious lookdown from 45 000ft. Yep, REDFOR definitely should get more ! :)

The only thing the radar cares about is the doppler shift. And the doppler shift is never going to be bigger then the threshhold if your GS is below the speed which would induce a doppler shift, which surpasses the threshhold for doppler filtering. So the statements are equal. Since the doppler filtering in DCS eats everything below 80kph pretty much. Well if you fly slower then 80kph, good luck, no radar contact in look down. [still unlimited in look up though. I try to use that but usually flying lower then helicopter through valleys and stuff is kinda bad/unsafe ;D.] Do I really have to make a video to illustrate that ? It seems I have to. Standby for getting rekt by numbers and physixxxx. Or me singing a nice song for ED that they fixed their radar model and Helos are detected at any speed and me having writen a lot of outdated rubbish. One of them both. ;DD

ehehe ;D only half way true

Yeah. Thats what I am saying all the time. If a helicopter is in the notch he wont be on radar as a fighter would be in DCS. IRST doesnt suffer from this. Thats all I said. :D But people said nonono IRST worse then Radar at spotting helos in DCS. :D AFAIK you wont be able to spot a helo moving at full steam on IRST at the ranges radar can. I spoted MI8s in transit from like 20-30 miles from 45 000ft. The only thing I am saying here IRST doesnt suffer from notch in look down, which is an huge advantage if you search better then average helo pilots. Because better then average helo pilots know that and use that. Again, ask reaper, he did it all the time. I dont get you people. Just waiting for viggen and hopping at 15km range scale one can spot helos. RB05 helo hunting will be surpreme. I am really tempted to create some redfor memez right now. :D

Ka50. Just have one flying in a straight line over the water, spawn fighter 90 degrees angle off and fly higher then the helo.

yep 100% sure. Tested it multiple times with different bomb craters. All the planes somehow react to the craters F15 and su27 do not. I bug reported it more then a month ago to ED. For example someone called in a b1b and it carpet bombed maykop after we captured it two huge craters on the runway. F15 which was with me in the air during the bombing, lands, goes over craters, 0 problem. Micro tries to land at the edge of the crater because he knows that mirage gear will break, gear still broke. x).

Mirage uses standard ED radar model. RVE training more then 2 months ago, did terrain mask and go sub 80 for the last few KM. 4 f15s tried to find me on radar. No success. And Map contacts were on so they did know where to search. It was testing/training combo thingy. Either your testing was flawed or something has really changed. Reaper said one of the most important things is having the patience to get there safely and that most people in blueflag do not have the patience. :D

Look down range for detection against a KA50 from a mirage, ka50 slower then 80kph relative, roughly 3km. Look up pretty much full detection range. Against EWR with GCI similar results in terms of detection range if slower then notch speed. Which doesnt make all to much sense but well, thats how it is. Testing was done less then 4 weeks ago. When reaper was playing it was the same. Hovering helicopter practically not spotable if in look down. Thing is, it should be no problem at all detecting a helo with rotating blades thanks to doppler shift. But Again DCS radar model only incorporates object relative speed for some nonsense reason. Pretty flawed.

F15 and Su27 takes 0 Damage when going over runway craters. Literally 0, no bump, nothing. I will do testing in a controlled enviroment at some point hopefully, I hope that can bring some light in here. Since I am really barely staying up and I am getting a feeling that there is something fishy happening if people have higher RTT then the rest. Dunno. Numbers will tell. One does not have enough data to effectively compile into a neutral opinion. Usually at least.

Okay I play DCS since february, since then it does matter at least. Speed VERY much influences if something is on radar or not. Which is wrong, it should not be like that, as long as rotors are spinning. But hey its DCS and its ED and su27s and f15 still go over cratered runway as if it was as smooth as, I dunno, mirror for a telescope.

Hovering ones ? Or below 80kph in general ?

Me just wants some FARPs doubleworking as road bases when the Viggen comes. :pilotfly: