Mars Exulte

I'm not saying there's not an issue there, there clearly is, and it's why I haven't updated But I don't expect DCS to perform like completely different beasts

VR didn't exist when DCS was made. At all. It was not a design consideration. It is NOW, but they can't gut all their simulation routines so people can squeeze out a few more fps in VR. It's designed for high fidelity simulation of aircraft and their systems, the ''other sims'' literally are not. To varying extents, they are doing somewhat less to a lot less on simulation side of things, and do not simulate the internal systems or avionics at any level beyond rudimentary. They're casual sims by design, to be accessible. Individual 3rd party modules may be more detailed, but on average, they are ''doing'' a lot less, which gives them a lot more overhead for graphics and VR. These are just facts. Also, one of those ''other sims'' is run by a multi-billion dollar global megacorp with nearly limitless resources to devote toward building the entire thing from scratch. DCS is not, and change is by necessity slower because of lesser resources and NOT being able to rebuild it all from scratch.

You guys keep comparing sims via relative eyecandy, ignoring the part where those sims are not simulating the same level or types of things that DCS is. The engine is dated, and Vulkan and MT will yield some improvements, but no matter how ''Optimus''ed they make it it will almost definitely always trail behind them in FPS because, shockingly, doing more requires more horsepower, which eats into FPS. If DCS disabled all the things that make it DCS and just focused on pretty graphics, optimised or not, it would yield comparable performance. That's kinda the point, you can't have ALL THAT, AND pretty graphics, AND maximal FPS. You have to pick two.

Yep, this. I wouldn't ignore that, it's just like the breakers in your house. If it's doing that, it means something is seriously wrong.

You can absolutely game on a laptop, but it is essential you keep thermals in mind, and a dedicated cooler is damn near required. Yeah, a good laptop can be disassembled like this. Avoid the ones where everything is soldered. Also avoid the really skinny ones, they overheat. You want a portable PC not a ''notebook''. And as this person indicates, remember you still need to perform routine maintenance for dust, paste, etc. Sounds like Dell used a particularly crap paste there. Tbh, I have a real low opinion of them since I saw one of their Alienware flagship models up close once. What an overpriced piece of crap with wonky plastic bits all over it lol

Hmmm. I'm not a doctor, but that sucking chest wound looks serious. I fried a GPU in a laptop once due to poor airflow. It was at that time I learned A. Do not game on a blanket B. Laptop GPUs are 2x the price of desktop

Yeah, I see what you mean. But they're not doing a whole new release with new product branding (which is all that means). When I first discovered DCS it was 1.2, they went to 1.5 with a new engine. 2.0 (up through our current 2.8) was a whole new engine. 3.0+ will be Vulkan with multithreading. Basically each of these major releases IS exactly what you're describing, a whole new engine, but your previous purchases are still good and preexisting assets are ported over (which is also what you mentioned wanting). By strict ''engine releases'' technically we are on the third major engine/api release now with the fourth inbound since the ''DCS World'' brand was launched. They just don't append a number to the title, that's all, it's in the version number.

All of which we already have. If you don't like FBW aircraft, don't fly them, that's the ''rails'' you think you're experiencing. Me, too. It definitely makes it hard to miss when your seat jumps and shakes, but even without that, especially on the deck, aircraft bump and jostle as you move through turbulence. All be aside, he clearly hasn't been paying attention (I noted what appeared to be some form of thermals years ago when passing underneath clouds in the Yak-52 and noting the variometer jumping, although it may not be present now in 2.7-8) In order to miss some of this stuff he has to A. Not pay any attention and B. Be sufficiently ignorant to not recognise it when seeing/experiencing it. Can't help somebody like that, especially with this silly attitude he has, he's not going to be exactly ''open'' to correction. Kinda like that ''aerospace engineer'' who had never heard of differential braking a while back and declared ''Nobody would EVER design something like this''.

Not directly, but with enough DiY anything's possible. Though I wouldn't bother trying to out a premium grip on a entry level base. The gimbal system wouldn't work well with a heavy metal grip like TM anyway. You'd need to rebuild the whole thing. If you want grip swapping, get Virpil, their's are just pull old and add new. VKB also can swap grips, but they require a BIOS update with it.

An 8700 isn't going to feed a 3090 properly. All there is to it. We're not talking a small upgrade, this is a fairly old CPU, choked by VERY insufficient RAM quantity, paired with an ultra high end GPU. OP's system is low end of mid range with a top tier GPU. That combination will have issues, simple as that. It's actually very similar to the system I just upgraded from... but with less RAM, so I have a pretty good idea how it performs.

I have a 3090 also, and HP Reverb G2, and get solid 45fps with motion reprojection or 60-75ish without. This CPU is choking you down As is this. You need at least 32GB, 64 if possible. You've got a really high end modern GPU with a good but dated processor and verrrry little RAMband it is choking badly. That's your problem in a nutshell. Neither relevant for FPS. I'd recommend increasing to 32GB or 64GB of RAM, a more modern processor, preferably a 5800x3d (if budget is no issue) or similar gaming CPU of recent timeframe. For settings I recommend leaving MSAA off, shadows to low and flat, clouds to standard. I run resolution if I remember in the 3000x3000 range give or take and use OpenXR. I do not play on the half baked, poorly designed multiplayer servers that are so popular around here, which will choke you down considerably.

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More like 4.0 (which I'm sure will happen eventually if the company remains solvent). We're on 2(.8) now, Vulkan/MT will be 3+.

I think this is just a rando venting and not really to be taken seriously. @OP Some of the stuff you mentioned is a somewhat reasonable take, a lot of it is a bit ridiculous though, too, especially ''I know I'm right'' Yeah... if you have to pat yourself on the back, it's not as much a confirmation as you think. And bye. These 'Dear John' letters when somebody leaves a video game are so much fun @@ Nobody cares, man. Their CS reps aren't going to chase you down the hall screaming ''NO, GOZR, COME BACK, WE MIIIIIIISSSSSS YOUUUU UWU''

I just checked and saw they have a site now and saw their offering is substantially different from years ago. Sameish price but looks like a better and sturdier overall design. Nice!

More it's a low production volume, extremely niche for enthusiasts thing. Component wise, the electronics are just simple 3-axis gamecontroller guts, with either cheaper potentiometers or better magnetic sensors. The actual pedals themselves, how they're constructed, what options you have for adjusting tension, and overall quality are what you're paying for (and again, the very low production volume). The highest end is Slaw's ViperRX, made to order from machined aluminum, with adjustable pitch on the pedals, customisable pedal shape, attachments to mount dampers, and top quality. They can be made to closely replicate the feel of real pedals. They also cost $700 and have a moderate waiting list. The low end is Saitek at $150-300. They are plastic with cheapest guts and components, and minimal adjustments for tension (including the overpriced and much touted combat pedals, they are LITERALLY the exact same internals with fancy pedals and a price premium). I would avoid the plastic Saitek and CH pedals entirely. They're crap. Thrustmaster may be more reliable on the low end of stuff, although nominally similar. Crosswinds, VKB, and TPR, and Virpil's offering make up most of the mid range and are all pretty good quality with varying degrees of customability with Virpil and TPR being toward the upper range and Crosswinds and VKB covering the lower end. They range from $250-500 if I remember.

I concur. Doesn't sound like general overheat. You've probably got some sort of hardware failure happening, IMO. I'd start trying to isolate hardware items to determine what specifically is messing up either with targeted stress tests, hardware swaps, etc.

Texture update helps a lot, as do Taz's trees (shoutout to Barthek and Taz, you guys are chef's kiss) but it needs new assets, too. The buildings are extremely dated (unsure if there's a mod for that), and in general the environment needs a pass overall.

No. I've got all maps but spend 99% of time on caucasus Same here. Have everything. Almost entirely on Caucasus. It is by far the more interesting map, despite the dated graphics and ''ugly stepson'' treatment.

Do you want WiFi or not? Motherboards are not that complicated. They either support your desired components (RAM CPU etc) or not, they have WiFi or not, and that's pretty much it. Picking for aesthetics is perfectly valid. As long as you're not buying a garbage $30 motherboard or something, it doesn't matter.

Yeah, of course. Exerting prolonged force is one thing and just doing it a moment another. My point was merely that it shouldn't be like the stick is in mud, most people can manage forty pounds without too much trouble, so if you're struggling to move your stick around you've probably gone overboard.

Same reason you'd buy a stick extension. Do you need it? No, you can get by without it, but it gives much finer control. Also, greater multi-tasking capacity, there is no way to claim you can manipulate twist, pitch/roll, and manipulate controls all simultaneously on one hand without losing efficiency. There's a reason literally EVERY aircraft of EVERY type for 110 years of flight did it this way. Eh, with minimal tweaking they can be used as throttle and brakes, or a variety of other items if desired. Bigger issue is the relatively large footprint they require. You need a wide open area for them. It is borderline essential for helos. Coordinated flight is largely optional, but you definitely use rudder for guns fights, and pedals provide much greater precision. Very few people will dump $5-800 on ultra high end sticks and then use a twist axis. They can be retrofitted, but the overwhelming majority of that crowd is going to be enthusiasts with some sort of pit. And a twist axis is very poorly suited to extended sticks. Pedals DO take some getting used to, it's a whole new set of motor skills, but tbh once you get used to it, it's kinda like TrackIR or something where you don't know how you got by without it.

I recently noticed this, too. I'm glad to see it's actually new and I'm not just suddenly stupid(er). Also, dislike. Home should take us to the main forum page, not the activity board. Nobody cares about that.

Like I said, in 2d it's unlikely to matter one way or the other. 5800x3d helps with draw calls in VR. If you're not using VR and don't intend to, then it hardly matters what CPU you have unless it's really out of date.

5800x3D's appeal is in a VR scenario. If you're not doing that, you don't need it. If you're playing 2d, honestly, IMO there's little point in upgrading at all. My wife's laptop with a 2060M will run the game at Max settings albeit it's a 1080p screen. A desktop 3070 should be handling 1440p just fine.