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A poster in a different thread said they have no issues when using old Nvidia drivers (I'm now using 442.19). I have an approximate 360% improvement in performance. There's still a bit of an FPS drop with the radar on but it's not too bad.

You win this thread Brown Floyd, at least for me that's made a huge difference (360% improvement in performance). Fingers crossed it doesn't wreck my performance of other games I play but the MiG 21 is flyable again. Cheers

I run MSAA on 4x for stable and open beta, get very good FPS on stable with some drops and alright-ish FPS on beta with massive gamebreaking drops. System: i5 6600K CPU 3.5Ghz 32GB RAM Geforce RTX 2060 Super 500GB SSD

Recently changed from release to open beta. Open beta appears to have a bug where sound effects associated with high G occur when there is no G-loading. I had repeated sound effects of losing hearing and ringing ears when flying straight and level. It's very odd.

I also saw that imacken. I don't think I had that on release version but it jumped out at me straight away when I changed to beta a couple of days ago.

I'm also having large FPS drops since I changed to open beta. With exact same system settings between release and beta I am experiencing approximately 30% reduction in performance (sometimes higher) when doing the same missions on open beta. I am using TrackIR. I've tried deleting fxo and metashaders but it doesn't appear to have made a difference. Quick question though, whats the difference between metashaders and metashader2 folders? Can anybody recommend anything else I can try before I go back to playing on release version?

I'm glad this is such a common issue. I just changed from release to open beta because the MP is pretty much non-existent on release version. With the exact same systems settings, open beta is just unplayable in terms of performance. I'm getting a number of other minor bugs which do affect my enjoyment somewhat but that's to be expected with open beta. The difference in performance between release and open beta is huge. Stupidly, I uninstalled stable version before testing open beta...and now I'll have to redownload stable all over again. Multiplayer is not worth it if the game is unplayable performance wise. Please don't bring this over to release version.

Thanks Draconus, that's fair enough. I'm happy to wait. I'm periodically attempting to re-download the beta (because the multiplayer is much more active on beta) in the hope ESET have made adjustments and it no longer detects an issue.

As I said, each to their own. I have made my choice, I'm going with my AV. I've got two purchases I'm holding off on pending a resolution to this issue. Hopefully ED submit the files causing the problem soon and if they're safe then the AV will let it through. True about stable version but what happens when stable is updated to the open beta build and the AV picks up the files there?

I agree with Speed-of-heat. It's the publisher's responsibility to make sure their product is not running into issues like this. Each to their own but I don't intend to turn off protections. If Eagle Dynamics are aware of the issue, then they can submit the file to the affected AV provider and if it's assessed as safe, the AV provider will let it through. I wouldn't suggest turning off your AV just so you can play a game, even trusted publishers can be compromised by external parties.

I'm having massive framerate drops too, mine gets as low as 9, I just gave up in the end. I can't turn wake turbulence. I untick the box and I still have wake turbulence. So went back and ticked it, also wake turbulence. The option doesnt seem to do anything. The thing for me is, I upgraded my PC from a GTX 970 and 16GB RAM to an RTX 2060 super and 32GB RAM but the performance is worse than it was prior to the upgrade. I've got latest drivers. I had framerate issues prior to upgrading my PC but nothing this bad. To see such a significant drop in performance after spending a huge amount of money sucks. Not taking a dig at you Reflected, I really like this campaign, you've done an awesome job with it and I hope to come back to it. However, these type of issues come up time and time again with DLC campaigns (and some other content too). It's at the point for me now having bought several DLC campaigns only to find I can't finish any of them because inevitably I run into a gamebreaking problem. I have had the F86 Sabre and the Yalu campaign on my wishlist since it became available (the MiG 15 too) and with this sale you'd think I'd rush to buy it but there's just so much content that seems to work one day and not the next so I haven't bought them.

Hey again, Has anybody had a response from ESET on this issue?

Same here, but it only occurs on Open Beta, release version is no problem. I'm also using ESET. I've just opted to uninstall the beta and remain on release version. I believe ED are aware of the issue, hopefully they are submitting the file for analysis. I won't be switching off my AV or making allowances. If ESET are happy with the file, they'll let it through. Until that time, no open beta for me.

Nice, got that. It's still downloading 61gb of data. That seems excessive given that when beta moves to stable branch it's nowhere near that size. I thought the difference was more in the region of the 4gb of deltas it initially downloads. That's one thing I'll give steam, you can just switch between the two no worries. I'm glad I'm not using steam but yea I don't have that kind of space on my SSD. It'll fit but there won't be much space afterwards.

Oh ok, will it redownload those files and delete the old ones after install or is it going to take up another 61gb of space?

Thanks for the rapid replies. I ended up using CMD prompt. I just couldn't figure powershell out. Fingers crossed I find a little more multiplayer on open beta, Stable is pretty much dead. Edit: ok so rather than just downloading the additional/different files like I thought it would, it's now doing a 61gb download and really filling up my tiny SSD.

Hey guys, When I go to open the command prompt I have to do it I only have the option of using Powershell in the bin folder. If I type .\DCS_updater.exe update @open beta it just runs the updater.exe and leaves it in stable version. What am I missing here?

I am, I used to have the beta but I don't want both on my hard drive at the same time. I take it the multiplayer takes place on beta does it? Didn't know that haha, that's probably me limited to single player then. Edit: Unless there's a way of having both stable and beta installed at the same time without doubling up on the core files.

Yea I think I’ll probably give them a miss. I still can’t see those Cold War servers listed in multiplayer for me to join. I focus on single player but recently made the switch to multiplayer. The full servers seem to all be “training” servers where there’s no fighting. Will stick with modules that have a good choice of campaigns and single missions. Thanks anyway.

Thanks guys, this try before you buy period has been great. I've bought modules in the past and just not liked them (AV8B), not because they're bad modules, the Harrier is awesome, I just don't like it. The MiG and Sabre are absolutely fantastic. To be able to fly WW2 aircraft, then transition to early jets, onto more developed jets like the MiG-19 and MiG-21, then up to the more modern gear is, for me, the best part of this sim. If I could only pick one out of MiG 15 and Sabre it'd be the MiG but this current sale and the Grimreapers promo code means if I am going to get them I may as well get the 1950s stuff together. How did you go about learning the mission editor? I've watched numerous videos and have just found I can't get certain things like triggers to work, or make meaningful enemies. I'm happy enough using WW2 assets for the 1950s period. It's not perfect but it'll do. Wish they had more 1950s/1960s air combat out there, it really was a fascinating period for aviation.

Really like the aircraft, would like to buy this along with the F-86 while they're on sale but I can't really find any content for them. I'd like to dogfight online but I can't find the elusive 'Cold War' servers I've heard about and there really isn't any single player content. Is somebody able to shed some light on how to get the best out of these modules? I don't need to be sold on the modules themselves, they're awesome, especially the simulation of control difficulties at high speed, it's something ive never seen in another sim. But beyond flying around and doing some instant actions, I can't see much use for them.

I have seen a response in another thread I started a couple of days ago before I saw this thread. Hiromachi says they are aware of it. I’m not sure about a fix. Since it also happens to a lesser degree on the MiG 19 I think they’re not sure whether it’s a module issue or a broader DCS issue. I didn’t used to have this problem with the MiG 21 and back then I had a much inferior GPU and half the RAM I have now. Somewhere in the last few updates this has happened so I would have thought it’ll be fixable.

Well hopefully there’s a resolution soon, I like the MiG 21 and for a time was able to use it without issue but at the moment it’s unuseable for some of us.

Hi Hiromachi, Thanks for commenting. I did a lot of trialing with different graphics settings yesterday to see how if I could find something which made it better. High vs low settings made no difference. The framerate dropped to around 20-30 at times with RADAR on even with low settings. I am typically achieving 100+ FPS on mostly high settings with the RADAR off. Also, I didn't have issues back when I was using a Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 but have recently upgraded to Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super. If it helps, RAZBAM's MiG 19 also has framerate drops with RADAR on but they are nowhere near as severe. Also, the MiG 19 has an option in the settings to have the RADAR give a static display as oppose to dynamic display. This purportedly eliminates FPS drops due to RADAR. Is it possible for you to implement something like that?

Does the training mission for navigation work properly? I've been trying to tune 1000 mhz for the last half an hour and it won't tune anything. I've been able to tune up some NDBs in free flight but not in this training mission. The fine adjustment knob seems really difficult to use. To hold left click and move mouse up and down is not fine enough to select some precise frequencies but to use mouse wheel barely does anything unless you mouse wheel quickly in which case it moves too quickly and you skip frequencies. Any ideas?