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Crank them bad boys right up, there's minimal impact on FPS :smilewink:

with different PC specs, and hardware.. what I'm noticing, regardless of the aircraft, with DS On, there's never been a difference with how the sea looks on my system, but there deffo seems to be an issue with yours.. even with 3rd party addons, it's not making any difference to performance for me, I'm simply not seeing what you're seeing, unless I switch off DS, then it goes flat, and the sea loses vibrance.. but I just don't get the flat dark sea look. I'm not wanting to mess about with any settings right now, as I'm pretty happy with the results I'm seeing, and getting, there's always graphical issues with updates, due to the varying hardware the end user is using, and also the age and lifespan of things such as monitors etc. No matter, I'm sure the guys at ED will have it all sorted over a period of time, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't and if they hadn't of released, when they said they would, there would still be an uproar, I can bide my time, right now my main joystik piled in and stopped working, so trying to enjoy the terrains using a game controller, that's seriously over sensitive!! :D

Where did I say anything in your screens was more realistic? I said theres not much difference in the sea textures, when you have DS off compared to mine being on.. :thumbup: I've posted pics of my DS on, and they're not the same as yours, on or off and yet you're disputing something I'm not seeing with DS on or off with the same mission? Apples and Oranges, I just did the free fly over Nevada with the F5E, with DS on/off, the difference leaps out at you, for me, again DS seems to be doing its job, everything is crisper, and Richer, if that makes sense? As I said from the start, DS off for me is flat washed out, poor textures, DS on, a million times better.. If we're going to be nit picky about the sea, unless it's flat calm, they can lose the land reflections that ARE present with DS on :smilewink: as it's not realistic either ! And what I meant was in my previous post DS needs to be off, not on, for the sea textures.. just a simple typo .

I don't seem to have that mission, the A10 one.. How can you disagree, when I posted exactly what I'm seeing, you have stated that the sea was black and devoid of any feature, and yet the same one you post with DS off looks not much different? I fail to see what point you're trying to make here, other than that DS doesn't seem to be working for you, and several others..you're comparing apples to Oranges with the look of the sea, unless you have a gradient shoreline and more opacity, then of course the sea is going to look the same at the shoreline. What's clear from your pictures, is that DS needs to be on in your case, when I take off DS, everything has more of a washed out look to it, and the saturation is poor, and reminiscent of 1.5XX hence why people are using reshade, without DS.. Isn't this merely a case of making the video settings work for you ? I have no technical answer mate, it could also come down to the manufacture of the GPU card, DS off is bland, and piss poor for me, DS on, is a whole lot better, doesn't this come down to personal preferences as well??

Couldn't find any A10 training mission from Batumi, but that's the F5E one, the cockpit lighting/colours look normal/natural/as should be to me ? Not seeing the sea as black with no detail either.. As you an see from my settings, I'm pushing the boundaries in terms of shading, and AA, but it's working for me with DS on..

Many of the problems you're alluding to are down to the individuals personal set ups, and graphics card settings etc, as not everyone is suffering from the same issues, and anyone who thought that this release, would be as polished as a diamond had way too high expectations for an initial release IMHO. Name one flight sim/game as complex as DCS, that hasn't had its fair share of issues on release? with all the issues you've brought up. Interestingly, you don't actually list the issues you're having.. Some users are just straight up lucky, and everything performance, and graphics wise does as it should, without having to use the likes of reshade, or their GPU settings.. Can't speak on behalf of others, but for me personally, I'm getting better FPS than 2.2/1.58, no graphics issues apart from the odd slow load time, which lasts a few seconds. I'm not using a beast of a machine either, i5 4460, 16GB RAM and nvidea GTX 970, have pretty much everything set to High by default, and MSAA and AA turned to Max, there's an odd stutter, but other than that, feels and looks good from my own perspective.. however, like all software, not everyone gets the same experience. Some of the DCS fly boys have clamoured for this release for months, and now that it's here, the issues are being thrown back in their faces because again, some of them are sadly not seeing what others are seeing, for some reason or another. Things can only get better, you can rest assured ED will be following up on these issues, and don't forget, it's a brand new build, as in the Terrain. I love it, down low, flying in between the valleys, has a much better feel than any of the previous ED releases.. Happy Flying :D

You do understand that this "update" is still very much Work in Progress, and that's why it's an open beta, and not the final product? :music_whistling:

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Never thought about that, only just getting back into DCS, and what a great time to get back into it, spent the past few years retexturing stuff in Arma3 but now want to try my hand at DCS aircraft !! I must say, the VSN aircraft all look mega in 2.5 !! :thumbup:

Having a blast with these in 2.5 especially the Tornado GR4.. if only I could get them to drop A/G laser weapons, and get the A10 avionics suite working so can use LGB's.. Superb Mod !!

Is it normal to be constantly getting logged out after 5 minutes??

Yeah, It copies a few, when you say yes, but then the remainder show this sort of error for me "failed to copy as they're in use by another application" despite nothing running.

I gave up trying to be honest, and stopped the download, as it was running at 17.6 KB's... yes KB's. I've copied all the MOD folders, and _Download folders, and going to install the new open beta to a different drive.. well that was the plan..So my modules, and terrains should not need a full install again. but pretty much every file that needs copied I'm getting this error "ERROR: move_file failed: Can't move C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World 2 OpenAlpha\API/DCS_ControlAPI.html to E:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\_downloads\API/DCS_ControlAPI.html: (32) The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process." I've no idea what this other process is.

I feel your pain, 24 hours solid for me too, only to have it fail as it smashed up the space on my hdd. The thought of deleting the old version, and downloading it all again to another drive has almost broke me.. Nevada map especially!!

Patience was never really my strong point when it comes to DCS, so I've changed my stable 1.58 to Open beta, and as far as I can tell, it's updating to 2.5.. it's downloading a whopping 50GB worth of something. In Hindsight, I was probably better off waiting the extra time to have standalone updater, and uninstalling either my 2.2 or my 1.58 version, it's quite possible, the bulk of this download is actually my Nevada map, as that ****er comes in at 30GB. Judging by the time so far, on my shit connection, the standalone updater might be available before this "update" is complete !! :D Happy Flying chaps, so far all the updated terrain videos appearing on YouTube are ranting about the "stunning" update, and it's extremely positive. I've returned to DCS after a long hiatus, after modding for Arma3 for a couple of years, and super stoked to get bak into the air again

pretty sure it's been said 1-2 weeks AFTER the Initial alpha release

They mentioned an early release in a recent news letter.

Some Royal Thai Air Force skins would be sweet.

Yeah I'm a mod over at Militaryphotos, and I'm pretty sure only mods have the power to edit thread titles.. as we use the same style over there :D

I figured that editing part out LOL :D, but thanks to everyone who assisted in any shape or form, it's appreciated

Peter, I apologise for not being tech savvy in this area, and attaching such things as dxdiagnostic files is all new to me, having never done it before.. I don't particularly want to read the do's and don't on etiquette and the exact way how things should be done, when I simply wanted to know if there was an issue with my game mate.. But I do understand where you're coming from, and if I can figure out ways to edit headings, I'll put the SOLVED part in front. Whatever it was, uninstalling, then reinstalling and patching to 1.111 before doing anything seems to have worked ;) I do appreciate ALL the help and responses though guys , time to get back into the cockpit and fly this beastie

It done nothing, when you talk about seeing a dxdiag, are you wanting to see the full report? I'm doing a complete uninstal and patch then see if it resolves anything Ok a fresh install and patch seems to have done the trick..

Yeah I get ya, but the HOTAS works on other games and sims, what I'm experiencing here is a total inability to do anything even when they're not plugged in, I can't even fly it via keyboard

I deleted every keystroke under the basic contorols options for my hardware and then used the add keys from one of the forum members here.. nothing worked, I cannot fly even with the controllers unplugged.. JG14, nothing stuck, brand new keyboard/desktop.. I'm not having any controller issues with FSX either, I'm able to calibrate and check axis fine, just this one isn't doing a damn thing, with or without controllers attached...

yeah will try that, tried deleting EVERYTHING in the input settings, redone axis control, which worked within that menu, but as soon as it enters the game, the default view pans out, and not a single keystroke works, you can't hear "anything" clicking. I even have a the DCS Black Shark setting running through T.A.R.G.E.T to no avail, I've had it running in the background, closed it, re checked it's working, but as soon as I'm in the cockpit... it's deader than a dead thing