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How long does ATI normally take to produce good drivers after a new card? My trigger finger is still itchy for this card but I want to see positive results for you guys first.. Well we should say thanks for being the guinea pigs :) Do either of you own Rise of Flight and would be able to test if it works too? It's free to play anyway if you haven't http://www.riseofflight.com My two favorite sims, if I see ROF and DCS work on this then I will buy an XFX 7970

Kind of good news that all those other games work, but for DCS to not work... I hope it's not something that AMD will ignore. Because of this I'm hesitant to make the purchase now.. not sure what to do as I need to buy something to plug my second two monitors into and Nvidia only has 2 ports. Maybe I'll wait and see

This doesn't mean there are no bugs in the driver for 64bit mode games. It doesn't matter what the OS or driver is, fact remains most mainstream games are 32 bit executables and DCS is probably not tested by AMD because it doesn't have the 50million kiddie following that other games draw

True about the game starting... But there is still 32 bit paths paths to directx even on 64bit O/S so that 32bit games can run. But I'm still curious about the 32 bit, always a chance that AMD has a bug for 64bit games. It's not like 64bit games grow on trees, the only one they probably stress tested is Crysis 64 and I wouldn't be shocked if they haven't tested any 64bit game.. Although they should have. But don't use up an activation, just if you're testing it anyway on 64, then try both

64 bit A-10? Did you try 32bit? Maybe AMD drivers do not include 64bit in beta...

Hopefully just a driver issue. In other news I just heard the 8970 is also due out this year - after Nvidia puts its cards on the table lol. Can't wait forever though and this year could mean December...

Sounds dodgy, reviews said the fan quiet... Any other mainstream games work?

Nothing wrong with that power supply those Corsairs provide plenty of amps Does the fan spin up? Do you see it physically spin? Frankly I'm a little concerned for myself as well, been on Nvidia for years and not ever have I needed to use driver sweeper. I use Nvidia beta drivers etc and everything has always worked flawlessly. I can even alt tab in and out of any game. But if AMD can't even manage an uninstalled or a driver updated installer that is a worry.. I wonder when the GTX 680 is due out

Which games do work? Have you tried 32 bit exe for DCS?

I don't know ATI drivers very well... what about the Catalyst drivers? I thought driver versions were like Catalyst 11, or the new one Catalyst 12.1 or 12.2? Maybe try a new driver from the AMD website?

Not good to hear... Which drivers version?

That is so funny! In the time I'm thinking about reading reviews and things I look back here and you have it in your hands lol. Well maybe you don't need to wait until OC models comes, because you could overclock it yourself? Is it the base model? What is ATI like in replacing the heatsink/fan? Is it as easy as a CPU or is it a bitch to mess with? Would you be able to do me a favor and check the eyefinity settings to see if you can enter a resolution of 4960x1600 ie Portrait landscape portrait PLP? Supposedly custom resolutions are allowed now...

Yeah I see that now - 2 mini DP plus HDMI and DVI. So I can get 2 via DP then the left monitor on the DVI. Maybe a 7" LCD on top to display teamspeak on the 4th one, my wife will kill me lol PCCaseGear and UMart are stocking them over $700, but no sign of the OC models yet :(

Don't get impatient :) Default card has only one mini-DP, then DVI and HDMI. Displayport doesn't get any screen tearing apparently. Not sure about HDMI, but at least one of the side screens could potentially have some tearing. Even if you don't get the 6 port 6gb card, the other Sapphire models include one at factory overclock 1335mhz and possibly with a water block. Anyone know much more about eyefinity? If my center monitor has displayport, should I use a mini-DP to DP adapter or go for mini-DP to dual-link DVI? Is there any difference in results?

Thats a shame, but at least the 7970 will be very overclockable. Maybe can just run all on one card. Sapphire is doing a 6GB model with 6 ports. They are also doing a 3GB model factory overclocked to 1335Mhz!!!

I've heard Eyefinity 2.0 will allow PLP (picture landscape portrait) configurations, so I'm watching these cards closely! I have 20" portrait, 30" landscape, 20" portrait, all 1600p so at the same vertical resolution I don't see why not... Been waiting so long though for one of the two competitors to allow it in drivers it feels too good to be true, so I'm waiting to see more reviews with custom multimonitor configs. Does anyone know if DCS can take advantage of Crossfire? Or does DCS only use one card?

When it says unplug at the end, unplug it and close the program it is finished. Would be better if it said that :doh: But anyway it works for me, fixed the joystick not going into corners for me.

Thanks ED! Faster than I thought

Happened to me too, but it was just corrupted. I did the holding buttons trick to load the bulk driver then reloaded firmware. did they get you to try that? Must be warthog day though, my anti friction ring busted in my warthog joystick after a whole Saturdays abuse in the A-10. Was able to open it and repair it temporarily until someone sends me a replacement. But I think it's all worth it, to fly with this gear

Thanks for the missions Dragon. We had some great training today, worked our way up to the ships. Unfortunately when we finally succeeded in destroying them the server crashes, no fault of your own it's probably the latest patch. But I'd love to know if you guys also experience a server crash on killing the ships? We tried both types of ships, GBU-31, or mavericks, always crashes. Logged it anyway: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1354340#post1354340 Cheers

I'm a defender of the game, not a complainer. When BS2 was released I paid the full $40 and I was the strongest supporter of this pricing model - there were lots of complaints on simhq and I shot them down as much as I could. One of the biggest complaints was about not having DCS aircraft all in the same game as addon aircraft. I'm fine with this and the complexity is understandable. But I'm just saying that it makes sense to keep all games compatible if they are to remain separate titles. Totally works around the above issue. 1 week is not a big deal, I'm just hoping it doesn't happen more than that with 3 or 4 titles in the future

No, games will never be as important as real life. We communicate if we get on TS, or if we have a chance to check the forum, but no we don't have live communication all the time. At the end of the day, we've "communicated" via our forum that we want the patch on and ready - because if we said to NOT install the patch and 1 person hasn't been reading the forum and updated, on the training day then everyone has to download the patch and wait 3 hours... Nobody likes messing around with patches at the time, better to do it in advance. Lastly - why do we have to be a "tight knit group"? What's wrong with loose groups of players enjoying servers like the 104th where all the DCS/FC3 aircraft will be able to fly together? They would be messed up also if the patches are split over several weeks for future FC3 and 3 DCS titles. Anyway, all of that doesn't matter, neither does your post, because it doesn't change my original point - it makes more sense to release the patches on the same day just like other integrated flight sims do.

It's too hard to go back once someone has got excited and put the patch on... we internet gamers don't all communicate by phones etc, we only "see" each other if the others are on teamspeak.

Why don't they release on the same day? It's not good for MP, we had something planned for Saturday and now we are limited to the A-10 because at least 1 will have already installed it. Seems like they are close enough that a simultaneous release would have worked later in the week... This is even more important when they get FC3 and the 3rd DCS title out - I hope they will get the releases in sync then

Sounds good, working alot at the moment but getting a few more mates setup on A-10. Some reason the emails don't update me on this section that often, so send me a PM if you guys organizing something. Only problem is a server that has both a graphics card and fast upload speed.