OnlyforDCS Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Those reports are not conflicting. The EFM is already flying, but in a pre-alpha state. That does not guarantee that it will be ready for release. Im not sure I follow. If the plane is already flying with the EFM. Why would they not release it in a pre-alpha state? Even in that state it's probably leaps and bounds ahead of any proprietary SFM... Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
westr Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Ok but if not ready for release it sounds like it's reasonably close :) RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV
QuiGon Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) The startup process isnt complete it starts so quick. :) I wondered the same. How is the engine beeing started btw? Does the M2000 has an APU or can it only be started with an external jet starter? Also, why did he start the engine first and while it was spooling up he activated the battery? And what about all the other stuff? He hasn't turned on anything besides the radar. If I think aout all the switches I need to activate in the A-10C, KA-50 or even the MiG-21 it seems odd. Edited September 24, 2015 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
VincentLaw Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Im not sure I follow. If the plane is already flying with the EFM. Why would they not release it in a pre-alpha state?There is a lot between "an EFM that flies" and one that is ready for release. There could still be unfinished features, like weapons stores not causing drag, change in mass from fuel flow, or bugs in edge of the envelope conditions like high angle of attack. Even once the flight model coding is basically finished, it will require tweaking and testing to get it to perform as close to a Mirage 2000 flight envelope as possible. This might be exaggerating a little, but I don't think anyone wants to fight against an unfinished Mirage 2000 that can fly Mach 3. Bringing NTTR to DCS has been around 90% done for a couple years now, and it still isn't ready for release yet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninety-ninety_rule [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Cantiga Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 The startup process isnt complete it starts so quick. :) Engine startup process is not so complex. The only thing you must do, is INS alignment. It takes a time(like A-10C).
WinterH Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 I think you folks may be misinterpreting "aldready flying with EFM" part. Matt's video told it is currently with SFM, Zeus said EFM will only be released when they deem it ready (implying it may or may not be SFM instead during initial beta). On the other hand, EFM is obviously in development and, obviously developer's version of it will fly in a few computers, like the developer's own :). After all, bringing a proper flight model (be it EFM, AFM, PFM whichever) to customer flyable state takes way longer than how much it takes to deliver a decent SFM (if there can be such a thing as decent SFM, but I digress :) ) Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
OnlyforDCS Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Well I don't have sound at work, so couldnt hear what was said in the latest video. Thanks for clarifying that the plane is flying with an SFM currently. I guess Im not going to be preordering after all :cry: Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
QuiGon Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Yes, Matt said in the video that he's showing the SFM, but EFM is under development (6:30). Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Bogey Jammer Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 The startup process isnt complete it starts so quick. :) Some steps may be removed because of secrecy, but it is said on some French forums that there are some errors in the procedure compared to the real checklists. I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module
Uther Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Looks great, but I think I may wait to buy until the EFM is ready. i5 4690k / MSI Gaming 5 / 2 x 8 GB Crucial Ballistix ram / Zotac AMP! 980Ti / 2 x 250 SSDs Flight Controls:Virpil VPC MoogoosT-50 / MFG Crosswinds / GVL Throttle / Oculus Rift CV1
NORTHMAN Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Well I don't have sound at work, so couldnt hear what was said in the latest video. Thanks for clarifying that the plane is flying with an SFM currently. I guess Im not going to be preordering after all :cry: I dont have video at all :cry: still 3h30 to wait! :doh: Prend ton temps mais fait ca vite :cold:... LG34''21:9 Asus 23''monitors Intel i7-4590 EVGA 1070 Superclocked Gskills 4x4G RAM Fatal1ty AsRock Z97 killer motherboard in a HAF black box with 4 CH products plug in and logitech G510, F310, M510 and M570 plus trackIR 5!
Flamin_Squirrel Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Looks great, but I think I may wait to buy until the EFM is ready. I'd have held off too if I'd known that it may not release with EFM. If this is what happens I'll be annoyed, as this wasn't made clear. In fact, RAZBAM/ED really should clarify this ASAP.
Maxzouz Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 The startup process isnt complete it starts so quick. :) Actually referring to the "Manuel Pilote" available on the internet (Compressed version of the flight manual) the start-up actions are just like we see in the video. See here Since you're French I will not translate this for you. But Wags is doing those steps to start-up the bird :). The entire start up procedure is, referring to the manual, mostly concentrated on checks.
didilman Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Actually referring to the "Manuel Pilote" available on the internet (Compressed version of the flight manual) the start-up actions are just like we see in the video. See here Since you're French I will not translate this for you. But Wags is doing those steps to start-up the bird :). The entire start up procedure is, referring to the manual, mostly concentrated on checks. No worry buddy , je peux lire. :) Merci camarade!! au plaisir de te dogfighter en multi.
Bogey Jammer Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Actually referring to the "Manuel Pilote" available on the internet (Compressed version of the flight manual) the start-up actions are just like we see in the video. See here … Since you're French I will not translate this for you. But Wags is doing those steps to start-up the bird :). The entire start up procedure is, referring to the manual, mostly concentrated on checks. This looks like a systems state check list. There is almost no switch operation listed and I seriously doubt it requires to press on the red engine start button only like a douche's supercar I'll buy : МиГ-23МЛД & МЛА МиГ-27К МиГ-25 Mirage III F-4E any IJ plane 1950' Korea Dynamic campaign module
didilman Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 I dont care SFM or EFM All i care is to fly a Dassault plane with clickable cockpit. :)
PiedDroit Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 That moving line on the radar is kind of disturbing, it's moving with the horizon but at only half the value. I never flew the F-15C, I know it has a similar line on the radar display but I don't know if it's behaving the same, anyone can confirm?
PiedDroit Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 This looks like a systems state check list. There is almost no switch operation listed and I seriously doubt it requires to press on the red engine start button only like a douche's supercar If the real aircraft has lots automated systems, it makes sense to use them. Simplified does not mean unrealistic! Here is the egine startup sequence from the only manual I have for the m2000 (the link is somewhere in this forum), it's quite short actually: Anyway, great video!
Python Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 I think you will like this. Like it? I loved it! The model looks great, glad I pre-orderd it now and I suspect you will get a boost in sales after this video. Flight Model looks good!!! It's just the SFM, I guess you'll be very impressed when the proper EFM arrives then. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Schmirco Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Okay, looks very good but i hope we get a EFM with release of this awesome Jet. Please not another Module with SFM.
Python Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Okay, looks very good but i hope we get a EFM with release of this awesome Jet. Please not another Module with SFM. EFM is very much on the way... . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OnlyforDCS Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Just to be clear. I will gladly buy the module at full price once the EFM is released, however I can't commit to a 'maybe' at release. IMO the FM is the most important part of any aircraft's simulation. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Schmirco Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 What shows the Video, the SFM or the EFM ? The Flight Modul in this Video is what i mean with "looks good"
Python Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 What shows the Video, the SFM or the EFM ? The Flight Modul in this Video is what i mean with "looks good" See my last comment, it is the SFM... EFM is very much on the way... . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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