Bacab Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 We may see the 530F but there is no chance to see a MICA on it (that would be very unrealistic). Then I don't really understand why someone would like to use the F variant of the Super 530 which is older than the D variant. For your information those are the weapons the FSX version of the plane has (same developers, at least for the model): As far as I know the LGB can be droped but they require to be guided by another plane which has a laser designator or by ground troops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why is it unrealistic or is the Mirage 2000 thats being modeld an earlier version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty [CPC] Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 MICAs can't be carried by the 2000C, only later versions (-5, -9) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Cant wait!!! i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) ok thank you dusty. There where upgrades to the Mirage 2000C though that included the IR Mica (dosent say anything about the Radar version) But guess we are getting a stock 2000C? But it will be awsome non the less! Edited November 25, 2014 by mattebubben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty [CPC] Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 From what I read, it will be a 2000C with RDI, hence the 530D. But afaik the first 2000 upgrade capable of using MICAs is the 2000-5 (so with RDY), which is an almost different aircraft. 2000C are technically capable of carrying MICAs, but not use them, so it would be pointless. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focha Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 [VV]http://vimeo.com/81861242[/VV] http://vimeo.com/81861242 Can't wait! :joystick: ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattebubben Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 That video reallly made me want the Mirage to 2000 like yesterday => i want it naaaooo! =I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danguard Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Nice work Guys, I used this plane in BMS. I have a question for you: do you think to implement air to ground radar or only air to air? My question is due to lack in all DCS models of an AG radar, because probably not implemented in the code. Regards D. [sIGPIC]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6003/danguard.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Man i love single engine delta wing fighters. <3<3<3<3<3<3 :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakatak Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Reading other simmers opinions on the FSX version of M2M's M2000C and RAZBAM's Metroliner really boosted my confidence in this project. It looks like they do great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dartuil Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 They should stop FSX version (for the moment) and focus on DCS. Cant wait!! i7 2600k -- Noctua NH-D14--Asrock Z75 Pro3--ASUS GTX970 Strix --16Go Ripjaws X 1333--Thermaltake Smart M650--CoolerMaster Silencio 652S--AOC E2752VQ-- Sandisk Extreme II 480GB--Saitek X-52 Pro --SAITEK PZ35 Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratos Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Nice work Guys, I used this plane in BMS. I have a question for you: do you think to implement air to ground radar or only air to air? My question is due to lack in all DCS models of an AG radar, because probably not implemented in the code. Regards D. The C version carry a A-G radar? Are you sure? I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacab Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 No, only the N, the D and the -9 version of the Mirage 2000 carry the AG radar. The confusion seems to come from the fact that in BMS the 2000 has the avionic of the F-16 (with a few tweaks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentLaw Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) No, only the N, the D and the -9 version of the Mirage 2000 carry the AG radar. The confusion seems to come from the fact that in BMS the 2000 has the avionic of the F-16 (with a few tweaks). This is what I have found that mentions the air to ground capability of the RDI: http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1980/1980%20-%201654.PDF http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1988/1988%20-%202724.PDF http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1985/1985%20-%201314.PDF The most important part is: The RDI, pulse-doppler radar, was designed for air superiority missions and interception missions at any altitude (whatever the relative difference in target height or sector) on very high performance aircraft with long-range missile fire control. Although the RDI was basically designed for air-air missions, it can also effect mapping, ground avoidance and air-ground range finding. The official publication (manufacturer advertisement) clearly states that the RDI radar used in the Mirage 2000C is capable of ground mapping. It is unclear to me whether people think the RDI has no air to ground capability because the government is trying to hide that information or if that feature was not implemented in the avionics. Edited November 27, 2014 by VincentLaw fixed broken links [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty [CPC] Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) It is unclear to me whether people think the RDI has no air to ground capability because the government is trying to hide that information or if that feature was not implemented in the avionics. Or because it is irrelevant in missions for which the 2000C is used. :smilewink: Keep in mind the M2Ks are mission specific aircraft; the RDI has the AG capabilities of an Antilope in AA, i.e. it sucks and is avoided if possible. Edited November 27, 2014 by Dusty [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacab Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 This is what I have found that mentions the air to ground capability of the RDI: http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1980/1980%20-%201654.PDF http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1988/1988%20-%202724.PDF http://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1985/1985%20-%201314.PDF The most important part is: The official publication (manufacturer advertisement) clearly states that the RDI radar used in the Mirage 2000C is capable of ground mapping. It is unclear to me whether people think the RDI has no air to ground capability because the government is trying to hide that information or if that feature was not implemented in the avionics. I'm not sure it has been implemented because the on-board software is pushed to its extreme limits. I think I've heard that in order to carry some AG ordnance they needed to change the software by another version without some of the AA capacities. because the government is trying to hide I don't know why they would do that since they are specific AG variants of the 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danguard Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 No, only the N, the D and the -9 version of the Mirage 2000 carry the AG radar. The confusion seems to come from the fact that in BMS the 2000 has the avionic of the F-16 (with a few tweaks). True, but a common feature of all plane in DCS is the absence of an air to ground radar and that it's really clear in all models developed for this simulator. Do you want some some example? KA50 and not KA52 because the second one uses an air to ground radar like AH64 longobow, but in the reality Russia produced not a big number of this chopper, focusing the attenction on KA52 project. A10C no AG radar like in the reality and FC3 really nice vehicles with a simplified avionics and no mouse clickable pit and not only one aicraft with AG radar guided capabilities. The same situation for all 3rd part project released or not: Mig21, F86 Sabre, HAWK etc. etc. all planes w/o AG radar. I'm not a software developer, but my idea is that they never worked on an air to ground radar and for that my concerne is for F/A18 Hornet by Coretex project, because an Hornet without AG radar should be little bit pointless. Sorry guys for the little OT, you're making an awesome work in this M2000 project. D. [sIGPIC]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6003/danguard.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakatak Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Do you want some some example? KA50 and not KA52 because the second one uses an air to ground radar like AH64 longobow, but in the reality Russia produced not a big number of this chopper, focusing the attenction on KA52 project. They went with the Ka-50 because it's a single seat and therefore perfect for simulation. And the A-10 does not have an A/G radar. ED has an A/G radar in the works with the Charlie Hornet but it's not done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Actually the A-10C has a ground radar, BOTH in real life and in DCS... it's just used to get height over ground in low level flight below 5,000 ft. :D Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 LOL, yeah, if you put it that way.... :D DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danguard Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 They went with the Ka-50 because it's a single seat and therefore perfect for simulation. And the A-10 does not have an A/G radar. ED has an A/G radar in the works with the Charlie Hornet but it's not done yet. Really? And UH1-H? It's not a single seat. Yes i know A10C is w/o A/G radar that's a reason because they developed ;). Actually the A-10C has a ground radar, BOTH in real life and in DCS... it's just used to get height over ground in low level flight below 5,000 ft. :D Sorry it's not correct. A10 has a TAD with terrain map, improved with information obtained from datalink and TGP and inertial navigation system, it's not a radar AG. I know the avionics of this aircraft in DCS becaused i used for a lot of from the first beta and i'm still using. D. [sIGPIC]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/6003/danguard.jpg[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aginor Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Shagrat was joking, he was referring to the radar altimeter, which is a radar, and it is looking at the ground. I think he is aware that it is not the kind of ground radar you were talking about. :) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virun Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Guys, what type of flight model will be used in this project: SFM or AFM/PFM? Активно летаю на: F/A-18 | F-16 | Су-27 | МиГ-21бис Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakatak Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Really? And UH1-H? It's not a single seat. Yes i know A10C is w/o A/G radar that's a reason because they developed Belsimtek is not ED. ED is introducing their own ideal multiseat with the L-39 which will have multiplayer compatibility, something the UH-1H doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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