tomcatter Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 a little corrections..... ED F/A-18C + VEAO Bae Hawk + Belsimtek AH-1G Cobra / F-86E Sabre + Coretex F/A-18E + RAZBAM T-2 / Mirage 2000C + L-39 Albatros + AvioDev C101 (In no put all of them) 15 study sims 7 simplified sims ED FW-190D-9 + RRG Studios P-47, Spitfire XI, Bf-109K-4, Me-262 20 Study Sims + 2 if Belsimtek aprove F-15C Study sim and Su-27S 7 simplified sims At the moment, the half of your list is pure science fiction....
HansRoaming Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 If Coretex's F-18E is equivalent to the VRS F-18E then I'll be happy.
grimm862 Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 If FC3 is an arcade fighter game then what would you call ace combat and HAWK?
MatzWarhog Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 My issue?? The A-10C is near unflyable at present due to crashes. Where is the A-10C in the changelog? AMD FX8350 @ 4.2Ghz x 8, Asus M5A99FX Pro UEFI Board, 16Gb RAM @1600Mhz, EVGA GTX660 2Gb DDR5, 120Gig Corsair SSD SATA3 Boot Drive, Dual Corsair SSD FORCE 60Gig for gaming, TM Warthog HOTAS and Cougars, Saitek Proflight Pedals, TrackIR 5 w/Pro Clip, and WAY Too much time on my hands. :pilotfly:
diveplane Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 My issue?? The A-10C is near unflyable at present due to crashes. Where is the A-10C in the changelog? post your crash log data and findings in bug thread. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
Steel Jaw Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Flaming Cliffs isn't an arcade game. Then you and I have different definitions of "arcade game", sir, for it darn near is so. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
ED Team NineLine Posted March 31, 2014 ED Team Posted March 31, 2014 Then you and I have different definitions of "arcade game", sir, for it darn near is so. I'll bite... define arcade game for us. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
SkateZilla Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I had to study the keyboard commands for FC3 Longer than I Did the Procedures for the A-10C. Just Sayin' Perspective / Target Audience. I Prefer Clicking everything over pressing a few commands and have everything done for me automatically. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
lunaticfringe Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Because it doesn't have dozens upon dozens of clicky switches. Forget the fact that the F-15, Su-27, and MiG-29 have all of their primary weaponeering functions on the stick and throttle- if he doesn't get to touch his mouse, he doesn't feel complete. Seriously- he could sit down in an actual F-15 simulator, and he'd call it an arcade game.
cichlidfan Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Then you and I have different definitions of "arcade game", sir, for it darn near is so. darn near is = isn't ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
outlawal2 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 At the moment, the half of your list is pure science fiction.... Actually, no, the list shows a working progress towards finishing what everyone is asking for in the first place... (These are complex modules and they take time to complete.) Peoples expectations and how quickly they want things completed.. Now THAT is science fiction... :thumbup: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
SkateZilla Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Because it doesn't have dozens upon dozens of clicky switches. Forget the fact that the F-15, Su-27, and MiG-29 have all of their primary weaponeering functions on the stick and throttle- if he doesn't get to touch his mouse, he doesn't feel complete. Seriously- he could sit down in an actual F-15 simulator, and he'd call it an arcade game. Last time I Sat in a F-15C I dont recall SHIFT+HOME Keys labeled Auto Start on the Engine Panel. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
K2mil Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 If a module has a AFM, 6 DOF cockpit , Radar Systems and realistic Weapons Payload. Than how in the world you can call it ARCADE.... I just got FC3 and I'm still trying to figure out how to bind my HOTAS Now Ace Combat game where A10 and F117 would have unlimited a2a missiles and act like fighter jet... Now that's ARCADE...And fun 1 INTEL CORE I7 6700K ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ASUS ROG GTX1080Ti Strix OC 16GB @ 4100 MHz |CORSAIR Intel 730 SSD 240GB Corsair 850 W Modular PSU Corsair Obsidian 650d Logitech X-56 HOTAS ,Saitek X-65F HOTAS, Pro Ruder Pedals, Pro Flight Instrument Panel NP TrackIr 5 Pro Windows 10 PRO
tsumikae Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I had to study the keyboard commands for FC3 Longer than I Did the Procedures for the A-10C. Just Sayin' Perspective / Target Audience. I Prefer Clicking everything over pressing a few commands and have everything done for me automatically. Exactly. Studying and learning the various systems of the KA or the A10 or other study sim is indeed time consuming, but still less tedious than learning by heart a bazillion of keyboard shortcuts consisting of ctrl+alt+shift+cold water button+spacebar epicness. And more fun, too, but I digress. Anyway, while I'm definitely more interested in the study sim level of DCS, I'm glad that more accessible, casual sims are available for DCS. That means more people playing DCS.
Jumbik Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Comparing FC level planes to arcade games is a bit off I would say. Show me any other arcade flight sim that will do following things to you when certain situations happen... Killing you when you over G. Tears your wings of when you over G. Asks you to start up your engines in different way than increasing throttle. Will not allow you to fire unless you enable your weapons and choose the proper mode. Will shut off your engine if you fly in a bad manner. Will require a proper fuel management. Will not give you radar and instant targeting for any enemy near you. I could continue on and on here... Do, or do not, there is no try. -------------------------------------------------------- Sapphire Nitro+ Rx Vega 64, i7 4790K ... etc. etc.
kontiuka Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 If you want to give the FC planes a label, call them survey sims. They are definitely not arcade.
VincentLaw Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 (edited) Will shut off your engine if you fly in a bad manner.One time I flew an entire mission upside down in Ace Combat just for the fun of it. I don't think MSFS cares about it either, so the first time I tried flying the A-10C upside down I was in for a surprise. I have not tried all of them, but I know the Su-25T can't sustain inverted flight either. Except for the lack of clickable pits (and maybe ground handling, it has been a while), I am generally more impressed with FC3 airplanes so far than stock FSX planes. I have only played a few hours of FC3 though. Edited March 31, 2014 by VincentLaw [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
fjacobsen Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Survey sim is the exact right word for FC3 aircraft and Study sim for A-10C, Ka-50, etc... FinnJ | i7-10700K 3.8-5.1Ghz | 64GB RAM | RTX 4070 12GB | 1x1TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 1x2TB M.2. NVMe SSD | 2x2TB SATA SSD | 1x2TB HDD 7200 RPM | Win10 Home 64bit | Meta Quest 3 |
GGTharos Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Sounds like a nice fantasy :) Well the reason why I say the F-16 is because we would just have to hop in the pit with no learning. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
lunaticfringe Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Last time I Sat in a F-15C I dont recall SHIFT+HOME Keys labeled Auto Start on the Engine Panel. Quoted for Truth.
cichlidfan Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Sounds like a nice fantasy :) I knew someone was going to say something like that.:) ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
TheRandomSqueak Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Sounds like a nice fantasy :) What? the thought of any type of multirole study sim?
cichlidfan Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 What? the thought of any type of multirole study sim? I believe GG is referring to the 'hop in the pit with no learning' part. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
GGTharos Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 What cichlidfan said. You will always have something to learn. While things will be familiar and in many cases similar, it won't all be the same. What? the thought of any type of multirole study sim? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Jumbik Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 What cichlidfan said. You will always have something to learn. While things will be familiar and in many cases similar, it won't all be the same. Exactly... about 6 years of school and training. And then you still have to be the top 3% guy if you want to fly the F-16 ... well that was at least 20 years ago. Don't know how the standards changed till then. And that's only for the chance to get to fly that thing. Then about 2 years of another training. I'm just in middle of the Viper pilot book by Dan Hampton... :music_whistling: :joystick: Do, or do not, there is no try. -------------------------------------------------------- Sapphire Nitro+ Rx Vega 64, i7 4790K ... etc. etc.
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