youtube (Google) refuses ED's licensing statement from Matt Wagner

[Pman]

Isn't it considered fair use if your clip is only a small percentage of the original work? How long was your ringtone?

 

I can say in the UK at least its considered 1 second of music is enough to claim that you need permission to use it

[VincentLaw]

I can say in the UK at least its considered 1 second of music is enough to claim that you need permission to use it

So I just need to copyright thousands of one second chords and riffs and then claim every song ever written for copyright infringement. Brilliant!

[Pman]

So I just need to copyright thousands of one second chords and riffs and then claim every song ever written for copyright infringement. Brilliant!

 

If you kept them as individual files and at around 0.8seconds per file then good luck to you for making it sound correct without falling foul of 1 second of continuous music :p

 

Pman

[Yurgon]

So I just need to copyright thousands of one second chords and riffs and then claim every song ever written for copyright infringement. Brilliant!

 

Haha, sounds like a great idea. :D

 

We had a guy trolling our performing rights society about a year ago. He created a remix that consisted of tiny samples, collected from several hundred or even several thousand copyrighted works of music. He asked them if he needed to provide a reference for each and everyone of them if he wanted to make his creation public, which they acknowledged. When he subsequently drove up to their headquarters with a truckload full of papers, they refused to take them. :D

[VTJS17_Fire]

The post by Matt linked in the OP is a bit old. I refer you to the updated EULA, specifically 3.4 (Section 3 being "Licence Conditions"):

 

3.4 Video production by you using DCS products is allowed for Youtube advertisement revenue generation.

 

You can find this in the documents folder of your install (note: the install location on your drive, not the start menu), in license_en.txt.

Thanks for this hint. :thumbup:

[PFunk1606688187]

Biggest issue is how Youtube moved towards allowing open claims to be sufficient to shutdown content with the burden of proof being on the video owners. This is so laughably easy to abuse its not even funny. Total Biscuit did a video about issues like this when a crappy game developer had one of his videos removed because he said nasty things about their game.

 

The aggressive protections being created around the internet and so called intellectual property and copyrights will kill some or much of its innovative nature. I'd say competition would be great but unfortunately people are too lazy for that. Even if you could prove that youtube planned 9/11 people would still go there because of the volume and the popularity.

 

Anytime you put the burden of proof on the accused party you're clearly not interested in anything resembling the word "fair".

[const]

The post by Matt linked in the OP is a bit old. I refer you to the updated EULA, specifically 3.4 (Section 3 being "Licence Conditions"):

 

3.4 Video production by you using DCS products is allowed for Youtube advertisement revenue generation.

 

You can find this in the documents folder of your install (note: the install location on your drive, not the start menu), in license_en.txt.

 

Surely an explicit mention of youtube advertisement revenue in the DCS World EULA _must_ be sufficient for them? :P

(Though, knowing YouTube... who knows. I remember Scott Manley talking about how he had to fight with them to keep monetization on a video he made that was 100% original content (an asteroid detection animation he himself developed based on historical data, that some other people nabbed, redubbed, uploaded and then claimed was theirs...).)

 

We created special page with current EULA text: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/faq/licence/

[cichlidfan]

We created special page with current EULA text: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/faq/licence/

 

Well, if that doesn't work then the next step is a hand written, notarized document from the head of Eagle Dynamics, with full documentation and witnesses verifying that said writer is, indeed, the person they claim to be. :)

[SkateZilla]

Well, if that doesn't work then the next step is a hand written, notarized document from the head of Eagle Dynamics, with full documentation and witnesses verifying that said writer is, indeed, the person they claim to be. :)

 

and a Fingerprint with blood sample.

[Kaktus29]

i cancelled my YT account a month ago, forcing me to join gmail with youtube was the last drop.. i cancelled my gmail, youtube, skype )) i'm free baby.. haha.. switched to Yandex browser, Yandex mail, live perfectly well..

 

and youtube blocking DCS stuff.. yeah u don't have to be a genius to see why that is so..

[HiJack]

We created special page with current EULA text: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/faq/licence/

Great! Thanks :)

[EtherealN]

and youtube blocking DCS stuff.. yeah u don't have to be a genius to see why that is so..

 

And why would that be?

 

The fact that there was a legal ruling that said explicit permission is a requirement for such monetization not being an infringement? ;)

 

That ruling could be considered bonkers, perhaps, but it's not Google that makes the law. They argued against that, actually, from what I recall - they did not want the extra workload of having to police this stuff. They knew it was going to be a nightmare to get it handled consistently.

 

They never "blocked" DCS stuff. They needed proof of authorization for a video using DCS gameplay to be eligible for monetization. The same applies to all games, though most game developers (including ED, Bohemia, Mojang etc) has simply responded through putting such authorization into the EULAs or similar rather than having to handle requests individually.