Is a missile just..

[PLAGUEz]

An intelligent (very in some cases) rocket?

 

I'm into rocketry, and wondering can a mere civilian like me, ever come close to building some sort of very very cheap guided missile.

[galagamo]

From what I know and from my experience building a few ARF's I'd say, yes all the components one would need to build a rudimentary guided missile is currently available.

[VincentLaw]

You could turn a model rocket into crude IR missile with an arduino, some infrared photodiodes, and some steerable fins. All you have to do is write the tracking algorithm and rig it up. That should be doable with a $200 budget. (The price will scale with the size of the rocket if you want more range)

Edited May 1, 2014 by VincentLaw

[GGTharos]

Yes, it has already been done in the context of a cruise missile, not a rocket-powered one. But yes, you could create some sort of guided rocket-powered missile also.

 

Don't expect too much though.

 

An intelligent (very in some cases) rocket?

 

I'm into rocketry, and wondering can a mere civilian like me, ever come close to building some sort of very very cheap guided missile.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I'm into rocketry, and wondering can a mere civilian like me, ever come close to building some sort of very very cheap guided missile.

What do you need a guided missile for, for god sake? Fishing, hunting? What?

[Flagrum]

What do you need a guided missile for, for god sake? Fishing, hunting? What?

To know that he can do it. :o)

[sobek]

Never leave your house without your weaponized Anthrax ... for duck huntin'. ;)

[blackbelter]

An intelligent (very in some cases) rocket?

 

I'm into rocketry, and wondering can a mere civilian like me, ever come close to building some sort of very very cheap guided missile.

 

Big Brother probably has his eyes on you after you created this thread, you know... :(

Edited May 2, 2014 by blackbelter

[Flagrum]

Big Brother probably has his eyes on you after you created this thread, you know... :(

And if I post a recepie for making explosives (like blackpowder :o), then ...

 

... uhm, why is that black van with the darkened windows parking there? Just a second, BRB, the door bell ra

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

I sure hope that somebody is watching forums for threads like this one.

[OutOnTheOP]

I sure hope that somebody is watching forums for threads like this one.

 

The irony in that statement does not escape me. You do realize that the consistent derision you show regarding every aspect of social, political, and military conduct of your (alleged) nation of citizenship is a considerably larger counterintelligence indicator than a vague, idle curiosity-driven question about how much work goes into making a missile, right?

 

If people were exchanging plans, that'd be one thing, but you're just being ridiculous.

[NineLine]

An intelligent (very in some cases) rocket?

 

I'm into rocketry, and wondering can a mere civilian like me, ever come close to building some sort of very very cheap guided missile.

 

 

Certainly there has to be some basic way to take your hobby type rockets and guide them... would be nice as mine, when I was a kid, always ended up with my Dad having to knock on someones door to see if we could go on their roof to get it :)

[lunaticfringe]

Yes, it has already been done in the context of a cruise missile, not a rocket-powered one. But yes, you could create some sort of guided rocket-powered missile also.

 

Don't expect too much though.

 

You might want to curb that lack of expectation, given the nature of what MIT makes available for public consumption regarding the construction of Doppler radar on the cheap as an elective summer course, using MATLAB as the signal processor and a pair of coffee cans as the signal generator and antenna. One can derive their package into Python and run it on a Raspberry Pi, or embedded Windows on ARM in a compact, low weight package, and someone using a bit of math can single-side the detection affair as an active process splitting the wavelength timing and using a soup can as the emitter/antenna.

 

Spend a little more money, and you can start talking decent performance. Not going to kill an ASPJ/TEWS/ALQ-defended target, but we're discussing proof of concept.

 

And Hajduk- did you stop reading recipe forums after two guys from Chechnya used a couple of pressure cookers to kill three and maim over two hundred? Sure you did. I bet you called for Walmart to require registration on cookery.

[winz]

What do you need a guided missile for, for god sake? Fishing, hunting? What?

Those Amazon drones are coming...You gotta be prepared...:D

[cichlidfan]

Certainly there has to be some basic way to take your hobby type rockets and guide them... would be nice as mine, when I was a kid, always ended up with my Dad having to knock on someones door to see if we could go on their roof to get it :)

 

It's worse when you grow up in an apartment complex. :D

[lunaticfringe]

Any of you guys ever have that particular Estes kit with the three pieces for each guidance fin- "fin, dowel, fin"? I can't remember the name of the model.

 

I do, however, remember that in the early version of the instructions it showed you could put in a small angle onto the outermost fin piece to cause it to spin when launched. All you had to do was build it equally. Did it with a jig, at half the maximum value.

 

And what I really remember was that damned thing coming off the launch rail, cranking 90 degrees to the horizon, and making a bee-line for my old man, who jumped out of the way like it was incoming fire from his time in country (didn't miss a beat).

 

Homer Hickam and the blockhouse boys, we were not.

[cichlidfan]

And what I really remember was that damned thing coming off the launch rail, cranking 90 degrees to the horizon, and making a bee-line for my old man, who jumped out of the way like it was incoming fire from his time in country (didn't miss a beat).

 

Homer Hickam and the blockhouse boys, we were not.

 

My first rocket was a scratch build and it flew exactly like that. :lol:

 

EDIT: My father was, wisely, safe indoors.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

And Hajduk- did you stop reading recipe forums after two guys from Chechnya used a couple of pressure cookers to kill three and maim over two hundred? Sure you did. I bet you called for Walmart to require registration on cookery.

The question on this thread was about a guided missile, not a bout the crude home made bomb. Guided missile guides or homes on something, right? I guess, your job has noting to do with frequently flying around the country, does it? Well, I do fly, as a passenger, very often. And I don't really like people talking about building home made guiding missiles.

[NineLine]

The question on this thread was about a guided missile, not a bout the crude home made bomb. Guided missile guides or homes on something, right? I guess, your job has noting to do with frequently flying around the country, does it? Well, I do fly, as a passenger, very often. And I don't really like people talking about building home made guiding missiles.

 

Hobby rockets were very popular when I was growing up, least in my world. Adding guidance to them as part of that hobby doesnt seem like something to get you on the no fly list, no more so than talking about learning how to be come proficient in simulated arial combat, which I assume you do a lot here?

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

Hobby rockets were very popular when I was growing up, least in my world. Adding guidance to them as part of that hobby doesnt seem like something to get you on the no fly list, no more so than talking about learning how to be come proficient in simulated arial combat, which I assume you do a lot here?

Are you saying that it is all right to build "guided" rockets in the USA? Guided on what? What kind of guidance are you talking about, IR, radar? What is the target?

 

Stabilization is different then guidance, right? I am OK for these hobby guys to build a stabilization systems to make this rockets to fly straight up. But, guidance is something else. Guidance has a target that it goes after.

 

Have you seen how powerful are some of the "hobby rockets" nowadays?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/rockets/4315103

 

I don't even think that it is legal for hobbyists or private individuals to build guided missiles or rockets in the USA.

[NineLine]

Yes, can you call remote control airplanes and helicopters drones and they sound scarier... you are blowing it out of proportion... no one is talking about making a home made intercontinental ballistic missile... the worse the OP will do is put someones eye out ;)

 

And they sell rocket kits in the stores.... so again... you are blowing things out of proportion... but if you are worried about your flight status, you best stop posting in this thread before the men in black suits show up....

 

http://www.amazon.ca/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=model+rocket+kit&tag=googcana-20&index=aps&hvadid=35333025586&hvpos=1t2&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11098364877843417671&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_3l1abqqgjy_b

[Flagrum]

Potentially more dangerous than curde home made "guided" rockets are probably drones. Those "toys" that you can steer with your iphone or even by flying it with first person view using occulus rift or similar devices. If you want to actually hit something from afar, those are probably much "better suited" than these all so condemnable self-made guidance systems...

[SkateZilla]

Those Amazon drones are coming...You gotta be prepared...:D

 

I think i saw an article that said Amazon, UPS and other Logistics Shipping Companies were NOT allowed to use the drones.

 

Regardless, i can throw a frisbee at them and take them down.

[lunaticfringe]

The question on this thread was about a guided missile, not a bout the crude home made bomb.

 

The question was conceptual. You decided to turn it into an NSA/FBI witch hunt.

 

Guided missile guides or homes on something, right? I guess, your job has noting to do with frequently flying around the country, does it? Well, I do fly, as a passenger, very often.

 

You'd be quite wrong concerning the volume of my air trave. Meanwhile, a guided missile can hit all sorts of targets, moving at high rates of speed, low rates of speed, or even immobile. Some can even engage all three, depending on the nature of the sensor and design. So you might as well be scared while packing your suitcase, on the drive out to the airport, and sitting at the boarding gate, as opposed to only while airborne.

 

And I don't really like people talking about building home made guiding missiles.

 

Then exit the thread and let adults discuss conceptual theory.

[cichlidfan]

Wow!

 

:huh: