Do have one idea of the weight of these cargos ?

[Skulleader]

Hello guys ;)

 

In first I would like to thanks Upuaut concerning few cargos, he helped me to use these loads :thumbup:

 

I would like to know if it's possible to have the weight of the real cargos, I've found few data but I'm not sure if these informations are good... :helpsmilie:

 

ammo_cargo : ???

bambi_bucket : 1323 Lbs

barrels_cargo : 952 Lbs

f_bar_cargo : 3500 Lbs

jeep_cargo : 2743 Lbs

rsp_esd-20 : ???

 

 

f_bar_cargo : http://www.bcsiteservice.com/product/concrete-traffic-control-barrier-32-x-8-ft/

 

bambi_bucket : http://www.sei-ind.com/products/bambi-bucket-standard

 

Do you think that these weight are good ?

 

Here the screenshots of these cargos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A great thanks in advance for your assistance, Skull.

[Naviss]

Sorry that I'm no help, but just wanted to say I'm very excited to see new cargo loads!!! These look wonderful.

[Focha]

Hello,

 

For the Bambi Bucket and Jeep Willys.

 

Bambi Bucket depends on the size.

http://www.sei-ind.com/sites/default/files/pdf/Bambi-Bucket-Operations-Manual.pdf

 

You have there all the specifications regarding size/volume, etc.

Some operators restrict the water they can load up.

 

For the Jeep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willys_MB

 

For the concrete block, assume:

Simple Concrete:

-Without Armor - 24 kN/m3 (2400 kg/m3)

- With Armor - 25 kN/m3 (2500 kg/m3)

 

Then if you know the volume you can know the weight, at least is the best estimate.

 

For the Shell fuel depots, try to contact them and ask. They tend to be normalized/certified, do they must have some kind of tables.

 

For the ammo boxes and the other vehicle object (GPU?) I don't know.

 

Hope it helps.

 

Regards.

 

EDIT: Sorry I thought you were asking for all the weights. You can make an estimate about the weight. Size you know the size and weight of a single 5.56 round and HEAT warhead, you can probably estimate good.

Edited May 2, 2014 by Focha

[dahui]

The Bambibucket is too light ;)

 

Ours on the lama have 850l so with the around 50kg of itself its around 900kg -> ~ 2000Pounds...

 

i think with the huey you can go ub to 3000 - 3500pounds. or more, when you know how to handle a heavy sling load on the max. of the helo.

 

Take a look on the compatibilty Chart on the SEI Homepage

Edited May 2, 2014 by dahui

[Ramsay]

Two barrels and clamps weigh:

2 x (412 + 13) lb = 2 x 425 lb = 850 lb

plus the additional weight of any chains, shackels, etc.

 

So barrels_cargo : 952 Lbs is a reasonable estimate.

 

 

A barrel holds approx

205 ltr = 44 imperial gallons = 55 us gallons

 

A closed empty barrel weighs approx 17 kg

Density of Diesel Fuels 0.82 - 1.08 kg/l at 15.6 C

Automotive gear oils .88-.94 kg/l

Beer 1.01 kg/l

You can work out other liquids using their Specific Gravity (water = 1 kg/l).

 

IRL Diesel Example

rocoil.com packaging.xls

 

1 litre = 0.83 kg

 

205 litre drum

quanity (weight of diesel) per 205 litre drum 170.15 kg = 375 lb

* weight inc packageing 187 kg = 412 lb

 

standard drum weight is approx 17 kg

 

pallet of 4 inc pallet weighs 773 kg

80 drums per 20' container inc pallets weigh 15460 kg

 

IRL Weight of Crane/Forklift Lifting Equipment (not air certified)

 

www. tractel.com Drum clamps - Tractel.pdf

 

* semi-automatic lifting clamp weighs 6 kg = 13 lb

chain sling for barrels 3.5 kg = 8 lb

 

This is terrestrial lifting equipment.

 

Equivalent military/aviation equipment will most likely be more robust/heavier - so these weights should be considered minimums.

 

Edited May 3, 2014 by Ramsay

[Skulleader]

Hello guys,

 

I would like to thanks you for your informations and your details, I think that it's very important for the realism of our Huey.

 

Bye, Skull.

[ebabil]

where can i download these cargos?

[Skulleader]

where can i download these cargos?

 

Hello Ebabil,

 

In fact you already these cargos in your DCSW...

Here the path where you can found it all these objects: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\Terrain\Structures\High\EDM

 

 

I don't know if you know the ModelViewer.exe but it's very important for watch all the 3D models of DCS.

You can found this software here: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin

But you cannot launch it because you must created one exe.bat like that:

 

Just start with making a .txt file in the directory DCS World, (ex model.txt) then add bin\ModelViewer.exe inside the .txt file.

Then you rename the .txt file to .bat file

(since the ModelViewer.exe can't run on it's own it seems, so it have to be started with a .bat file)

 

This method is available with a lot of kindly by Offlinepilot and you can read this explanation from this topic here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114862&page=12 at the page #118.

 

Also you can found other objects 3D like aircrafts, copters, vehicles, and other 3D models here: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\World\Shapes

 

So if you meet any problem you can contact me to this topic, bye.

 

Skull.

 

 

I hope that my explanations can help you, best regards. Skull

Edited May 4, 2014 by Skulleader

[dahui]

where can i download these cargos?

 

Hello Ebabil,

 

In fact you already these cargos in your DCSW...

Here the path where you can found it all these objects: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\Terrain\Structures\High\EDM

 

 

I don't know if you know the ModelViewer.exe but it's very important for watch all the 3D models of DCS.

You can found this software here: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin

But you cannot launch it because you must created one exe.bat like that:

 

 

 

This method is available with a lot of kindly by Offlinepilot and you can read this explanation from this topic here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114862&page=12 at the page #118.

 

Also you can found other objects 3D like aircrafts, copters, vehicles, and other 3D models here: C:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\World\Shapes

 

So if you meet any problem you can contact me to this topic, bye.

 

Skull.

 

 

I hope that my explanations can help you, best regards. Skull

 

And how do i use these Cargos in the Game itself?

 

Thanks Buddy!

[Skulleader]

And how do i use these Cargos in the Game itself?

Hello Dahui,

 

You can found few screenshots here, Upuaut is the author: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104980&page=11 POST #109

 

Here the Mod of Upuaut to download: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104980&page=12 POST #116

 

Mod of Upuaut: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn1woyms9ydx28s/UH1_Cargo.rar

 

You download the Mod of Upuaut after you unzip this file.zip and now you can found 2 folders:

Bazar

&

Scripts

 

You open BAZAR folder and you drag and drop all the files in the good folders of your DCW.

 

After you open SCRIPTS folder and you edit with NotePad++:

db_precountries.lua

&

db_units_ground.lua

 

**********************************************************

 

Exemple with db_precountries.lua:

 

local default_Cargos = {}

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "Cargo1");

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "ammo_cargo");

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "jeep_cargo");

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "bambi_bucket");

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "barrels_cargo");

cnt_unit(default_Cargos, "f_bar_cargo");

 

 

Exemple with db_units_ground.lua:

 

cargo( "Cargo1", _("Cargo1"), "ab-212_cargo", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 );

cargo( "ammo_cargo", _("ammo_cargo"), "ammo_cargo", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 );

cargo( "jeep_cargo", _("jeep_cargo"), "jeep_cargo", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 );

cargo( "bambi_bucket", _("bambi_bucket"), "bambi_bucket", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 );

cargo( "barrels_cargo", _("barrels_cargo"), "barrels_cargo", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 );

cargo( "f_bar_cargo", _("f_bar_cargo"), "f_bar_cargo", 100, 1000, {wsType_Static}, 100, 10000 ); --f_bar_cargo

 

Now I hope that my explanations are clear, if you meet any problems contact us here...

 

Bye, Skull.

[upuaut]

where can i download these cargos?

 

Hi,

 

here you can download the cargo file.

 

Use JSGME for installation.

[wolf5]

It depend of the munition type tha you want to use but i found this

 

http://www.army-military.com/ew/1a3e6b8a-2ad6-4b0d-accc-ab5e957bc2fe-fr

[ebabil]

Hi,

 

here you can download the cargo file.

 

Use JSGME for installation.

 

Thanks man

[DSPALLASVI]

Originally Posted by upuaut

Hi,

 

here you can download the cargo file.

 

Use JSGME for installation.

Is that site trustworthy regarding downloading the "UH1_Cargo.rar" file??

They ask me for credit card info, just to download for "free"?

Anyone have experience with this site?

[jimcarrel]

You must have clicked the right side download, it's premium (fast) download and requires you to pay and be a premium member.

 

The download on left side is free and is slow, has a wait time and will ask for you to answer a captcha question.

 

(my best guess)

[DSPALLASVI]

Thanks... downloading file now... Thanks for youyr help 'jimcarrel'...

[VIMANAMAN]

Thanks for uploading the cargo File upuaut! Nice one - an excellent addition to UH-1 ops.

 

Thanks also Skull, for your Skins (and the OP), Nice work!

[DSPALLASVI]

Downloaded cargo file OK. Used JSGME for installation.

But am still seeing only a net as sling load cargo in the missions that support sling loads.. don't see generator, or pallet with wood, or fuel tank etc.

Am I missing something here or doing something wrong in JSGME? (there isn't that much to do in it, I thought) :music_whistling:

[VIMANAMAN]

Should work fine - is there anything else in the folder UH1_cargo? It should just be 2 folders -Bazar & Scripts - (move the folder to 'available' and right click to 'explore'). If there's a readme or similar that might prevent it from working.

 

If so save a copy, lose the RM - then should work - for Ammo / Bambi / F_bar / Jeep (no Generator).

[DSPALLASVI]

Thanks for the info VIMANAMAN, but unfortunately it did not help, sorry.

The 'UH_1' folder contains two sub folders, 'Bazar' & 'Script'. No other files are located in the 'UH_1' folder.

Turned 'off' all other mods in 'JSGME', only 'run' 'UH_1' mod, but still only see the cargo net in any of the missions that support sling loads.

Have attached pics of the missions that are in DCS, maybe that could help?

In all missions, when using 'F6 - all cargo', only the weights show up... no matter what I choose, it's always a sling-load net when looking outside the helicopter...

[VIMANAMAN]

Hi DSPALLASVI,

 

I think it might just be because your using missions that aren't designed to include these new cargos...

 

To test just go into the Mission editor and just create a new 'mission' (file) - save it as anything - select static objects (from the icon menu on the left - it's about three quarters of the way down) - select cargos - and hopefully you'll see the other cargo objects listed.

 

If they're there - which it sounds like they should be - then you could open the missions you want to actually run, in the mission editor, and change the cargos as required, save and away you go.

 

EDIT - changing an existing mission MAY break some the mission designers triggers - so save a 'virgin' copy first (obviously - sorry dunno how much you know already about DCS :) )

 

Hope fully this is the issue...

Edited May 18, 2014 by VIMANAMAN

[DSPALLASVI]

Hi VIMANAMAN,

Thanks for the info. Have not much experience with DCS but will try to work it out. Will do as you mentioned and create a new mission (after copying the old one ;-) and see if the new cargo is there and I can select it too.

Appreciate your support. :thumbup:

[Lizzard]

Not sure but I guess you copied the Mod in the wrong directory..you put the Cargo Mod in the "Mods" Directory..but it is supposed to be copied directly into the DCS World root Folder. JSGME is strongly recommended!:)

[DSPALLASVI]

Just tried making a new mission as VIMANAMAN suggested, and cargo does show up there too now. Checked existing missions and was able to change cargo-nets in those too into 'drums', 'bambie bucket' or jeep'.

 

Of course, having no previous experience with 'Mission Editor' creating new missions, now I have created a new mission and all I see is the new cargo items sitting pretty on the ramp; except there's no Huey to actually fly in and try to move said cargo around... go figure :doh:

Guess I've got a long way to go to create any mission... even a basic one by the looks of it :D

Have even more admiration now for the members who create missions and campaigns!!!!!!!!!!

 

@Lizzard; thanks for the suggestion, but the 'UH_1 Cargo' mod is copied into the 'Mod' directory and have used JSGME to implement it...

The cargo does show up, in a new created mission that is... or, after a modification, in an existing mission too now... thanks.