Building/Cities in DCS World

[phant]

 

 

Do you think is possible for current DCS engine or new EDGE (in terms of computational power / FPS) to have an entire city/cities with the level of details as the above image?

 

I mean not only a new textures buildings but a complete 3D-explorable-building like ARMA FPS.

 

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Phant

[cichlidfan]

If the city were the entire map, and you were not trying to have a flight sim at the same time, maybe.

[CypherGrunyev]

I don't think it's too far out of reach to have a city that's actually believable, but the LOD that model contains for DCS would be difficult... Maybe if it diminished by LOD so you have to be RIGHT on it to get that level, it could happen, but even then, it's a lot of loading times for flying through a town low-level like.

[Chernaren Refugee]

I think if your computer can run Arma 3 at a decent fps, it could do that. Arma 3 is FAR harder on my computer than DCS. That building looks less than or near the same as Arma 2 quality.

[aaron886]

No.

[Zakatak]

Please no, this is a flight simulator, not an infantry simulator or the Sims. ED has vastly more important duties to focus on.

[Silver_Dragon]

A rotund yes. Remember, Wags worlds. that is a "All type simulator", no only a "Flight Simulator" that level of building is appreciate into DCS: W with the coming "pilot-able" vehicles in the future. The current engine and EDGE accept that level of building modelling.

[Chernaren Refugee]

Its DCS "World", not DCS Flight Simulator. If they keep it just flight sim for much longer, they'll probably go broke. Players these days are looking for ARMA. And with BIS screwing up on the newest one, its DCS perfect chance to lure some of those players over here, especially the old hardcore modders. Look at some of the Arma Steam posts, DCS has been mentioned a number of times as a great candidate for an Arma replacement.

 

No ones saying lower the sim level, I LOVE their flight sim. I'd love to see it in vehicles and infantry as well. What were saying is, you need to start making everything else too. And third parties can do that. Even modders, if you put out some good modding tools.

 

I know that people that fly jets only, probably don't care whats beneath them. But I'm mostly a heli and A-10 pilot. So yeah, I'm looking for realistic terrain, buildings, and ground troops. If you jet jockeys don't want that, just stick with the original map and you'll have all the FPS for just the sky.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Chernaren Refugee

[Exorcet]

If this does happen it might be down to careful map selection. EDGE is giving us a nice upgrade, but we're still not sure exactly what its limits will be. I remember Wags talking about map size (GB), and we're all familiar with the timespan Nevada has taken.

 

If EDGE will allow FPS quality buildings, then making a decent map for infantry shouldn't be difficult, but options might be limited. Pacific island hopping maps seem like the obvious choice. Water is cheap. You can have thousands of square miles of it which the aircraft need without sacrificing land detail since there would be so little land.

 

Something like an infantry friendly Black Sea map would be different, but still not really impossible. You'd probably be limited to having a city or two at the necessary amount of detail for troops with the rest of it geared toward flight sims.

[Pikey]

No one knows yet, I suspect even the devs building edge haven't had time to play and test the scaling past LAX from Nevada. However there is no real reason why not if a lot of time was spent on the LODs. And it will be a lot.

[joey45]

That building is probably no more then 200 polys.

[NineLine]

No.

 

 

We dont know what EDGE is capable of yet with the new maps... I wouldnt rule it out, maybe not exactly that detail but I would hope the details for ground forces would be much much better than the current map which wasnt really designed for much more than dropping bombs on :)

 

As has also been said, the time to develop a large map with that kind of detail would be quite the undertaking as well... might be a long time to create and test...

Edited June 6, 2014 by NineLine

[karambiatos]

Something like an infantry friendly Black Sea map would be different, but still not really impossible. You'd probably be limited to having a city or two at the necessary amount of detail for troops with the rest of it geared toward flight sims.

Pretty much, just a small square would be highly detailed while the rest wouldnt really be detailed, and you can do other game magic, like turning off certain objects in planes, or having much lower poly buildings, and so on.

 

But dedicated servers would need to happen first.

[Chernaren Refugee]

If this does happen it might be down to careful map selection. EDGE is giving us a nice upgrade, but we're still not sure exactly what its limits will be. I remember Wags talking about map size (GB), and we're all familiar with the timespan Nevada has taken.

 

If EDGE will allow FPS quality buildings, then making a decent map for infantry shouldn't be difficult, but options might be limited. Pacific island hopping maps seem like the obvious choice. Water is cheap. You can have thousands of square miles of it which the aircraft need without sacrificing land detail since there would be so little land.

 

Something like an infantry friendly Black Sea map would be different, but still not really impossible. You'd probably be limited to having a city or two at the necessary amount of detail for troops with the rest of it geared toward flight sims.

 

Exactly. Pretty much what I've said in the past on these forums.

[Chernaren Refugee]

We dont know what EDGE is capable of yet with the new maps... I wouldnt rule it out, maybe not exactly that detail but I would hope the details for ground forces would be much much better than the current map which wasnt really designed for much more than dropping bombs on :)

 

As has also been said, the time to develop a large map with that kind of detail would be quite the undertaking as well... might be a long time to create and test...

 

For FPS, we really don't need that big a place to play in. Look at the old mods of UT1 and Quake 3 that we used to play in. They were tiny, but fun. And sometimes, you really needed transport in, or backup from heli's and APC's. I'm not really talking cities. Small bases would be enough. And you could have those in the middle of nowhere. Look at Crysis 1's Mesa for instance. There's really not that much detail there (except for terrain ) and its kind of small, yet its a sizeable map for FPS play and even somewhat decent for vehicles. You could stick that out in the middle of a wasteland, and the sim pilots could fly as far and wide as they wanted to. That place just stuck somewhere out on the Black Sea map plains would be a good test start. We could even have tiny maps, like Infiltration's Chemical Threat, where you fast rope off of a Black Hawk, to take out a warehouse thats a terrorist base out in the middle of a forest like terrain. Some people could play helicopter pilots, and after dropping off the troops, try to support with machine guns and rockets. Of course, the defenders might have RPGs! Or even an old Shilka. :)

Edited June 6, 2014 by Chernaren Refugee