bigbirddk Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Hey guys, I have looked at the website, but I cannot really find a good answer. DCS: A-10C Warthog = The separate simulator A-10A for DCS World = An add-on to the Free DCS world. The add-on = 9.99$ The separate simulator = 39.99$ I would assume this is the separate simulator. If I go for the 9.99$, what will i be missing compared to the 39.99$ ? I like the idea of going for the DCS world, and then buy multiple modules and expand along the way. But due to the price, I must be assuming that it is not as complete as the separate version ?
GeorgeLKMT Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 They're both modules (addons, if you want) that plug into DCS World. Difference is that A-10A has simplified systems with no clickable cockpit and only keyboard commands while A-10C is full blown click-everything hardcore sim. Also, two airplanes are different in a lot of things. A = old model, steam gauges, somewhat simple. C = new model, multifunctional displays, targeting pod, laser guided stuff and much more. ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■
Viersbovsky Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 DCS world is free to play and comes with the free SU-25T and the Mustang training version. The A-10A is an older version of the Warthog with older systems and less electronics. The A-10C is the newer version with electronics advanced electronics suites. BUT the major difference is the detail level: The A-10C features a fully click-able cockpit. Almost every button does what it does in the real thing. You can click through the menus of the on-board computer, change settings for the bombs and missiles (launch mode, lase time, chute open altitude etc etc etc). It is highly complex simulation that is as real as it gets. The A-10A is a model is on par with the free SU-25T: You get a 6dof cockpit, simplified flight model and no click-able cockpit. Most everything is simplified and the controls fit on most joysticks. So, if you are unsure just install DCS world and fly the su-25t free of charge, the A-10A is on the same level. If you want to see what the A-10C is like, there are numerous videos on youtube. Also, the A-10A is included in the flaming cliffs3 module, where you get the su27, su-25 and f-15 as well. Callsign "Lion"
Corvus Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A- 10C and A-10A are both modules for DCS World. The difference is that A-10C module has clickable cockpit with advanced system modeling, while A- 10A has standard system modeling (simplified) and non- clickable cockpit. So if you want to try something „as real as it gets" go for A-10C (manual is around 600 pages). If you want somethig a bit easier to start with go for A-10A. My YT channel https://www.youtube.com/user/corvuscorp81
bigbirddk Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 Okay. Makes sense. I really "need" the clickable cockpit. So I can by the A-10C, and use it as a clickable simulator, and then later on add it to the DCS world when i want to expand my "world" ? So If I buy the A-10C, I can add it directly to DCS world, and still have a full simulator ? Or will that be converted to the "lesser" A-10A in DCS world ?
tommytank Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Okay. Makes sense. I really "need" the clickable cockpit. So I can by the A-10C, and use it as a clickable simulator, and then later on add it to the DCS world when i want to expand my "world" ? So If I buy the A-10C, I can add it directly to DCS world, and still have a full simulator ? Or will that be converted to the "lesser" A-10A in DCS world ? You need DCS world for either; it is free and comes with the SU25T and Mustang included as Viersbovsky says.
Flagrum Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Okay. Makes sense. I really "need" the clickable cockpit. So I can by the A-10C, and use it as a clickable simulator, and then later on add it to the DCS world when i want to expand my "world" ? So If I buy the A-10C, I can add it directly to DCS world, and still have a full simulator ? Or will that be converted to the "lesser" A-10A in DCS world ? You need DCS World in either case - it is the base program for all modules, including those of the A-10A and A-10C. There were stand-alone versions of the A-10C module, but that is an old, outdated version which isn't maintained by ED anymore. So you install DCS World and get the "World" plus the Su-25T and the TF-51D. Then you can install the A-10C module or any other module into the same DCS World and thus giving you more aircraft that you can fly in the same environment.
Maverick-X Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Okay. Makes sense. I really "need" the clickable cockpit. So I can by the A-10C, and use it as a clickable simulator, and then later on add it to the DCS world when i want to expand my "world" ? So If I buy the A-10C, I can add it directly to DCS world, and still have a full simulator ? Or will that be converted to the "lesser" A-10A in DCS world ? The A-10A and A-10C are two completely different, independed modules. It depends on the mission designer which aircraft are playable in a mission. The A-10C is a spread widely. But you have to know that the C comes with a thick manual and multiple hours to get into! Learning the A is somewhat difficult as well, as you have to get into all the key combos you need to do certain things. The C has a clickable cockpit, so you don't have to remember that many keys, but the systems are far more complex! I'd still recommend getting the A-10C! (given you are willing to put in some hours to get into!) My alltime favorite Edited October 10, 2014 by Maverick-X
Archer7 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A-10C is some years older than DCS World and can be played with or without DCS World but you will want to play it using DCS World because DCS World is still being updated while the stand-alone simulator is not. A-10C has a highest quality aerodynamics model and a highest quality aircraft model with nearly all systems modelled and you can interact with all 400+ switches in the cockpit. A-10A can only be played in DCS World. A-10A only has a medium quality aerodynamics model and a medium quality aircraft model with only essential avionics and you can’t click on anything in the cockpit: only use the keyboard to click some switches. The A-10C is probably the most advanced flight simulator ever while you shouldn't really buy A-10A separately of the nice bundle it is included in along with 7 other aircraft or so.
cichlidfan Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 A-10A can only be played in DCS World. Incorrect. The A-10A can also be played without DCS World by installing Flaming Cliffs 2. (Using the same logic that allows you to play A-10C by installing an outdated version). ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Maverick-X Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 but as you said: flaming cliffs 2... the A10-A you can buy and is subject in this topic is part of FC3, which does not work standalone as far as i know. But why don't we stick to the topic... It does not matter if there is a possibility of standalone use. You can fly singleplayer with DCS-World aswell as Multiplayer. No need to be concerned. If you are looking to get a real simulator (and not a game) get the A-10C
unknown_ID Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Who cares if you can use a module as standalone? Get DCS World, get the module you want and have fun. But... if you consider getting A-10A to start with, think about getting Flaming Cliffs 3. There you have some more Aircrafts to fly and get used to DCS World. Imo, its the best set to start with DCS World.
kontiuka Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Who cares if you can use a module as standalone? Get DCS World, get the module you want and have fun. But... if you consider getting A-10A to start with, think about getting Flaming Cliffs 3. There you have some more Aircrafts to fly and get used to DCS World. Imo, its the best set to start with DCS World.+1 Nice to have a bit of variety even if they aren't hard core modules.
bigbirddk Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 Thanks for ALL the replies. I'm overwhelmed by the numbers of replies. I have stumbled on a video of the A-10C is that is exactly what I wont :) A flight sim in one of my favorite plane that is not just a few switches and the off. But a plane that takes minutes to start, but takes hours / days in learning the sequeze, and then even longer to program and fly :) THANKS again :) And then i might get the A-10A for some quick playing :)
bigbirddk Posted October 10, 2014 Author Posted October 10, 2014 Last question... Buying it directly or using Steam, is there a different later on ? I would prefer Steam, as it can keep track of my licenses from me after a reisntallatin..
SilentGun Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Last question... Buying it directly or using Steam, is there a different later on ? I would prefer Steam, as it can keep track of my licenses from me after a reisntallatin.. I would recommend downloading it from DCS website as there are much more deals but that's just me. Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:)
QuiGon Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 When you buy it in Steam you can use the key for the seperate version as well. The opposite isn't possible (it was possible for a while though). Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
escaner Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Thanks for ALL the replies. I'm overwhelmed by the numbers of replies. I have stumbled on a video of the A-10C is that is exactly what I wont :) A flight sim in one of my favorite plane that is not just a few switches and the off. But a plane that takes minutes to start, but takes hours / days in learning the sequeze, and then even longer to program and fly :) THANKS again :) And then i might get the A-10A for some quick playing :) If you get the A-10C I don't think that you will be playing the A-10A, which will feel unrealistic. Anyway, if you want quick playing, the A-10C can hot start on the runway or even in flight (e.g. the instant action missions). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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