Take Off in the Bf 109K-4

[iFoxRomeo]

Well it is obvious that we will need this thread.

 

I learned a lot from the Dora. So my very first take off and landing attempt after a ramp start looks like this:

 

Fox

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

:)

[saurer]

You should switch the prop to auto before start

[FoReIgNeR]

Wow, that torque effect due the prop ceasing is amazing! Take-off: douze points, deadstick landing needs some work though

[ophiuchus]

:D I managed to fly a bit longer before my engie died, however, I failed to extend the langing gear, and unfortunatelly crashed during belly landing.

[leafer]

What happened?

[gavagai]

Not available for download at the e-shop. Help!

[xaoslaad]

Download it via the Module Manager in the game if you have the Open Beta version installed.

[gavagai]

Download it via the Module Manager in the game if you have the Open Beta version installed.

 

Ewww, I have the open beta of DCS installed, but I would prefer to just use my normal install. This is not how it worked for the 190. Thanks though, will check that now.

[xaoslaad]

Landing parameters seem to be similar to the FW190. come over the runway about 210 with landing gear down and full flaps. Watch the VVI and try to keep touchdown at < 1m/s to avoid bouncing (which seems much less pronounced than the FW190, so that's a plus) Gentle flare for gentle 3 point touchdown. Challenging but not impossible by any means. I have been landing both tonight without doing (entirely) horrible things to them. Nice change for me.

Edited December 2, 2014 by xaoslaad

[xaoslaad]

Ewww, I have the open beta of DCS installed, but I would prefer to just use my normal install. This is not how it worked for the 190. Thanks though, will check that now.

 

Patience. Most updates go through the Open Beta to make sure there are no glaring errors before being 'released'. Maybe tomorrow (3rd, as it was suggested) it will hit the release version (the Bf-109 I expect will be beta for some time though).

[Strix]

MOVED to LANDING!!

Edited December 4, 2014 by Strix
Wrong tread!

[Eldur]

Better take off than mine *, but also nice over-rev :)

 

Less power or turn the prop down to 11:30 before taking off, or just kick in automatic (S key by default)

 

* 1st one: Nice crash, 2nd one + 1st landing is here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2247320&postcount=8

 

But well, still have to get used to my new MFG Crosswind pedals, didn't have toe brakes on my trusty Simpeds - it's such a tremendous impact on DCS WWII and Il-2 BoS ground/take off/landing handling :)

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

uploading my very first take off now...oh a ugly landing is included as well as i thought my engine is dying on me every second because of the fuel pressure going to 0....

 

Edited December 3, 2014 by 9./JG27 DavidRed

[Random]

First module I've struggled with on takeoff!

[iFoxRomeo]

You should switch the prop to auto before start

Didn't know there is a auto prop switch.

What happened?

Overrev because of deactivated auto prop.

Better take off than mine *, but also nice over-rev :)

 

Less power or turn the prop down to 11:30 before taking off, or just kick in automatic ...

 

That video was for everyones entertainment. Very first take off. I didn't read the manual. That's why I didn't ask for the reason of the engine failure. I generally don't ask question for things that are explained by the manual. After setting the controls I wanted to get airborne as quickly as possible.

 

Fox

[Yo-Yo]

Just few cents: the best IAS before flaring is 180 kph, and the landing is simple if the flaring altitude is right and you do not overpull the stick causing balooning.

Takeoff.. as for me it's very simple, but I am glad that somebody has trouble with it, otherwise I will be blamed for ruining the legend about deadly 109. :)

 

Idling the engine and then starting to dive with full throttle will be deadly for the engine due to overrevving it. Remember that the propeller pitch can not be changed as fast as for hydraulically driven props.

[9.JG27 DavidRed]

love the take offs and landings in that plane!very well done sir Yo-Yo.

 

i have to say, although takeoffs are really simple i think in the 109, if you are not paying attention it will bite you...as seen above, my very first take off, although not really solid, didnt cause me any trouble...

 

then when thinking that its easy peasy, i didnt pay attention on my second take off, and immediately turned left off the runway...i managed it to get her up in the air, but then immediately left wing stalled and crashed :).

[DB 605]

Just few cents:

Takeoff.. as for me it's very simple, but I am glad that somebody has trouble with it, otherwise I will be blamed for ruining the legend about deadly 109. :)

 

Idling the engine and then starting to dive with full throttle will be deadly for the engine due to overrevving it. Remember that the propeller pitch can not be changed as fast as for hydraulically driven props.

 

Take Off feels exactly right for me : if you do everything correctly, theres no problems, if not you are screwed in a heartbeat. Great Job!

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

I still think elevator / pitch trim need fine tuning ( Yo-Yo... ) The k4 "catapults" from ground at takeoff, even if instead of setting the stabilator at "1" as suggested, I set it at "2" - full nose heavy.

 

Until I pick good speed, my nose want's to come up and I am forced to use forward stick.

 

Landing seems very good though, and at landing configuration and power I get plausible pitch and required trim.

 

I find the overall feel of flight very good, with a docile cruise equilibrium - properly trimmed for cruise for sure.

 

I just don't like having my wings ripped off all of a sudden just as I pull it a little bit over the fence...

[DB 605]

 

I just don't like having my wings ripped off all of a sudden just as I pull it a little bit over the fence...

 

Agreed, hopefully devs pay some attention to this.

[Random]

Agree on the wings breaking. All modules need some attention here... I'd love to see things getting bent out of shape permamently as you exceed the G limits before ripping off entirely if you continue to pull harder etc.

 

Tonight I plan to get my takeoffs sorted.

[Yo-Yo]

I still think elevator / pitch trim need fine tuning ( Yo-Yo... ) The k4 "catapults" from ground at takeoff, even if instead of setting the stabilator at "1" as suggested, I set it at "2" - full nose heavy.

 

Until I pick good speed, my nose want's to come up and I am forced to use forward stick.

 

Landing seems very good though, and at landing configuration and power I get plausible pitch and required trim.

 

I find the overall feel of flight very good, with a docile cruise equilibrium - properly trimmed for cruise for sure.

 

I just don't like having my wings ripped off all of a sudden just as I pull it a little bit over the fence...

 

The problem is that the real trim was exactly the same we have now regarding the elevator position. In the powered flight the plane was neutral and trim position was stick forward within the whole IAS range. For gliding, especially with empty tank, stick aft was only at low speed.

The same is for the stick forses - pull, pull and pull. Even with full nose-heavy stab position - slightly pull at full tank aft balance condition.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Yo-Yo

[Eight Ball]

I need some training too :)

 

[Gascan39]

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