VKB Gladiator WWII joystick

[Sokol1_br]

"Kosmosima" grip?

 

[Kailorn]

Thanks Sokol

 

Looks nice, but I wat a diferent point of view and see how many hats and inputs there...

[dburne]

I wonder if the Gunfighter Pro with the extension will also handle the Warthog adapter and grip...

[SinusoidDelta]

After talking to VKB HQ, they said that the new and improved Gunfighter gimbal will not fit in either the Mamba MkIII, nor the Gladiator Pro's housing... so that's not going to happen.

 

About the feeling - I double-sprung my extended Mamba with TM Warthog grip, and that works really well. Right amount of resistance, and not light at all. It was far lighter when I only used single spring per axis, though.

 

Disclaimer: this is not officially supported by VKB using their current iteration of the all-metal gimbal in either the Glad Pro or the Mamba MkIII. :)

 

Thanks for the info. It's nice having a forum member that can communicate directly to VKB.

 

I had mine double sprung for a time. I removed the second set recently due to the one case where it supposedly caused damage. I'm starting to doubt extra springs were actually the cause of that issue though.

 

The space is a bit limited to fit double spring. Is there a chance VKB could let us know what the various spring constants are so I could source a slightly higher single spring?

[Sokol1_br]

I wonder if the Gunfighter Pro with the extension will also handle the Warthog adapter and grip...

 

Gunfighter gimbal was projected taking Warthog grip weight in account (serves as measure for future VKB metal grips), why is more reinforced relative to Gladiator PRO, has this "brake-damper" - "W" CAM profile for balance the out of CG Warthog grip - helped by curved extension, possibility to add 2 springs per axis by one in the "Quest of Feel Simulator"... :)

 

Seems will be the best option possible to fit a Wart' grip. Superior to Tm original gimbal + this "add hoc" straight extensions available. :joystick:

 

Is just question of "when". :D

Edited December 29, 2016 by Sokol1_br

[SinusoidDelta]

Gunfighter gimbal was projected taking Warthog grip weight in account (serves for measure fo future VKB metal grips), why is more reinforced relative to Gladiator PRO, has this "brake-damper" - "W" CAM profile for balance the out of CG Warthog grip - helped by curved extension, possibility to add 2 springs per axis by one in the "Quest of Feel Simulator"... :)

 

Seems will be the best option possible to fit a Wart' grip. Superior to Tm original gimbal + this "add hoc" straight extensions available. :joystick:

 

Is just question of "when". :D

 

That's definitely good news for those who'll purchase the gunfighter. Could you explain what you mean by brake damper?

Edited December 29, 2016 by SinusoidDelta

[cichlidfan]

This is good news. The only downside is that, at this rate, I am going to need to build someplace just to store all of the joysticks that I own, and I have sold two in recent years. ;)

[Thadiun Okona]

That's definitely good news for those who'll purchase the gunfighter. Could you explain what you mean by brake damper?

 

The new damping mechanism is a variation of a 'band brake' from an anatomical description, which relies on damping grease and controlled tension.

[SinusoidDelta]

Interesting! That's a very clever solution I hadn't considered. Hats off to VKB, truly top notch engineering.

[dburne]

Gunfighter gimbal was projected taking Warthog grip weight in account (serves as measure for future VKB metal grips), why is more reinforced relative to Gladiator PRO, has this "brake-damper" - "W" CAM profile for balance the out of CG Warthog grip - helped by curved extension, possibility to add 2 springs per axis by one in the "Quest of Feel Simulator"... :)

 

Seems will be the best option possible to fit a Wart' grip. Superior to Tm original gimbal + this "add hoc" straight extensions available. :joystick:

 

Is just question of "when". :D

 

Good to know the possibility is there, thanks for the info!

[Kailorn]

Anyone knows if there is still planned a Cobra M5 adaptor for a gladiator pro?

 

I remember reading that cobra M5, warthog and cougar would be produced but so far there is only an adaptor for the warthog...

[Hermit713]

if the gunfighter only had ffb, it would be stick of all sticks of all times.

i loved the two spring concept of my ch fighterstick, so im sure this concept coupled with the cam profile will feel awesome. remains to be seen whether it can beat the old msffb2.

 

Yes... Good force feedback would be really great, if added to the current crop of VKB's.

[Sokol1_br]

Illusion dream with Force Feedback sticks from small manufacturers, no one has the big money needed to pay Immersion and Microsoft licences for commercialize one.

[rrohde]

Anyone knows if there is still planned a Cobra M5 adaptor for a gladiator pro?

 

I remember reading that cobra M5, warthog and cougar would be produced but so far there is only an adaptor for the warthog...

 

Still planned. I know that there are plans for the Gunfighter to support the Cobra/Mamba grip. Not sure what the ETA is, however.

[Kailorn]

Thanks rrohde, much appreciated

[Sokol1_br]

For one in "restoftheworld" or Europeans other option for buy Gladiator "vanila" and PRO: Taobao.

 

https://vkb-sim.world.taobao.com/?spm=a312a.7700824.0.0.Qg04ZC

 

This site require a "Taobao agent" service, eg. http://www.yoybuy.com/en/

[Rangi]

For one in "restoftheworld" or Europeans other option for buy Gladiator "vanila" and PRO: Taobao.

 

https://vkb-sim.world.taobao.com/?spm=a312a.7700824.0.0.Qg04ZC

 

This site require a "Taobao agent" service, eg. http://www.yoybuy.com/en/

 

I hope they put the gunfighter up for sale there.

[Barefoot Bandit]

Yup - will be good for us Aussies - cheaper shipping...

 

Z...

[raresb]

Ravcore Javelin shorten course

 

As the title says I have a problem with my Ravcore Javelin which is as I understood the european VKB Gladiator joystick. So, the problem is that when I pull hard on aft Y axis, its course become short by 25% and I have to pull harder to have it used on its maximum course. It happens for all axis but the error is mostly worst for Y aft axis. Also, if I reset joystick by plug out, plug in or from its application, it is working good until I pull again.Everytime I pull a little harder, its course is shrinking.Anyone with a solution?

[Sokol1_br]

"RIP" Gladiator.

 

Gladiator Mk.II: this very successful product is completely sold out. The product has been designed and produced in collaboration with our partners. This joint project is ended and there is no plans anymore for any production run for this product under VKB control and VKB-Sim brand.

 

VKB is busy with new midprice-range product for Gladiator Mk.II replacement which should include new features never been used earlier in joysticks of this price level. Quality standards should also exceed expectations for this type of joysticks. However, this product is in early design phase. We aim to have it ready by the end of the year but it is difficult to predict how much time it will take to hit the market. There are always some challenges to face like with any other innovative product.

 

Gladiator Mk.II Pro: there is a limited stock at the moment. We plan to maintain the stock with some extra production batch but as this product is based on discontinued Gladiator joystick, the stock will not last long. MCG version is also expected.

 

From flightsimcontrols.com (VKB EU).

 

Curious in know what is the "midprice-range" of joystick market... :unsure:

Edited February 18, 2018 by Sokol1_br

[AeroGator]

Although this product is fully sold out in Europe we still have some (quite limited) stock of Gladiator non-PRO in China.

Not many though.

 

Sales of the Gladiators non-PRO will stop when we sell them all out.

 

Gladiators PRO are now out of stock but we will still make the farewell batch in late March.

After this batch is sold out, it will be officially done.

 

The replacement, preliminarily called Gladiator NG (for New Generation), is in design stage. It's too early to talk about the time it will be marketed.

[rrohde]

Thanks for keeping everybody in the loop with official VKB HQ news, Aero! :)

[BlacleyCole]

Suggestion for the next model from a owner of a non pro gladiator. Take and make the throttle lever larger and angled out for those with bad fat fingers to easily find without looking or with a hmd

[Sokol1_br]

Suggestion for the next model from a owner of a non pro gladiator. Take and make the throttle lever larger and angled out for those with bad fat fingers to easily find without looking or with a hmd

 

Seems Gladiator replacement will be based on this base (mock-up of Gladiator model that don't reach production):

 

http://forum.il2sturmovik.ru/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-15866-0-02340300-1427339919.jpg

 

No info about grip design, but with Gladiator 'demise' probable not an KG-12A.

[Seb71]

While that extended Gladiator base looks nice, I hope they won't go with that (or anything similar). The throttle and stick really need to be separate devices. And each should be usable on its own (so without requiring the other).